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    STrib: Gophers recruit Tray Jackson hopes to see big gains from fifth prep year

    When the fall semester began for students and athletes at universities across the country earlier this month, Tray Jackson could’ve been starting his college career in the Big East.

    Instead, the 6-foot-8 forward and newest Gophers recruit decided working on his strength and honing his skills another year would serve him better. After reclassifying from the 2018 to 2019 class, Jackson will be a fifth-year prep at Sunrise Christian Academy on the postgraduate team.

    Why didn’t he jump at the chance to play major Division I college basketball this year?

    “It will help me develop more leadership and give me a little time to learn the game more,” Jackson said. “Focus on the stuff I want to get better with when I get to Minnesota.”

    It was a decision Jackson made before he had a breakout AAU season with Chicago-based Meanstreets and attracted attention from a number of Power Five schools, including those wanting him to start his freshman year in 2018-19.

    “He’s really gifted and talented,” Jackson’s AAU coach Tyrone Slaughter said. “There were many schools who recruited Tray and several of them were interested in him making that leap from high school to college this year. One of the things Tray said to me when I talked to him, and I believed as a coach, was that it was something he was capable of doing.”

    Creighton, Xavier and DePaul were the main schools recruiting Jackson for 2018. The Gophers beat out Oklahoma, Seton Hall and Missouri on Monday for him to be the first member of their 2019 class.

    Still 18 years old, Jackson wanted to play AAU ball again this year. Jackson was an explosive athlete with the ball skills to play both wing and power forward, but surprisingly he only had scholarship offers from mid-major programs after his senior season at Detroit Western International.

    His list changed drastically after joining Meanstreets in the spring. Jackson was one of the breakout players early in Nike EYBL play, picking up offers from Xavier and Oklahoma before the summer. Minnesota offered him in June right before he took his first official visit to the Sooners.

    Slaughter remembers the conversation with Jackson about whether reclassifying was the right choice.

    “He wanted to get better,” Slaughter said. “He wanted to get better at different things in his game. Most importantly he talked about his desire to get stronger. He wanted to become more engrossed into the nuances of the game. When you think about a kid who is that talented and athletic, but has a willingness and foresight to stop the clock and get after it with physical growth and mental development, that says volumes about him and his insight to where he’s trying to go.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGopher View Post
    FWIW, in his latest Scoops Podcast, Doogie tempered excitement a little bit on Jackson. He said Xavier recently dropped out of their recruitment of Jackson, Doogie said he found it interesting that some media outlets reported Tray's comment that he considered Michigan State, Purdue, Oregon, etc., but Doogie went on to say that Michigan State and Oregon did not offer him. He also said Oklahoma's interest in Jackson "cooled" after they tried to get him. Doogie said: "bottom line from what I have been told is there is some potential there. This is a good start, not a great start for the Gophers 2019 recruiting class."

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    Listened to the podcast and my initial impression from Bleed's recap and Doogie's history didn't change. Doogie mentioned that Xavier backed off on Tray, where do you think he got that "info" from? Probably former podcast guest Ben Johnson. It reminds me very much of Doogie getting "scoops" from a certain ISU assistant under Hoiberg, when Rashad Vaughn chose UNLV and said coach sent out a reactionary tweet of questionable nature, Doogie replied to said tweet in a positive matter. Doogie also never fails to mention anytime Amir Coffey is brought up to "thank Fred Hoiberg for leaving ISU" as if he was a done deal to ISU (despite the fact that literally zero Minnesota kids with Minnesota offers have ever ended up at Iowa or ISU). Consider the likely source of the "scoop" and then consider if said "scoop" benefits that person in some way. He then says Oklahoma "cooled" on Tray Jackson after putting on the full court press during his visit and not getting a commitment. Tray visited OU in June and didn't commit and then scheduled visits elsewhere in the late Summer/Fall...he wasn't going to OU so they wanted him when they had him on campus and "cooled" on him when the writing was on the wall he was going elsewhere. To further state a strange double standard with Doogie, he mentioned at the end of his podcast that Robert Jones had committed to Denver, and casually mentioned that he had a Penn State offer. Now does anyone really think Robert Jones could have committed to Penn State and just decided to go to a low major? But did Doogie even mention the possibility of that offer not being real or Penn State "cooling" on him?

    I don't disagree with Doogie's conclusion that this is a good start, not a great start to the Gophers 2019 recruiting class, but he's seemingly going out of his way to make a top 100 recruit (never mentioned that fact in the podcast by the way) seem like a leftover. If you had no idea about recruiting and listened to the podcast, you would have thought David Roddy was the far superior prospect.

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    I don't know if I want Roddy at this point. Is he better than Omersa? He isn't as athletic. And he probably isn't much younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EG#9 View Post
    Listened to the podcast and my initial impression from Bleed's recap and Doogie's history didn't change. Doogie mentioned that Xavier backed off on Tray, where do you think he got that "info" from? Probably former podcast guest Ben Johnson. It reminds me very much of Doogie getting "scoops" from a certain ISU assistant under Hoiberg, when Rashad Vaughn chose UNLV and said coach sent out a reactionary tweet of questionable nature, Doogie replied to said tweet in a positive matter. Doogie also never fails to mention anytime Amir Coffey is brought up to "thank Fred Hoiberg for leaving ISU" as if he was a done deal to ISU (despite the fact that literally zero Minnesota kids with Minnesota offers have ever ended up at Iowa or ISU). Consider the likely source of the "scoop" and then consider if said "scoop" benefits that person in some way. He then says Oklahoma "cooled" on Tray Jackson after putting on the full court press during his visit and not getting a commitment. Tray visited OU in June and didn't commit and then scheduled visits elsewhere in the late Summer/Fall...he wasn't going to OU so they wanted him when they had him on campus and "cooled" on him when the writing was on the wall he was going elsewhere. To further state a strange double standard with Doogie, he mentioned at the end of his podcast that Robert Jones had committed to Denver, and casually mentioned that he had a Penn State offer. Now does anyone really think Robert Jones could have committed to Penn State and just decided to go to a low major? But did Doogie even mention the possibility of that offer not being real or Penn State "cooling" on him?

    I don't disagree with Doogie's conclusion that this is a good start, not a great start to the Gophers 2019 recruiting class, but he's seemingly going out of his way to make a top 100 recruit (never mentioned that fact in the podcast by the way) seem like a leftover. If you had no idea about recruiting and listened to the podcast, you would have thought David Roddy was the far superior prospect.
    Xavier cooled on Tray after they received there 3rd post commit at the end of August. regardless, it is weird the way Doogie stats things all the time. and annoying

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    Quote Originally Posted by EG#9 View Post
    Listened to the podcast and my initial impression from Bleed's recap and Doogie's history didn't change. Doogie mentioned that Xavier backed off on Tray, where do you think he got that "info" from? Probably former podcast guest Ben Johnson. It reminds me very much of Doogie getting "scoops" from a certain ISU assistant under Hoiberg, when Rashad Vaughn chose UNLV and said coach sent out a reactionary tweet of questionable nature, Doogie replied to said tweet in a positive matter. Doogie also never fails to mention anytime Amir Coffey is brought up to "thank Fred Hoiberg for leaving ISU" as if he was a done deal to ISU (despite the fact that literally zero Minnesota kids with Minnesota offers have ever ended up at Iowa or ISU). Consider the likely source of the "scoop" and then consider if said "scoop" benefits that person in some way. He then says Oklahoma "cooled" on Tray Jackson after putting on the full court press during his visit and not getting a commitment. Tray visited OU in June and didn't commit and then scheduled visits elsewhere in the late Summer/Fall...he wasn't going to OU so they wanted him when they had him on campus and "cooled" on him when the writing was on the wall he was going elsewhere. To further state a strange double standard with Doogie, he mentioned at the end of his podcast that Robert Jones had committed to Denver, and casually mentioned that he had a Penn State offer. Now does anyone really think Robert Jones could have committed to Penn State and just decided to go to a low major? But did Doogie even mention the possibility of that offer not being real or Penn State "cooling" on him?

    I don't disagree with Doogie's conclusion that this is a good start, not a great start to the Gophers 2019 recruiting class, but he's seemingly going out of his way to make a top 100 recruit (never mentioned that fact in the podcast by the way) seem like a leftover. If you had no idea about recruiting and listened to the podcast, you would have thought David Roddy was the far superior prospect.
    Splitting hairs over good or great start with a top 100 commit is up there in the dumber things to comment on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EG#9 View Post
    Listened to the podcast and my initial impression from Bleed's recap and Doogie's history didn't change. Doogie mentioned that Xavier backed off on Tray, where do you think he got that "info" from? Probably former podcast guest Ben Johnson. It reminds me very much of Doogie getting "scoops" from a certain ISU assistant under Hoiberg, when Rashad Vaughn chose UNLV and said coach sent out a reactionary tweet of questionable nature, Doogie replied to said tweet in a positive matter. Doogie also never fails to mention anytime Amir Coffey is brought up to "thank Fred Hoiberg for leaving ISU" as if he was a done deal to ISU (despite the fact that literally zero Minnesota kids with Minnesota offers have ever ended up at Iowa or ISU). Consider the likely source of the "scoop" and then consider if said "scoop" benefits that person in some way. He then says Oklahoma "cooled" on Tray Jackson after putting on the full court press during his visit and not getting a commitment. Tray visited OU in June and didn't commit and then scheduled visits elsewhere in the late Summer/Fall...he wasn't going to OU so they wanted him when they had him on campus and "cooled" on him when the writing was on the wall he was going elsewhere. To further state a strange double standard with Doogie, he mentioned at the end of his podcast that Robert Jones had committed to Denver, and casually mentioned that he had a Penn State offer. Now does anyone really think Robert Jones could have committed to Penn State and just decided to go to a low major? But did Doogie even mention the possibility of that offer not being real or Penn State "cooling" on him?

    I don't disagree with Doogie's conclusion that this is a good start, not a great start to the Gophers 2019 recruiting class, but he's seemingly going out of his way to make a top 100 recruit (never mentioned that fact in the podcast by the way) seem like a leftover. If you had no idea about recruiting and listened to the podcast, you would have thought David Roddy was the far superior prospect.
    This is summarizes my thoughts on the recruiting segment of the podcast. Very well put EG. I have wondered if Wahl committed to Minnesota instead of Tray, would Doogie be praising the recruiting class instead? Feels like Doogie is going out of his way to put down out of state kids vs. instate recruits who aren't rated as high as Jackson.

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    Doogie has always seemed a little too homer for my taste. A top 100 recruit is a top 100 recruit. When Dutcher pulled in the no.1 recruiting class, I don't think there was a Minnesotan among them. This year if you had gotten the top three MN kids you would have a top 10 class, but that wouldn't have included Wahl. He is down on Pitino for not closing the borders. But this ain't football, you don't have 25 scholarships per year and it ain't hockey where our school is considered a blue blood program. Washington was #62 and people complain we didn't get McKinley Wright. We get Jackson #83 and people complain we missed out on Wahl #130?. It doesn't make any sense.

    He will jump on Pitino if we miss out on Hurt and Zeke, but what else could he have done in recruiting these guys? The blue blood appeal is hard to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    Doogie has always seemed a little too homer for my taste. A top 100 recruit is a top 100 recruit. When Dutcher pulled in the no.1 recruiting class, I don't think there was a Minnesotan among them. This year if you had gotten the top three MN kids you would have a top 10 class, but that wouldn't have included Wahl. He is down on Pitino for not closing the borders. But this ain't football, you don't have 25 scholarships per year and it ain't hockey where our school is considered a blue blood program. Washington was #62 and people complain we didn't get McKinley Wright. We get Jackson #83 and people complain we missed out on Wahl #130?. It doesn't make any sense.

    He will jump on Pitino if we miss out on Hurt and Zeke, but what else could he have done in recruiting these guys? The blue blood appeal is hard to beat.
    +1000!

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    All I know is Doogie couldn't handle posters calling him out on his bull****, so he tucked and ran, and hasen't been back here in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGopher View Post
    FWIW, in his latest Scoops Podcast, Doogie tempered excitement a little bit on Jackson. He said Xavier recently dropped out of their recruitment of Jackson, Doogie said he found it interesting that some media outlets reported Tray's comment that he considered Michigan State, Purdue, Oregon, etc., but Doogie went on to say that Michigan State and Oregon did not offer him. He also said Oklahoma's interest in Jackson "cooled" after they tried to get him. Doogie said: "bottom line from what I have been told is there is some potential there. This is a good start, not a great start for the Gophers 2019 recruiting class."

    http://www.1500espn.com/tag/the-scoop/

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    Doogie is one of the least plugged in reporters in this town, I've been told that by multiple people in the business. He throws stuff on the wall to see if it sticks. I'm not saying he doesn't try and make the effort to get info, but there are media people far more plugged in. When was the last time he had the news first on a legitimate sports story in this town? Oh yeah, never. That said, I do enjoy his podcasts and interviews with the local kids. I trust Fuller, Ryan James and Ryan Burns with recruiting info before anyone else.

    I expect Tray Jackson to be a solid contributor right away. He's a consensus top 100 recruit and looks like a great athlete. I'm excited to see him next year, especially since he said himself he wants this year to mature and grow as a player when he could be a freshman in college if he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BballJones View Post
    +1000!
    I second that. LEVEL HEADED POSTS are now allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    Doogie has always seemed a little too homer for my taste. A top 100 recruit is a top 100 recruit. When Dutcher pulled in the no.1 recruiting class, I don't think there was a Minnesotan among them. This year if you had gotten the top three MN kids you would have a top 10 class, but that wouldn't have included Wahl. He is down on Pitino for not closing the borders. But this ain't football, you don't have 25 scholarships per year and it ain't hockey where our school is considered a blue blood program. Washington was #62 and people complain we didn't get McKinley Wright. We get Jackson #83 and people complain we missed out on Wahl #130?. It doesn't make any sense.

    He will jump on Pitino if we miss out on Hurt and Zeke, but what else could he have done in recruiting these guys? The blue blood appeal is hard to beat.
    Exactly, Pitino will keep getting very good players that want to play for the U. Like I have said several times, the Minnesota kids better wise up and realize that Pitino will not wait on them. Also, like you pointed out, Minnesota is producing a lot D1 level talent, but not all of them will be good enough to play at the U (because the U can attract better talent).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    Exactly, Pitino will keep getting very good players that want to play for the U. Like I have said several times, the Minnesota kids better wise up and realize that Pitino will not wait on them. Also, like you pointed out, Minnesota is producing a lot D1 level talent, but not all of them will be good enough to play at the U (because the U can attract better talent).
    I think he has always landed really good players and will continue to do so. But it is time to win a conference title and he landed a critical piece this year in Rob Jeter. Gone are the days of mediocre team defense as Jeter knows all about getting great shots on offense and not giving good looks on defense. No more defenses ranked below 70. Very bullish on this years team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    I think he has always landed really good players and will continue to do so. But it is time to win a conference title and he landed a critical piece this year in Rob Jeter. Gone are the days of mediocre team defense as Jeter knows all about getting great shots on offense and not giving good looks on defense. No more defenses ranked below 70. Very bullish on this years team.
    I like this team, but I don't think they have the goods to hang banner, maybe top four, would like to be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemidjigopher View Post
    I like this team, but I don't think they have the goods to hang banner, maybe top four, would like to be wrong

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    I can deal with top 4 if the arrow is still pointing up after. I’m a Pitino supporter, but he’s gotta break the ice here soon.


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