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  1. #1126

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrams View Post
    And Kansas has zero players committed so far. Do you like our chances? I don't.
    I imagine they’d take Garcia, but Walton and Muscadin could be plan B or plan C type players for them.


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    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??
    This is a good perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??
    Would be hard to gain 4 commitments with 3 open schollys, but I would not have been as high on that class as I would if we sign muscadin, berry, walton

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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherBlood666 View Post
    Would be hard to gain 4 commitments with 3 open schollys, but I would not have been as high on that class as I would if we sign muscadin, berry, walton
    I know but many have said we could over sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Tubby View Post
    Can she? Call me completely unimpressed up to this point considering her pedigree as a player and local icon. That's not to say that I'm impressed with Pitino's recruiting acumen either. I thought this new Athletic Village was going to make all the difference in the world when it comes to recruiting but apparently illegal cash payments, hookers and giving parents "jobs" still rule the roost in college basketball.


    Carlson is a nice player but I couldn't care less about not landing him at this point. I'll wait to see how the rest of recruiting plays out before making a final judgement on that. As for Crowl, I would rather have him eat up a scholarship of the turds to our East for the next four (4) years than one of ours.

    Really???

    https://www.twincities.com/2019/09/1...ns-basketball/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??
    I think that would be a pretty solid class, with Mason Madsen being a questionable signing, especially after taking what appears on the surface to be a bit of a desperation signing of Greenlee at the same position in the spring. I don't mean to be unfair to Greenlee without seeing him suit up first, just saying that signing a guy with his offer list that late in the recruiting cycle makes it look like they were just trying to get a warm body to play spot minutes at point guard, and with Mason Madsen, you now arguably have two of those at the same position, what some would say is the most important position on the floor. Feels like ball handler, wing, and big man are the targets for the 3 scholarships we have, and that class would cover it with a bit of star power with Carlson in the top 100. It would actually be fairly similar to our 2019 class, with a top 100 big (Carlson/Ihnen), a top 150 guard (Gabe Madsen/Williams), a ball handler with a mid-major recruiting profile (Mason Madsen/Greenlee), and then Crowl and Freeman is probably the least adept comparison, as Crowl is ranked significantly higher, Freeman was offered by the Gophers in the summer before his senior year after a live evaluation I believe, so there seemed to be at least a bit of early confidence that he was a guy Pitino wanted, as opposed to making a late offer to any old tall guy they could find.

    I think it would be a good class that at the very least doesn't set the program back or anything. There would be some skepticism of the Mason Madsen signing. It would get a bit of undue hype due to being 4 Minnesota kids, in the same way that I thought the 2018 class was a little overhyped, as I thought Omersa and Kalscheur would be more of the type of player who doesn't become a steady, regular contributor until he's at least a junior, but Kalscheur exceeded pretty much everyone's expectations.

    And then there would likely be a few fans laser-focused on the college careers of Dainja and Garcia, using any success they have as an indictment against the coaching staff and still asking "Why can't Pitino get the best Minnesota kids?" No one would care about missing out on the out-of-staters. No one ever talks about Shamorie Ponds, Talen Horton-Tucker, Tyrese Haliburton, or Wade Baldwin even though they've all been quite good in college, or received NBA hype, and had either expressed interest in us, or weren't ranked so highly that got lured away by far more prestigious programs or anything. Marcus Zegarowski ended up scoring double figures as a freshman last year at Creighton, shot over 40% from 3, and had a nearly 2:1 assist to turnover ratio, but you're gonna see McKinley Wright brought up here 10 more times before you ever see Zegarowski's name again.

    Oh, and because the tall white guy (Michael Hurt, Joey King, Elliot Eliason, Colton Iverson) always gets an out-sized tongue-lashing from fans, Steven Crowl would become the most hated player on the team if he goes a on cold streak with his shooting, fouls a little too much, or gets beaten on defense. Then we get an 8 page long thread titled, "Should Crowl be playing D3 instead?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I know but many have said we could over sign.
    Pitino hasn't oversigned yet, so I guess I'm not expecting it. But if the pattern continues, we'll end up with at least one spare scholarship in the spring to grab a transfer of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherBlood666 View Post
    Gethro Muscadin's school

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    On the latest Talk Gopher Buckets podcast, Ryan James said that people around the program are very confident they will land either Ty Berry or Jamal Mashburn Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathClutch View Post
    On the latest Talk Gopher Buckets podcast, Ryan James said that people around the program are very confident they will land either Ty Berry or Jamal Mashburn Jr.
    I agree, the staff has really put in work with those 2, seems especially linstead has put a lot of time in with berry

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??
    This is such a hypothetical it’s almost as impossible to respond to. Of course everyone would take the 2nd group in a heartbeat. How many of those guys we actually end up with is the million dollar question. If we get 3 of them it might be the greatest class in our history.

    We also need a ball handler and doubt we would have taken both Crowl and Carlson in a 3 person class. I don’t think there is any scenario where the staff would have taken the combination of players you propose.
    Last edited by John Galt; 09-19-2019 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I asked this question in another thread but this one is more appropriate. How would Gopher fans here feel if we had filled out our class with the Madsen Bros. Crowl and Carlson, with Garcia, Walton, Muscadin, Mashburn and Berry still out there??
    Awesome question. They would have accepted Carlson at any time. Often bird in the hand is better but i am very confidant that Mashburn or Berry will be here.

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    Any chance we take both Mashburn and Berry or are we only looking to add one?

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