I know it's the B1G, but a 6 team league?
I almost think the B1G should lose it's automatic berth in the tournament. The WCHA was so much deeper and harder to win. I really get no sense of pride in winning the B1G in hockey. It's basically us vs. Wisconsin.
I agree that the WCHA was better than the current B1G but we add Notre Dame next year, a decent team. We have 4 of the 6 ranked in the top 18 and Notre Dame is also ranked. The B1G will get better and hopefully expand more but I agree that now the WCHA is better.
You're forgetting we're Gopher fans who are forever cursed. Any setup that allows us 4 straight titles is a good thing that shouldn't be changed...
Originally Posted by Otis
That said, I miss the WCHA and I hate the Big Ten Conference.
But not as much as I hate listening to Clymer.
I like Clymer
Originally Posted by Sparlimb
ok? It's going to be the Gophers vs whoever is good that year. It is what it is. Keep in mind Ohio State beat Denver this year, the Gophers and Spartans beat UND, and the conference is number 2 in win % in interconference record with the only losing record vs the NCHC (which the Gophers had a big hand in losing twice to St Cloud and to UMD). The conference is improving and will get better due to the resources. Yes I agree that the old WCHA was better, but this is college hockey now and I'd rather make the best of it than bitch about the old days.
Originally Posted by Otis
IMO they need to get to 8 teams pronto. Notre Dame is a good add, hopefully another existing B1G school will step up and get it done. Penn State was able to build a solid program in figuratively no time, I imagine if an Illinois or Rutgers or Maryland had a cash infusion and the will to do it they could as well.
Once you're at eight, you don't need the majority of your conference to have great years to feel like it's competitive. IMO, the conference needs at least three top teams every year to make it feel like a major player. To date, it has usually been one or two, and it'd be that much easier with the addition of two cash-healthy programs.
I still feel that if they can make an exception for Notre Dame and their politically incorrect leprechaun, they should be able to make room for The North Dakota Fighting Sioux!
Originally Posted by Gopher07
Lol no. Just no. I'll stick with scheduling them for a home and home.
Originally Posted by Otis
B1G Conf Members through history
23 Natl Titles and 64 Frozen Fours.
Michigan = 9 Titles and 24 Frozen Fours
Minnesota = 5 Titles and 21 Frozen Fours
Wisconsin = 6 Titles and 9 Frozen Fours
Michigan St = 3 Titles and 9 Frozen Fours
Ohio St = 0 Titles and 1 Frozen Four
Penn St = 0 Titles.
And with as well as OSU is playing this year, and with how quickly PSU has built up a winning program, even with just 6 teams, the B1G is a very formidable league.
There is an outside shot of 4 B1G teams out of 6 getting into the tourney this season.
But I do agree that another 2 teams would help a lot towards making it easier for 3 or 4 teams to regularly get into the tourney.
Was the WCHA of old kick arse? Totally. And I probably preferred it, but honestly, change was bound to happen and for the growth of college hockey, were almost required, and that growth could only really have happened with big money schools, like B1G schools, and since PSU started up, we've since got Arizona St started up now, but are schools with the funds to fully support hockey, and with what we see having happened as quickly as it has with PSU, other schools like Arizona St may be encouraged to follow suit.
But one problem that the formation of the B1G solved, is that there were seasons when really good WCHA teams got left out of the tourney because there were just too many good WCHA teams and they beat each other up.
So what the creation of the B1G conf did, along with the end of the CCHA and the creation of the NCHC, is it effectively spread out the wealth of the former WCHA into 3 different conferences, the B1G, the NCHC and the now weakened WCHA.
But I know that few chk fans care about that, they are pissed about the storied rivalries that no longer get played each and every season. I understand this. So the conference matchups may have suffered, but the end of season NCAA tournament fields should be stronger because of this.
And the only teams I can see that would work in the B1G conf, right now, would be Notre Dame unfortunately. I hate the idea of ND joining the B1G, but under the circumstances I guess it is the only option. After ND, I honestly think Arizona St might work the best? Unless a school like Illinois somehow comes up with the cash to give it a go, but I just don't see it happening.
So there are so many of you out there who hate the B1G and loved the old WCHA, well, that is the way of the world, things have to evolve and change over time, adapt or they won't survive in the long term, and I personally think that the B1G was the best thing that could have happened to college hockey, and I hope I'm not wrong because its something that we are stuck with now.
take this with a grain of salt, but hearing rumblings that BIG money talks, and it is currently talking to the North Dakota Fighting Hawks to join in 2018.
IF it happens, i might actually be a fan of the BIG hockey conference.
UND would love nothing more than to come into our new conference which was supposed to faze them put and win it. Would be very interesting to say the least.
Adding UND and UMD would be awesome!
I am hearing UND is priority numero uno, with duluth being a fall back option.
I've never been a fan of the idea of UND to the Big Ten, but I am starting to warm to the idea. After the WCHA changed, I really liked the NCHC. It has been a great conference, with plenty of competition. I think there were a lot of jokes being thrown towards the Big Ten because of a few of the perennial powers have a down year or two (Not bad years, but certainly not as dominant as we are used to). We all knew that those teams were going to bounce back. MN is way too historic of a program to not be dominant (playing very well this year). Wisconsin needed to drop Eaves (they are on the right track). Michigan had a great season last year, but lost a lot of talent.
If UND does make the move, I just hope we continue to schedule annual non-conference games with Denver, and possibly SCSU or Duluth (maybe alternating years). If UND can keep a few of those rivalry games, and add some of their bigger rivals (MN and WI) in conference games, I would probably enjoy seeing UND in the Big Ten.
Not sure if this offer will actually happen, but UND would certainly have to look at the offer if it does. The move could certainly benefit everyone involved. UND would bring a hockey program that is consistently strong, and top notch facilities. The Big Ten would align UND with some big strong schools, which is never a bad thing. Especially if UND gets some additional revenue from the Big Ten. I like the NCHC, but if we made the move to Big Ten, I'd hardly be upset. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Question for gopher fans, when your games are not broadcast on Big Ten Network or Fox Sports North, are all other games available on the Big Ten App? I assume that is available on Roku?
We currently get some games on CBS Sports or Fox College Sports, but all other games are on the NCHC app, which has been awesome. I would assume there would be no step back in terms of streaming capability in the Big Ten.