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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherHomer View Post
    I'm not saying he is completely void of relevant content, but Prager is a typical extremist, right-wing talk show host. Not sure he is who we should be taking our gospel from. He criticized Ellison for taking his congressional oath on the Quran...pretty much disqualifies him in my book. This guy is no better than the extreme left-wing feminists that claim heterosexual sex cannot be consensual.
    Did you listen and what do you know about his guest, Stuart Taylor? Here's another resource that is not considered right wing...https://www.thefire.org/


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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherHomer View Post
    I'm not saying he is completely void of relevant content, but Prager is a typical extremist, right-wing talk show host. Not sure he is who we should be taking our gospel from. He criticized Ellison for taking his congressional oath on the Quran...pretty much disqualifies him in my book. This guy is no better than the extreme left-wing feminists that claim heterosexual sex cannot be consensual.
    Well you sound really unbiased... NOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillmeNow View Post
    Well you sound really unbiased... NOT
    Clever. You had me going until that last word.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherHomer View Post
    I'm not saying he is completely void of relevant content, but Prager is a typical extremist, right-wing talk show host. Not sure he is who we should be taking our gospel from. He criticized Ellison for taking his congressional oath on the Quran...pretty much disqualifies him in my book. This guy is no better than the extreme left-wing feminists that claim heterosexual sex cannot be consensual.
    I share your opinion of Prager. It's what Stuart Taylor says that needs to be listened to. Incidently, he says he voted for Obama twice, as did I.

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    Former Gov Arne Carlson on Barrerio today. Didn't speak too fondly of the U Admin or the EOAA investigation here. You can podcast it on KFAN if interested. Talks about that in the final 5 min of the interview.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    Former Gov Arne Carlson on Barrerio today. Didn't speak too fondly of the U Admin or the EOAA investigation here. You can podcast it on KFAN if interested. Talks about that in the final 5 min of the interview.


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    Did he have any inside knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    Did he have any inside knowledge?
    Not really. Very frontal about the Admin and how poorly K and C handled it. Said 40% falsely accused proves the system is broken. Said he hopes the U gets new leadership as it needs it badly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    Not really. Very frontal about the Admin and how poorly K and C handled it. Said 40% falsely accused proves the system is broken. Said he hopes the U gets new leadership as it needs it badly.


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    Ah, well yeah he's right.

    Just farm it out to a law firm or something, at least the structure and systems, staffing recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherHomer View Post
    I'm not saying he is completely void of relevant content, but Prager is a typical extremist, right-wing talk show host. Not sure he is who we should be taking our gospel from. He criticized Ellison for taking his congressional oath on the Quran...pretty much disqualifies him in my book. This guy is no better than the extreme left-wing feminists that claim heterosexual sex cannot be consensual.
    I'm not going to argue with you on Prager, but sometimes "extremists" are the only ones that can politically discuss difficult issues. It wasn't that long ago that left wing "extremists" were talking about legalizing marijuana and gay marriage. It was "extremists" that called for the abolition of slavery and "extremists" who wanted to afford women the right to vote. The truth is, a lot of difficult issues are really politically difficult for moderates.

    The regressive left demanded Tracy Claeys be fired for his tweet (which whether you agree with it or not, wasn't that crazy). There were some loons that wanted to get rid of football because of the incident. My point, a lot of dems are in an impossible position where they can't criticize things like the EoAA. For me, it seems super similar to how a lot of political conservatives have to kiss the ring of the religious right. The political bedfellows can force moderates to be silent on "tough" issues.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for any extremists to ever have any real power. They aren't capable of handling it, even when they have good intentions (see the EoAA). I'm just saying that they are sometimes free from the political chains that force moderates into particular corners.

    I'm not saying you should like Prager, but I wouldn't dismiss the information from the guest based on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherHomer View Post
    Prager is a typical extremist, right-wing talk show host.
    Prager is hardly an extremist (he's a mainstream conservative). Tossing out adjectives like that on someone like Prager completely dilutes the word when you'd use it for someone really extreme like an Alex Jones type host. Language is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan View Post
    Prager is hardly an extremist (he's a mainstream conservative). Tossing out adjectives like that on someone like Prager completely dilutes the word when you'd use it for someone really extreme like an Alex Jones type host. Language is important.
    Meh, I think Prager is kind of out there with his religious stuff. Maybe "extremist" is a bad word, but he is to neocons what the Young Turks are to progressives.

    Alex Jones. . .it was hard to even call him political until now. He is a 9/11 Truther, he thinks Sandy Hook was staged (all actors), he thinks the government is making kids homosexual using chemicals in juice boxes, he screamed at everyone for years to stock up for Y2K, he is an absolute loon.

    So your point is taken, Prager is no Alex Jones.

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    Did we ever hear if anyone chose to do the next round of appeals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    Did we ever hear if anyone chose to do the next round of appeals?
    No Clue. Can't one see if kids are enrolled in school? If they were still enrolled you would think that means an appeal is in process. Seems odd that Hutton wouldn't have broadcasted that like everything else tho.

    FWIW: Djam, Williams, and Hardin still listed on roster. Buford, Johnson x2 not. I know those 3 transferred out, but curious that Hardin is still listed if officially expelled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    No Clue. Can't one see if kids are enrolled in school? If they were still enrolled you would think that means an appeal is in process. Seems odd that Hutton wouldn't have broadcasted that like everything else tho.

    FWIW: Djam, Williams, and Hardin still listed on roster. Buford, Johnson x2 not. I know those 3 transferred out, but curious that Hardin is still listed if officially expelled.


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    Here's an updated version of the scholarship spreadsheet from 247. Goblirsch said he doesn't expect any of the 4 who were expelled to challenge that decision any further, so they were removed from the list. Djam and Williams are listed as suspensions. Hardin is still listed on the roster at gophersports.com but that's more likely due to the fact that he hasn't announced what his plans are yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    Not really. Very frontal about the Admin and how poorly K and C handled it. Said 40% falsely accused proves the system is broken. Said he hopes the U gets new leadership as it needs it badly.


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    Finally had a chance to listen to the interview. He did not pull any punches. Along with what you pointed out, Carlson said the administration repeatedly lied to the public, players, and Claeys specifically. Carlson has not been a fan of Kaler for several years and has a long connection in MN politics with Dean Johnson.

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