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    Quote Originally Posted by hungan1 View Post
    I am wondering about the same thing. I thought this was going to be a small class. The only thing that I can think of is someone is voluntarily giving up their scholarship. Is that even possible?

    Futhermore, This class have no 4-Star commits. Does PJ Fleck have difficulty landing 4-Star recruits and is looking at 3-Star at developmental/hidden gem players instead?

    Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, and Wisconsin all have at least 1 4-Star commits, and their average rating is 86 or higher. The Gophers are at 84.78 average rating. That is last place for B1G West for average ratings. Should we start to be concerned?

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...erence=Big-Ten
    I'm going to predict a minimum of two of them get bumped to a 4 star. Many of them have not been seen much by rivals.

    I would rather get ones with a ton of offers. We have not seen recruiting like this with all the offers in forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hungan1 View Post
    I am wondering about the same thing. I thought this was going to be a small class. The only thing that I can think of is someone is voluntarily giving up their scholarship. Is that even possible?

    Futhermore, This class have no 4-Star commits. Does PJ Fleck have difficulty landing 4-Star recruits and is looking at 3-Star at developmental/hidden gem players instead?

    Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, and Wisconsin all have at least 1 4-Star commits, and their average rating is 86 or higher. The Gophers are at 84.78 average rating. That is last place for B1G West for average ratings. Should we start to be concerned?

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...erence=Big-Ten
    It's actually currently last in the B1G overall. I'm confident Rutgers will bring up the rear in the end, but Gophs were 9th last year in average rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    We’re better than Florida St. Probably would take him longer to start here.
    If you base on it on the win-loss records for 2018, that’s true, but they have a lot more talent in their roster. They already have eight 4-star commits for 2020 (with an overall average rating of .9071) How many do we have? He probably has a better chance of starting here.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention two of those 2020 4-stars are also OLBs. And...there are also two 4-star OLBs in the 2019 class. Do you still think he’d have a a better chance of starting there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hungan1 View Post
    I am wondering about the same thing. I thought this was going to be a small class. The only thing that I can think of is someone is voluntarily giving up their scholarship. Is that even possible?

    Futhermore, This class have no 4-Star commits. Does PJ Fleck have difficulty landing 4-Star recruits and is looking at 3-Star at developmental/hidden gem players instead?

    Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, and Wisconsin all have at least 1 4-Star commits, and their average rating is 86 or higher. The Gophers are at 84.78 average rating. That is last place for B1G West for average ratings. Should we start to be concerned?

    Nebraska 93.76 Avg Rating, 70.70 Pts, 3 commits
    Wisconsin 88.09 Avg Rating, 146.6 Pts, 9 commits
    Illinois 87.55 Avg Rating, 52.18 Pts, 3 commits
    Purdue 87.04 Avg Rating, 82.53 Pts, 5 commits
    Iowa 87.03 Avg Rating, 172.55 Pts, 13 commits
    Northwestern 86.22 Avg Rating, 168.66 Pts, 13 commits
    Minnesota 84.78 Avg Rating, 161.22 Pts, 15 commits

    IMHO, I'd like to see and Average Rating of 86, and 200 Points.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...erence=Big-Ten
    Not to nitpick and I do understand the overall point you are making but Ky Thomas is a 4 star recruit by 247. He is a composite 3 star but 247 gave him a 4 star rating. If he has a good senior year he is a near sure lock to be a consensus 4 star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMWinSTP View Post
    Yes, and that put them right at 85, if my numbers are correct. A class of 22 means they will need to clear 7 more scholarships in addition to the 12 they will get from the seniors. Attrition from RS juniors graduating will open some...
    Don’t worry. I’m pretty confident it will work out.


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    Victor Pless Commits
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungan1 View Post
    I am wondering about the same thing. I thought this was going to be a small class. The only thing that I can think of is someone is voluntarily giving up their scholarship. Is that even possible?

    Futhermore, This class have no 4-Star commits. Does PJ Fleck have difficulty landing 4-Star recruits and is looking at 3-Star at developmental/hidden gem players instead?

    Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, and Wisconsin all have at least 1 4-Star commits, and their average rating is 86 or higher. The Gophers are at 84.78 average rating. That is last place for B1G West for average ratings. Should we start to be concerned?

    Nebraska 93.76 Avg Rating, 70.70 Pts, 3 commits
    Wisconsin 88.09 Avg Rating, 146.6 Pts, 9 commits
    Illinois 87.55 Avg Rating, 52.18 Pts, 3 commits
    Purdue 87.04 Avg Rating, 82.53 Pts, 5 commits
    Iowa 87.03 Avg Rating, 172.55 Pts, 13 commits
    Northwestern 86.22 Avg Rating, 168.66 Pts, 13 commits
    Minnesota 84.78 Avg Rating, 161.22 Pts, 15 commits

    IMHO, I'd like to see and Average Rating of 86, and 200 Points.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...erence=Big-Ten
    Don't agree with the bold.

    2018 had composite 4* with Faalele, Dunlap, Bateman. Plus Reigelsperger, Terell Smith, and Viramontes (lol) on ESPN
    2019 Nubin was a 4 star on 247 and rivals. Clark on rivals. Cheney, Schad, and Adim-Madumere on ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparlimb View Post
    Victor Pless Commits
    Offers from Indiana, Louisville, West Virginia, Syracuse, Boston College, Oregon State

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    Don’t worry. I’m pretty confident it will work out.


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    Seems like it always does. Need to trust the coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungan1 View Post
    I am wondering about the same thing. I thought this was going to be a small class. The only thing that I can think of is someone is voluntarily giving up their scholarship. Is that even possible?

    Futhermore, This class have no 4-Star commits. Does PJ Fleck have difficulty landing 4-Star recruits and is looking at 3-Star at developmental/hidden gem players instead?

    Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, and Wisconsin all have at least 1 4-Star commits, and their average rating is 86 or higher. The Gophers are at 84.78 average rating. That is last place for B1G West for average ratings. Should we start to be concerned?

    Nebraska 93.76 Avg Rating, 70.70 Pts, 3 commits
    Wisconsin 88.09 Avg Rating, 146.6 Pts, 9 commits
    Illinois 87.55 Avg Rating, 52.18 Pts, 3 commits
    Purdue 87.04 Avg Rating, 82.53 Pts, 5 commits
    Iowa 87.03 Avg Rating, 172.55 Pts, 13 commits
    Northwestern 86.22 Avg Rating, 168.66 Pts, 13 commits
    Minnesota 84.78 Avg Rating, 161.22 Pts, 15 commits

    IMHO, I'd like to see and Average Rating of 86, and 200 Points.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...erence=Big-Ten
    Time will tell, on paper it doesn't have look as strong as the last two classes, but I see a lot of very athletic and versatile players in this class. I'm guessing it doesn't typically help a players rating when they are playing out of position or many different positions than the one the college coaches envision for them. It seems like a lot of the players in this class fit that bill. Also interesting is how our lowest rated recruit has possibly the best offer list.
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    I'm really not concerned. It's not like this is late January and we're trying to fill a class. These are guys the staff has seen, either in camps or in action last fall, and wanted, offered, and accepted committment. Good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Grimey Grimes View Post
    Not to nitpick and I do understand the overall point you are making but Ky Thomas is a 4 star recruit by 247. He is a composite 3 star but 247 gave him a 4 star rating. If he has a good senior year he is a near sure lock to be a consensus 4 star.
    Yes but there are players on other teams in the same situation...you have to pick a way to compare team to team, and 247 composite is the most even way to do so.

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    Winfield (along with Coughlin) and Johnson are arguably the best defensive and offensive players on the team, and they both fit the profiles of most of these recruits....3 stars with a handful of decent offers. Last season’s best player, Blake Cashman, didn’t even have a rating.

    This program hasn’t done enough to bring in classes near the top of the Big Ten (or the middle, tbh), and when recruits show up on game day, there are a bunch of empty seats. The staff just needs to do a better job than other teams at identifying players with the traits they’re looking for, and getting the most out of those players. So far, it looks like they know what they’re doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PitinoFan View Post
    This program hasn’t done enough to bring in classes near the top of the Big Ten (or the middle, tbh), and when recruits show up on game day, there are a bunch of empty seats. The staff just needs to do a better job than other teams at identifying players with the traits they’re looking for, and getting the most out of those players. So far, it looks like they know what they’re doing.

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    A very reasonable viewpoint.
    Pretty much how it has always been here.
    Results matter, rankings don’t. When in 3-star land it is all about identifying those with the right traits and fit for your team.


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