STrib: Author on Gophers sexual assault case: 'We've never seen this kind of thing'

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per Rand Ball:

Also familiar has been the lack of understanding of the distinction between a criminal investigation — one that resulted in no charges being filed by the Hennepin County Attorney’s office — and the University investigation that led to the 10 players being suspended.

The evidence needed by the attorney's office is a higher bar than the evidence needed by the EOAA. In criminal court, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt." On campus, school officials must decide if it was "more likely than not" that an assault occurred.

“People conflate not having charges filed and not guilty. In this kind of case, most people are not comfortable with the grey of it. We will never know guilt or non-guilt through a court of law. That's hard for us. We want an outcome. But that there is a parallel process that looks similar but is very different that plays out on the campus,” Luther said. “The EOAA is trying to decide if (the person) is safe enough to be on their campus. That's much different than whether they will spend time in prison. That's not to say it doesn’t have an impact on lives, but it's fundamentally different. The EOAA is looking for a preponderance of evidence. That's an important distinction, and I think people have a hard time with that.”

http://www.startribune.com/author-o...weve-never-seen-this-kind-of-thing/407111536/

Go Gophers!!
 

per Rand Ball:

Also familiar has been the lack of understanding of the distinction between a criminal investigation — one that resulted in no charges being filed by the Hennepin County Attorney’s office — and the University investigation that led to the 10 players being suspended.

The evidence needed by the attorney's office is a higher bar than the evidence needed by the EOAA. In criminal court, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt." On campus, school officials must decide if it was "more likely than not" that an assault occurred.

“People conflate not having charges filed and not guilty. In this kind of case, most people are not comfortable with the grey of it. We will never know guilt or non-guilt through a court of law. That's hard for us. We want an outcome. But that there is a parallel process that looks similar but is very different that plays out on the campus,” Luther said. “The EOAA is trying to decide if (the person) is safe enough to be on their campus. That's much different than whether they will spend time in prison. That's not to say it doesn’t have an impact on lives, but it's fundamentally different. The EOAA is looking for a preponderance of evidence. That's an important distinction, and I think people have a hard time with that.”

http://www.startribune.com/author-o...weve-never-seen-this-kind-of-thing/407111536/

Go Gophers!!
EEOA committees have no legal jurisdiction and should have no involvement in criminal cases, for which they have little training - which is why they are being sued frequently by innocent parties. A clear line should be drawn between criminal and non-criminal infractions with civil authorities only having jurisdiction in criminal cases - where lives and careers can be ruined by false charges and assumed guilt. EEOA types are also much more likely to be ideologically bent by political correctness ideology, which creates an atmosphere not conducive to objectivity and fairness.
 

EOAA types are also much more likely to be ideologically bent by political correctness ideology, which creates an atmosphere not conducive to objectivity and fairness,". Finally someone nailed it. Obama is gone, disband the committee.
 

Did you get lost on your way to Fox news ? WTF does Obama have to do with this disgusting mess. Do you prefer the Trump " grab them by the p_ssy " atmosphere? Please read the texts between the players and the full report before you post your stupidity again. I wonder if you would feel this was exclusively PC behavior if it happened to you ?
 

Did you get lost on your way to Fox news ? WTF does Obama have to do with this disgusting mess. Do you prefer the Trump " grab them by the p_ssy " atmosphere? Please read the texts between the players and the full report before you post your stupidity again. I wonder if you would feel this was exclusively PC behavior if it happened to you ?

No kidding. What f' up thinking. Unreal some of the idiots in this world.
 


No kidding. What f' up thinking. Unreal some of the idiots in this world.

You guys are joking right? You are aware that this was one of the Administrations major initiatives? Whether you agree with it or not it is a fact.

Of course you are aware of that otherwise there would be quite a bit of irony in your comment.
 

You guys are joking right? You are aware that this was one of the Administrations major initiatives? Whether you agree with it or not it is a fact.

Of course you are aware of that otherwise there would be quite a bit of irony in your comment.
And what is the name of this initiative?
 





You do not have to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt to file charges.
You do not have to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt to be arrested.
This narrative is completely false.

It is exceptionally common (especially in situations with a large amount of people involved) to make arrests and file charges. It is a way to get people talking and looking for a deal. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. The problem - - - you need to probable cause to make an arrest and go forward with charges.

If you think that Henneppin County only makes arrests and files charges against people that have evidence (at that time!) to convict beyond a reasonable doubt is absurd. It is patently false. Do you want to get people to start talking. . .you make an arrest, you file charges, it's how this gets done, especially in cases like this.
 

Did you get lost on your way to Fox news ? WTF does Obama have to do with this disgusting mess. Do you prefer the Trump " grab them by the p_ssy " atmosphere? Please read the texts between the players and the full report before you post your stupidity again. I wonder if you would feel this was exclusively PC behavior if it happened to you ?

LOL! I agree...people are clearly misinformed.
 

Did you get lost on your way to Fox news ? WTF does Obama have to do with this disgusting mess. Do you prefer the Trump " grab them by the p_ssy " atmosphere? Please read the texts between the players and the full report before you post your stupidity again. I wonder if you would feel this was exclusively PC behavior if it happened to you ?

Real easy jerk, the EOAA was the direct result of Obama. Get with the program
 




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