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Wow, Fleck.

Can't wait to see what he can do with a year until his belt.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
2009: 5th in Mac 94th Nationally
2010: 4th in Mac 96th Nationally
2011: 2nd in Mac 82nd Nationally
2012: 5th in Mac 95th Nationally

Fleck Era
2013: 7th in Mac 112th Nationally
2014: 1st in Mac 71st Nationally
2015: 1st in Mac 76th Nationally
2016: 1st in Mac 71st Nationally

So now I've proven that your facts aren't facts your entire point about recruiting has been proven false. I'm not sure where you got that the previous regime before him at WMU had some great classes but you're wrong.

The Gophers have good returning talent at Linebacker and Running Back that's about it. The more you say that the team has some great returning talent all around the field is just blatantly false. The D-line, O-Line, Tight End should all be decent and shouldn't hold the team back. The other positions are huge question marks unless the previous coaches failed to properly use Quarterbacks and Wide Receivers talents.
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Not sure your source, I prefer Rivals.

WMU under Cubit Nat'l class ranks

2008 - #65
2010 - #38
2011 - #58
2012 - #47

WMU under Fleck Nat'l Class ranks

2014 - #62
2015 - #78
2016 - #64

Three of four Cubit's last recruiting classes ranked higher nationally than any of Fleck's. Like I said...go look.
 

kisarazu said:
Where are you sources? The data seems to be against you.



Additional data from 247, Wikipedia, and the theredzone.org.
Year Natl, MAC, AVG, Attend, record, following draft

2005 88, 3, .7684, 18,906, 7-4, 2
2006 91, 8, .7705, ??????, 8-5, 0
2007 100, 6, .7591,??????, 5-7, 0
2008 96, 4, .7799, ??????, 9-4, 2
2009 94, 5, .7803, ??????, 5-7, 0
2010 96, 4, .7944, ??????, 6-6, 0
2011 82, 2, .7656, 20,330, 7-6, 2
2012 95, 5, .7570, 14,678, 4-8, 0

2013 112, 7,.7703, 17,347, 1-11, 0
2014 71, 1, .7990, 15,625, 8-5, 0
2015 76, 1, .8040, 19,441, 8-5, 2
2016 71, 1, .8154, 23,838, 13-1, 2?

Also, Fleck's 2017 WMU class was likely going to surpass his 2016.
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Rivals.
 

PMWinSTP said:
Not sure your source, I prefer Rivals.

WMU under Cubit Nat'l class ranks

2008 - #65
2010 - #38
2011 - #58
2012 - #47

WMU under Fleck Nat'l Class ranks

2014 - #62
2015 - #78
2016 - #64

Three of four Cubit's last recruiting classes ranked higher nationally than any of Fleck's. Like I said...go look.
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247 which takes all recruiting sites grades and averages them good try though. Also Rivals rankings make no sense they have teams below Western with higher average and more recruits.
 





Johnnyboy18 said:
247 which takes all recruiting sites grades and averages them good try though. Also Rivals rankings make no sense they have teams below Western with higher average and more recruits.
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It's been doing this for a long time and has been very accurate in hindsight. Your second comment doesn't make a lot of sense...a quick look at the individual ratings explains it. Details.
 







PMWinSTP said:
I already did...responding to you two posts ago. Should be really easy to do, but I understand...not so much for you.
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No you didn't you said a quick look at the individual rankings explain it but they had 6 three stars and the others had 15+ and 4+ 4 star commits. Like I said either a glitch or garbage rankings.
 



Johnnyboy18 said:
No you didn't you said a quick look at the individual rankings explain it but they had 6 three stars and the others had 15+ and 4+ 4 star commits. Like I said either a glitch or garbage rankings.
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Umm, I said individual ratings, not "stars". There's a difference. Details. Wow.
 

Hey guys. This argument belongs in the 2017 recruiting thread. Not here.


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Spoofin said:
Hey guys. This argument belongs in the 2017 recruiting thread. Not here.


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Sorry...it's basically going on in both threads with this genius.
 

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