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    Paterno's son claimed to have reported this to his supervisor.


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    Why mention they are adopted? It's like saying "a black guy cut me off in traffic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-docious View Post
    penn state should not have a football program.
    What happened was terrible, but the people associated with it have been punished, are in the process or being punished or are dead. The current players and coaches had nothing to do with what happened and the problem is not ongoing within the program so at some point you have to take the focus off the football program and focus it on the scumbags who let it happen.

    Should our current basketball players all be viewed as cheaters because in the past some players had papers written for them? To many people want to blame entire programs for the actions of a few individuals. Even the whole Sandusky thing, anyone who knew what was going on deserves every punishment that can be thrown at them, but clearly it was limited to a fairly small circle of people. So should Lavar Arrington and every other player that played for Sandusky also be considered a pedophile based on his actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNVCGUY View Post
    What happened was terrible, but the people associated with it have been punished, are in the process or being punished or are dead. The current players and coaches had nothing to do with what happened and the problem is not ongoing within the program so at some point you have to take the focus off the football program and focus it on the scumbags who let it happen.

    Should our current basketball players all be viewed as cheaters because in the past some players had papers written for them? To many people want to blame entire programs for the actions of a few individuals. Even the whole Sandusky thing, anyone who knew what was going on deserves every punishment that can be thrown at them, but clearly it was limited to a fairly small circle of people. So should Lavar Arrington and every other player that played for Sandusky also be considered a pedophile based on his actions?
    In fairness I think if the "1990s Minnesota Basketball scandal" or the "Fab 4 Michigan scandal" happened today titles would not be vacated.
    Now living in Coon Rapids

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    What I mean is in similar "scandals" today (Ohio State and the tattoos) they don't take away titles anymore. My opinion.
    Now living in Coon Rapids

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    I'd like to know the real story on Sandusky and Paterno some day. It seems clear that Paterno knew something was way out of kilter with Sandusky, which would explain his sudden departure from the DC position at a time when Penn State had great defenses and was riding high. Sandusky was not that old when he suddenly left the staff.

    Considering that Sandusky was pushed out, who decided that it would be a good thing to allow him unfettered access to the campus athletic facilities and allow his "charity" to glom on to the football program to further his true avocation, finding young victims?

    Was this all lazy, inattentive behavior by Paterno and the program, or was it more? I still disagree with the "they should have been given the death penalty" view of this, as much as I cannot understand how they let this guy hang out in the showers, or even be on campus. A lot of people had to have known how evil Sandusky was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-docious View Post
    penn state should not have a football program.
    totally agree...always have since this broke several years ago. It's so absolutely ridiculous that the penn st fans believe there is nothing to this...ignorance is bliss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harley_gopher View Post
    totally agree...always have since this broke several years ago. It's so absolutely ridiculous that the penn st fans believe there is nothing to this...ignorance is bliss.
    I am sure you can find a small very vocal part of the fanbase that thinks there is nothing wrong with went on but I also bet if you surveyed the 100,000+ fans there on gameday you would find the overwhelming majority do not support or condone what happened.

    I guess I just can't see how supporting the current team and current players is in any way saying that you are totally ok with what happened in the past and that you totally condone the actions of a really sick individual. Again, what happened under Paterno/Sandusky was awful but the current administration and players didn't have anything to do with that so not sure why they should be punished too.

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