Kill/Claeys/Limegrover presser notes - Kill "Northwestern wanted it more than we did"

I think Limegrover just confirmed our concern that OC and OL coach is too much for one person to handle at this level. He said that Kill stepped in to help and let him concentrate on just the OL.


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I think Limegrover just confirmed our concern that OC and OL coach is too much for one person to handle at this level. He said that Kill stepped in to help and let him concentrate on just the OL.

Yeah, get a dedicated OL coach or OC, but not one dude for both.
 

I don't bet on games because I don't live in Las Vegas. Has Jerry Kill beaten a top 10 team? Which you ignored in my first post. No. So how am I making things up?
Well typically when you're a ten point dog or worse the other team should be better then you. Maybe as the year played out the gophs ended up being the better team, so I guess argument is at the time of the game or at the end of the year. Nebraska was ranked when we beat them in Lincoln, beating ranked team in their house is legit, no matter how you slice it, especially if you're not ranked. Those two wins Mason had were great wins, better then any Kill has, but he had his clunkers as well, like the week after beating Ohio State, getting waxed at Indiana, I believe that team had a home loss to Ohio. Were probably the only team in modern football to beat Ohio State and lose to Ohio in the same year. I for one have no issue with winning games you're suppose to win. Upsets are upsets because they shouldn't happen, I think not having enough upsets is a ridiculous stat to hold against a coach. There are plenty of other things you can hold the coach accountable for. I think Kill has only played a top ten team twice. Maybe three times if Wisco was in 2011. Don't think Sparty was yet two years ago.
 

I don't bet on games because I don't live in Las Vegas. Has Jerry Kill beaten a top 10 team? Which you ignored in my first post. No. So how am I making things up?

That was one part of your post. The other part claiming that we haven't beaten teams better than us is 100% you making things up.
 

only 2 posters in GH FB board that know how to roll with gopher wagering... Fryguy is one and i'll bet you can guess who the other is. so money.......often i amaze myself at how clearly i see it.
 


Well typically when you're a ten point dog or worse the other team should be better then you. Maybe as the year played out the gophs ended up being the better team, so I guess argument is at the time of the game or at the end of the year. Nebraska was ranked when we beat them in Lincoln, beating ranked team in their house is legit, no matter how you slice it, especially if you're not ranked. Those two wins Mason had were great wins, better then any Kill has, but he had his clunkers as well, like the week after beating Ohio State, getting waxed at Indiana, I believe that team had a home loss to Ohio. Were probably the only team in modern football to beat Ohio State and lose to Ohio in the same year. I for one have no issue with winning games you're suppose to win. Upsets are upsets because they shouldn't happen, I think not having enough upsets is a ridiculous stat to hold against a coach. There are plenty of other things you can hold the coach accountable for. I think Kill has only played a top ten team twice. Maybe three times if Wisco was in 2011. Don't think Sparty was yet two years ago.

Right, that's all I'm saying. So how did the majority of Gopher fans view the TCU game last year? At the time we were dominated by an unranked TCU team. By the end of the season it turns out we were dominated by a top 6 TCU team. TCU used the same argument, saying they dominated a borderline top 25 Gopher team early in the season. Most Gopher fans didn't feel so bad about that loss by the end of the season. You have to take into account the entire season. How many times have highly ranked teams early in the year proven to be mediocre or bad teams by the end of the year? It happens every year.

My point from the beginning is that Kill/Limegrover's conservative play calling is for the most part is going to beat the teams with talent equal to or less than the Gophers. They need to take chances if they are going to beat teams that are clearly better than them. They have not done that to this date.
 

For the second straight week, it starts playing several minutes after it started, so I missed the beginning. But, each week JK says something that gives me a harbinger of some of the behind-the-scenes workings of the program. Not in GL's notes was his comment about getting back to coaching his way. I may try to go back for another listen later, but I read between the lines and wasn't sure. I just wonder if he's been pulled into some of the other things that come with the position, perhaps fund-raising or the AD situation, that are certainly important, but his forte is coaching and leading this program from a football standpoint. He's charismatic and has much to offer, but we'll all feel better if he decides to coach more and the other stuff suffers for a bit.

No need to, here's the complete transcript the U sent out:

Jerry Kill

Q. What did you think of Purdue when you looked at the tape? Obviously it was an entertaining game they played the other day, but what did you see?
COACH KILL: Well, I think it's a team that -- Michigan State is very good, and I think they played very physical against Michigan State and matched the physicalness of it, and then their offensive coordinator is very good at Purdue. I was talking to Coach Claeys before we came in here, and he's one of the better guys that preparation-wise, they gave us a lot of trouble a year ago, so they do some unique things and they're very difficult. But they're a team that's getting better, and you know, I mean, they were physical against Michigan State. They played very physical.

I think it's a team that is very similar to what we were a couple years ago and trying to get better and improving, and I think they are. It's one of those things where you don't play Michigan State like that -- I mean, they were physical with Michigan State, and Michigan State is a physical team.

Q. If you look at the track record you guys have the last 14, 15 years, everywhere you've gone has been improvement each year offensively, or scoring 35 points a game. How tough is this for you and Matt, maybe Jimmy, just what you're going through offensively right now?
COACH KILL: It was tough on -- I mean, we all contribute. We all work together. We're a unique group, and it's -- you know, it's tough. I mean, it's not easy. I just got off the call from the Big Ten, and the guy from Nebraska called me and said, hey, can you explain all the injuries because we've got six guys out, and we're setting there with Jonah Percy is playing with a bruise on his shoulder, Joe Bjorklund left in the second quarter. It's more about how we're going to solve things right now, so that's -- that's coaching. I mean, we've been in there grinding and thinking, what do we need to do, how are we going to do it, so forth. But it's disappointing. I mean, we've all got pride, and we all want to be good.

I've had those stages -- I've been defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator, recruiting -- I've done it all, so I've had some situations like this before. I mean, you know, I was on a team that we tied the worst team in the league 6-6 with a true freshman quarterback because a guy got hurt and we won the National Championship after that, so I mean, you've just got to keep grinding. We're certainly not going to give up or anything of that nature. I think we've got to find a way to get better, and that's -- personally, you know, I think it's a great challenge for us, and we've always been fairly good when our back is against the wall, I think, the first time.

We had a good session in here with our kids. We were in here. Coach Kill sat right there, and I had all the offensive players and their coaches right there, and I went play by play by play. I'd do that with you but I wouldn't want to point out kids. But we're a couple players here and a couple players here, a couple players here. It's not just one person. We have breakdowns.

We had somebody talk to me, I think son any said, coach, you ran it on 3rd down and 15 or whatever, and Rodney Smith, if one of our offensive linemen don't turn back, which he's supposed to be going up to safety doesn't turn back, Rodney Smith is out the door for six points. That's how close it is. But kids don't understand that until they see it as a whole group, and I held everybody accountable. It wasn't a yelling session. It was just, okay, what's your first step, you know, where are you going. Matt, do you have anything to add to it. Instead of going out and practicing, we spent all our time right here in this room, so that was different. So we're trying to do everything we can to get it fixed.

Physically we may have to start two platoons, some of the offensive linemen, just say, hey, give us 30 plays. Never done that, either, but we may have to do that. Belichick does it a little bit up at New England. When you're beat up like that, you know -- we get John Christenson, I think he's going to play this week. He's going to try to practice today. That will help us. We moved the ball the first two series down the deal and then Joe Bjorklund went out with his knee.

It's frustrating, but I think the kids are holding in there pretty good, and they're embarrassed, you know, they don't want to do that. Offensive line don't want to do that; nobody does. It's really hard on Matt because he's offensive coordinator and offensive line coach, so that's not an easy gig either in itself. We're just all going to have to put our heads together and get it worked out. Right now we've all stayed positive, and let's dig in here and go. So that's what we've done.

Q. Do you typically watch film by position group, and was that --
COACH KILL: Everybody in the country does that because you can teach faster, move faster, things like that. But we decided to do it as a group. Not the first time I've done that, but first time with this group, and they needed to understand the big picture, you know.

And then you don't point fingers because every one of them had a breakdown or two, and that's where it lies is the mental part of it, you know, and so that means you've still got to keep cutting, keep cutting what you do until you execute, you know, and if we're not executing, then we must be doing too much for the kids we have right now, so you've got to cut back.

And then we've got to -- we've got to play to our strengths right now. I don't want to talk a lot about it, but we've got two great running backs. They're not good, they're really good for freshmen. KJ Maye is playing pretty darned good. We need to play to those guys' strength. We need to run the ball. We've got to get back to being who we are, and we've got to find a way to do it.

We were throwing the ball 35 times a game. That isn't who we are. That's not who I am. That's not who we are. That's not how we're going to be able to win in the Big Ten. We won eight games last year, and I think Mitch was 10 for 15 against Northwestern.

Q. How do you keep the confidence up on the team? Have they lost their confidence at all?
COACH KILL: I'm sure some offensively, certainly. How do you get that back? You've got to go make a play or two. I mean, that's pretty -- when things aren't going your way, you treat -- it's kind of like life; when things aren't going your way, you've got to have something good happen before you get back on track in life. Same way in football. I mean, nothing is really going right right now. We need something good to happen. Well, you've got to go make something happen to feel good, and so we've got to have some success and have some things to get us rolling.

But it's that -- we've got to get healthy, and that's an excuse. It is, but that would help us. But in the meantime, we can still do it with the players we have, but we have to maintain their confidence, and part of that you can't come in here and beat them up. I mean, they're beat up enough. They feel bad enough. I mean, our kids care. You think they want to hear everybody say, what happened and where they're at? But this is still early in the season now. We're 3-2 and we're 0-1, and we didn't play worth a darned against Illinois last year. This ain't the end of the world. And if you look at the Big Ten right now, teams are winning 13-10, 10-6. Offensively I don't know if there's a juggernaut in there right now. Iowa maybe, but they scored 10 points to win.

I think right now it's just how are you going to win. How are we going to win? If it's 17-14, who cares? Don't turn the ball over. Don't be high-risk, things of that nature. I think that that's what we've got to get back into our kids.

Like I said, those two backs in the first two drives, you know, that's how it should be. But you can't -- we've got 3rd down and 3 and we run a bootleg, and we need to -- instead of throwing it, just run the ball, get the 1st down, let's move on, so things of that nature. And when you get down there, Coach Kill, most of his career, all of it, you get past the 40 yard line, it's four down territory, certainly the way our defense is playing right now and certainly the way the wind was.

So you ought to be able to get three yards, three yards, three yards, one yard the way I look at it. We just need to utilize some of the people better and get the ball to the play makers. That's our fault, not them.

Q. What are the expectations for the quarterback position this year? How will you still meet them?
COACH KILL: My expectation is win.

Q. Coming into the season?
COACH KILL: Win. That's what quarterbacks do. You've got to win. You've got do win or move the chains. That's our expectation.

Q. Sounds like Mitch is available to the media today. Can you read into that that he's going to continue as your starter?
COACH KILL: No, Mitch will meet with the media any time. He's not going to dodge any bullets. The one time he didn't, I think it was a tough situation for him, and we held him back. That wasn't even my decision. That was Paul's. He's going to answer to the media, and I'm not going to make any comments at quarterback.

First of all, we make any comments, that affects -- nobody needs to know about that. Nobody needs to know what we're doing with the quarterback from week to week. We don't need to tell anybody what we're going to do.

Right now we all -- I mean, Mitch, the whole group together has made a mistake here, here, and here. It's not one person. But we'll see how all that -- see how all that works out. We've got a ton of things to work out right now.

Q. You definitely want to take the heat off of your players and all that. I'm just wondering from a coaching standpoint, like when we talked about how it looks like the team's lost confidence, did the coaches lose some confidence in that game? Because if you look at it as a whole, there weren't a lot of deep shots. There weren't a lot of no trick plays. You guys seemed pretty conservative in that game.
COACH KILL: Just poor coaching. Poor coaching on my part. The wind is blowing 30 miles an hour, and they didn't take very many deep shots either. But that's poor coaching. I did a good job of coaching last year for the most part. We won eight games and did some things we've never done here before, and all that good things. But this is a new year, and right now I'm doing a poor job coaching. A lot of people feel that way. Right now they're right.

But I'm not going to feel sorry for myself. I'm a competitor. I don't really care. I know I've got to do a better job. We need to do a better job. That's why I've been back in that room. Me and Coach Limegrover were up until midnight on Sunday. We take it serious. We've got to do better. We've got to do a better job of coaching. We've got to do a better job of getting players the right ball. We've got to do a better job in practice. We've got to get them feeling good. We've got to get our confidence back -- all the things that you mentioned.

But that starts with the head football coach, and I'm in charge. I'm in charge of everybody. So I think the film session in here with everybody was a good session. So we need to get -- Coach Kill has got to get back to the way he's used to coaching too. You look when things aren't good, I know how I'm used to doing things, and I know why we haven't been doing them, but I need to get back to the way I'm used to coaching. That's don't hold nothing back and roll the dice a little bit. So that's all on me.

It was a good question, but sometimes you have good articles and sometimes they're probably not very good. I don't know. I don't read them all the time. Some years you're the newspaper guy of the world, and one year your boss may not think you're very good. You're only as good as your last game in football. If you're not a football coach and don't understand that, you've got issues. There are just some years you can't control a lot of things.

But as a coach -- to be honest with you, I'm in this situation, I don't want to be in it, but at the same time, sometimes people strive in trying to get things better and get things fixed. I've been more motivated this week than I've been motivated all year because I'm not happy, you're not happy, the fans aren't happy. Everybody's got a right not to be happy. I get it.

So what am I going to do? I've had that back against the wall since I've been here on a lot of things. When you get your back against the wall, you feel sorry for yourself, or you can bow up and compete. We're going to bow up and compete. Done it all our lives. Our players reflect that too.

I think the biggest disappointment I had -- and I told the kids -- I didn't think our teams were playing -- Saturday, Northwestern wanted it more than we did. That bothers me. You could tell that by sideline. I mean, they had all kinds of juice on that sideline. We had all kinds of juice at the TCU game, you know what I mean? All kinds of energy.

And I didn't think that -- you know, in the Big Ten, there's little margin for error. You've got to play with some juice. It doesn't matter where you go and play. I didn't see that TCU high fiving each other, having fun, all that kind of stuff. So that bothers me.

I felt that the turning point of the game was when they had the punt return, 10-0. Otherwise, you go in 3-0. You're going to have to beat them 14, whatever. Went in at halftime, came back out, and didn't play with emotion, didn't play as hard -- Coach Claeys will tell you didn't play as hard on defenses. That disappointed me. I called a time-out on defense, called Cody Poock over and said, Hey, get this stuff taken care of. Get it done. Compete. Help me out here. And we stopped them. Shouldn't have to use a time-out to do that. So that disappointed me.

Again, that's -- but it's our job to get them where they need to be. It reminded me of the Illinois game, just to speak straight with you. Just reminded me of that. That should never happen when you're playing the 16th team in the country.

And they're good. They've only given up three touchdowns all year. People go, oh, you know, Northwestern -- let me tell you, they're good up front. They hit us in the mouth. They play physical. They're really good on defense and don't turn the ball over. They beat us at our game.

Q. Is this a better football team than your team Saturday?
COACH KILL: Yeah, they were on Saturday. You're right. Straightforward.
 

How many top 10 teams have we even played in the Kill era? TCU this year and Ohio State last year are the only two off the top of my head that were top 10 when we played them.


2005, I believe (vs Purdue) was our last win over an AP Top 20 team. I hope someone fact checks this and proves me wrong. Be nice to get one sometime and, hope we can get that done sooner rather than later.
 

Right, that's all I'm saying. So how did the majority of Gopher fans view the TCU game last year? At the time we were dominated by an unranked TCU team. By the end of the season it turns out we were dominated by a top 6 TCU team. TCU used the same argument, saying they dominated a borderline top 25 Gopher team early in the season. Most Gopher fans didn't feel so bad about that loss by the end of the season. You have to take into account the entire season. How many times have highly ranked teams early in the year proven to be mediocre or bad teams by the end of the year? It happens every year.

My point from the beginning is that Kill/Limegrover's conservative play calling is for the most part is going to beat the teams with talent equal to or less than the Gophers. They need to take chances if they are going to beat teams that are clearly better than them. They have not done that to this date.

So how do two Nebraska teams that were ranked for a good portion of both seasons (nearly all of 2014), won 9 games in both seasons, and suffered their only home loss in 2014 to Minnesota, fit into your fabricated #narrative?
 



2005, I believe (vs Purdue) was our last win over an AP Top 20 team. I hope someone fact checks this and proves me wrong. Be nice to get one sometime and, hope we can get that done sooner rather than later.

This is correct. That Purdue team was ranked 11th at the time, then finished the season 5-6, which furthers the point I made in my last post. Before that it was the #6 Ohio State team in 2000.
 

So how do two Nebraska teams that were ranked for a good portion of both seasons (nearly all of 2014), won 9 games in both seasons, and suffered their only home loss in 2014 to Minnesota, fit into your fabricated #narrative?

Winning one more game than the Gophers both years, and having the same conference record last year makes them a clearly better team? Did you actually watch the Gophers physically dominate the Huskers in both of those games? But the Gophers were clearly worse because that's what the spread said right?
 

Thanks for posting the transcript, GL. I really appreciate your notes, so I hope you didn't take my comment to mean you whiffed on anything.
 

Right, that's all I'm saying. So how did the majority of Gopher fans view the TCU game last year? At the time we were dominated by an unranked TCU team. By the end of the season it turns out we were dominated by a top 6 TCU team. TCU used the same argument, saying they dominated a borderline top 25 Gopher team early in the season. Most Gopher fans didn't feel so bad about that loss by the end of the season. You have to take into account the entire season. How many times have highly ranked teams early in the year proven to be mediocre or bad teams by the end of the year? It happens every year.

Given that TCU was an 18 point favorite (even coming off a bad season), any Gopher fan who was being honest viewed it for what it was, a far superior team dominating a decent but not great Gopher team. They shouldn't have felt badly about it at all, either at the time or at the end of the season.
 



Back to the "too conservative" argument. The problem is we just don't know whether this Gopher team is even capable of playing that kind of game.

If The Gophers come out against Purdue and try to chuck the ball all over the place - AND Leidner throws a pick-6, I guarantee there will be people on here complaining about the play-calling being "too risky," or "abandoning the running game."

It gets back to the argument I've had with people about play-calling. if a play works, then people say it was a good call. if a play doesn't work, they say it was a bad call. I'm not breaking down game film like the coaches, so I have to accept their opinion when they say they're having breakdowns and missed assignments. Any play is potentially a good play if the offense executes better than the defense. Any play is potentially a bad play if the defense executes better than the offense. I know HS coaches who have run the same offense for years - everybody knows WHAT they're going to do, and they make it work because of execution (and better athletes......).
 

That personal foul penalty against Tommy Olson was some home cooking for the Badgers

Thanks for the great recap GII. After reading about the Wisconsin game I am reminded why I am usually not too upset when Kill plays it conservatively. Your points bring Bear Bryant's (I think that it was him), words back to mine, "most football games are not won, they are lost." Go Jerry, Go Gophers!

Olson was finishing off his block there and didn't really do anything that rated getting a flag, but because your on the road and playing that team he should have known anything that looked borderline or possibly near being late was going to get called. I thought it was a BS call. Same thing with the supposed hands to the face penalty on Olson, guy goes down has his face mask fall in to Olson's hand, Olson did nothing to grab it and there was no intent to grab or grasp the face-mask, yet the referee called that penalty. That was a bad call on the hands to the face, two very costly penalty's for sure. Gophers made some mistakes but Wisconsin started getting some calls that really helped them turn that football game last year. Just think about it, Gophers went in to Madison last year and we were really pounding on them the first half, and then they get the lucky break where we have to kick a field goal, they get a huge kick off return and then a long pass to get back in the game where we should have almost had them put away in the first half. The personal foul penalty let Wisconsin back in that football game, so it is a play where you can point to and say that play changed momentum.
 

Think it's pretty telling about this year's squad that Kill said they didn't play hard, didn't compete and Northwestern wanted it more. Not good for an opening conference game against a ranked team.

Might be this team's psyche is so fragile they won't recover. Will see how they respond Saturday.
 



Kill/Claeys/Limegrover presser notes - Kill "Northwestern wanted it more than...

"I know how I'm used to doing things, and I know why we haven't been doing them, but I need to get back to the way I'm used to coaching. That's don't hold nothing back and roll the dice a little bit. So that's all on me."

I found those comments the most interesting, particularly the "I know why we haven't been doing them".

Anybody else find those comments pretty interesting? I want to know the answer to the "and I know why we haven't been doing them"???

On a side note, I love listening to Coach Kill's press conferences. Love listening to Coach Claey's as well.

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Do you have any specifics as to when we went too conservative in that game when we had the chance to go for the kill?

- We were up 14-3 and were driving when Tommy Olson committed a personal foul penalty. End result we have to kick a FG.

That drive was the chance I thought we had to go for the Kill. Watching live I was upset that they took Cobb out on the first down of the series where Olson got called. I was thinking 21-3 here and we just might roll! Get on a roll an bury this team. It was an extremely unfortunate call on Olson. With that being said, I was begging for a fake field goal. I just think the reward far outweighed the risk in that situation. On the road against a team you haven't beat in a decade. If it doesn't work at least your guys know we're here to go all out, put the throttle down, and go after this team relentlessly. I think the field goal was a win for Wisconsin. I think 21-3 and it's a different game. Man, I felt so strongly at the time and I still feel so strongly that that was "the chance to go for the Kill"! Water under the bridge now, but you'll never convince me they should have taken Cobb out and that wasn't the perfect scenario for a fake field goal. 14-3, 17-3, very similar. 21-3 big difference.
 

We were throwing the ball 35 times a game. That isn't who we are. That's not who I am. That's not who we are. That's not how we're going to be able to win in the Big Ten. We won eight games last year, and I think Mitch was 10 for 15 against Northwestern.

Q. How do you keep the confidence up on the team? Have they lost their confidence at all?
COACH KILL: I'm sure some offensively, certainly. How do you get that back? You've got to go make a play or two. I mean, that's pretty -- when things aren't going your way, you treat -- it's kind of like life; when things aren't going your way, you've got to have something good happen before you get back on track in life. Same way in football. I mean, nothing is really going right right now. We need something good to happen. Well, you've got to go make something happen to feel good, and so we've got to have some success and have some things to get us rolling.

But it's that -- we've got to get healthy, and that's an excuse. It is, but that would help us. But in the meantime, we can still do it with the players we have, but we have to maintain their confidence, and part of that you can't come in here and beat them up. I mean, they're beat up enough. They feel bad enough. I mean, our kids care. You think they want to hear everybody say, what happened and where they're at? But this is still early in the season now. We're 3-2 and we're 0-1, and we didn't play worth a darned against Illinois last year. This ain't the end of the world. And if you look at the Big Ten right now, teams are winning 13-10, 10-6. Offensively I don't know if there's a juggernaut in there right now. Iowa maybe, but they scored 10 points to win.

I think right now it's just how are you going to win. How are we going to win? If it's 17-14, who cares? Don't turn the ball over. Don't be high-risk, things of that nature. I think that that's what we've got to get back into our kids.

Like I said, those two backs in the first two drives, you know, that's how it should be. But you can't -- we've got 3rd down and 3 and we run a bootleg, and we need to -- instead of throwing it, just run the ball, get the 1st down, let's move on, so things of that nature. And when you get down there, Coach Kill, most of his career, all of it, you get past the 40 yard line, it's four down territory, certainly the way our defense is playing right now and certainly the way the wind was.

So you ought to be able to get three yards, three yards, three yards, one yard the way I look at it. We just need to utilize some of the people better and get the ball to the play makers. That's our fault, not them.


I don't know if you guys watched the press conference on BTN2GO, but a little tough to watch. He doesn't like to be questioned, as is his right. He is a stubborn old coot. That's good, and it's bad.

To me, the team psychology is a direct result of being handcuffed. It can't be a mystery why the team is down, can it? And he seemed to say that the answer is to run the ball even more. Now, that's ok, if we have the personnel to do it effectively. Do we? In the current scheme?

Just saying we have to execute better isn't an answer. That's akin to saying all Leidner has to do is hit 75% of his passes. Simple, right? It doesn't work that way. If you don't have the strength or the blockers on the line and at the TE/FB positions then "going back" to running into loaded boxes isn't going to work. Are we going to abandon any semblance of offensive surprise and try to run for 3/3/3/1 yards as he suggested? The team struggles when we go more conservative, not the other way around. But that seems counter to what I just read from Kill. Am I wrong?
 

Do you have any specifics as to when we went too conservative in that game when we had the chance to go for the kill?

- Still up 17-10 towards the end of the first half and the offense is driving again, Cobb fumbles. WI ends up with a FG before the half.

Do you remember how the offense was driving at the end of the half? That was a perfect example of Kill being too conservative.

Wisconsin scored with about 4:30 left in the half and we got the ball back at the 25. Perfect chance to try and drive down and get a touchdown back before the half, but Kill opted to go conservative instead. As he put it in his half time interview, "We thought maybe we could get a field goal." The drive started with a 5 yard run and then the offense let the entire play clock run down before snapping the ball again. The drive took 4:21 to go 44 yards in 10 plays. With 4:30 left in the half not giving the ball back was more important to Kill than trying to get points before the half.

After the drive ended in a fumble unfortunately Gary Andersen didn't do what Kill likely would have done when getting the ball back with :18 left in the half in letting the clock run out and Wisconsin managed to get a field goal right before halftime.
 

Maybe as the year played out the gophs ended up being the better team, so I guess argument is at the time of the game or at the end of the year.

Right, that's all I'm saying. So how did the majority of Gopher fans view the TCU game last year? At the time we were dominated by an unranked TCU team. By the end of the season it turns out we were dominated by a top 6 TCU team. TCU used the same argument, saying they dominated a borderline top 25 Gopher team early in the season. Most Gopher fans didn't feel so bad about that loss by the end of the season. You have to take into account the entire season. How many times have highly ranked teams early in the year proven to be mediocre or bad teams by the end of the year? It happens every year.

I specifically said top 10 opponent in my first post. To make it more clear I am referencing how Glen Mason won at #2 Penn State in his 3rd year, and at #6 Ohio State in his fourth year.


If you want to take the entire season into account instead of the team's rank at the time of the game (and I agree with you that is a better idea), then you will find that Glen Mason went 0-15 against Top 10 teams. Neither Penn St nor Ohio St finished their season in the top 10 the year the Gophers beat them. Below is a breakdown of each coach against Top 10 teams (all rankings from AP Poll).


Record against teams that finished the season in the Top 10
Glen Mason: 0-15
Jerry Kill: 0-5

Glen Mason's games against Top 10 teams

1997
L to Mich, 24-3 (Mich finished #1)

1998
L to OSU, 45-15 (OSU finished #2)
L to Wisc, 26-7 (Wisc finished #6)

1999
L to Wisc, 20-17 (Wisc finished #4)

2002
L to OSU, 34-3 (OSU finished #1)
L to Mich, 41-24 (Mich finished #9)
L to Iowa, 45-21 (Iowa finished #8)

2003
L to Mich, 38-35 (Mich finished #6)
L to Iowa, 40-22 (Iowa finished #8)

2004
L to Iowa, 29-27 (Iowa finished #8)

2005
L to PSU, 44-14 (PSU finished #3)
L to OSU, 45-31 (OSU finished #4)

2006
L to Mich, 28-14 (Mich finished #8)
L to Wisc, 48-12 (Wisc finished #7)
L to OSU, 44-0 (OSU finished #2)

Jerry Kill's games against Top 10 teams

2011
L to USC, 19-17 (USC finished #6)
L to Wisc, 42-13 (Wisc finished #10)

2013
L to MSU, 14-3 (MSU finished #3)

2014
L to TCU, 30-7 (TCU finished #3)
L to OSU, 31-24 (OSU finished #1)


In case any of you were wondering when the last time Minnesota beat a team that finished the season in the Top 10 was, that would be Jim Wacker's 2nd year in 1993 when Minnesota beat Wisconsin 28-21. That was Wisconsin's only loss that season and they went on to finish the season #6 in the AP Poll. And before that you have to go back to 1986.
 

Olson was finishing off his block there and didn't really do anything that rated getting a flag, but because your on the road and playing that team he should have known anything that looked borderline or possibly near being late was going to get called. I thought it was a BS call. Same thing with the supposed hands to the face penalty on Olson, guy goes down has his face mask fall in to Olson's hand, Olson did nothing to grab it and there was no intent to grab or grasp the face-mask, yet the referee called that penalty. That was a bad call on the hands to the face, two very costly penalty's for sure. Gophers made some mistakes but Wisconsin started getting some calls that really helped them turn that football game last year. Just think about it, Gophers went in to Madison last year and we were really pounding on them the first half, and then they get the lucky break where we have to kick a field goal, they get a huge kick off return and then a long pass to get back in the game where we should have almost had them put away in the first half. The personal foul penalty let Wisconsin back in that football game, so it is a play where you can point to and say that play changed momentum.

Not to mention the long pass play you allude to in your paragraph was snapped after the play clock hit 0 :/ dammit that was a tough game to be at in person
 

"I know how I'm used to doing things, and I know why we haven't been doing them, but I need to get back to the way I'm used to coaching. That's don't hold nothing back and roll the dice a little bit. So that's all on me."

I found those comments the most interesting, particularly the "I know why we haven't been doing them".

Anybody else find those comments pretty interesting? I want to know the answer to the "and I know why we haven't been doing them"???

On a side note, I love listening to Coach Kill's press conferences. Love listening to Coach Claey's as well.

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After thinking about it my guess as to why Kill said the bolded is that he was experimenting with some things this off season and this fall with the offense and now he is done experimenting and he's going to get back to doing the things he wants to do. Another guess is that he didn't want to get Leidner hurt and was protecting him and now he's like screw it, we're running what we've always run. I just found what he said there the far and away most interesting thing he said during the press conference.
 

If you want to take the entire season into account instead of the team's rank at the time of the game (and I agree with you that is a better idea), then you will find that Glen Mason went 0-15 against Top 10 teams. Neither Penn St nor Ohio St finished their season in the top 10 the year the Gophers beat them. Below is a breakdown of each coach against Top 10 teams (all rankings from AP Poll).


Record against teams that finished the season in the Top 10
Glen Mason: 0-15
Jerry Kill: 0-5

In case any of you were wondering when the last time Minnesota beat a team that finished the season in the Top 10 was, that would be Jim Wacker's 2nd year in 1999 when Minnesota beat Wisconsin 28-21. That was Wisconsin's only loss that season and they went on to finish the season #6 in the AP Poll. And before that you have to go back to 1986.

I think you meant 1993. Well done on the research though. It's just amazing that even the solid Gopher teams can't rise up and knock off a top team every once and a while.
 

I think you meant 1993. Well done on the research though. It's just amazing that even the solid Gopher teams can't rise up and knock off a top team every once and a while.
Yeah, you're right thanks. Change made to original post. And it is kind of amazing that it has been that long.
 

Flea Flickers. All good coaches call them. Lots of them.
 

Kill/Claeys/Limegrover presser notes - Kill "Northwestern wanted it more than...

If you want to take the entire season into account instead of the team's rank at the time of the game (and I agree with you that is a better idea), then you will find that Glen Mason went 0-15 against Top 10 teams. Neither Penn St nor Ohio St finished their season in the top 10 the year the Gophers beat them. Below is a breakdown of each coach against Top 10 teams (all rankings from AP Poll).


Record against teams that finished the season in the Top 10
Glen Mason: 0-15
Jerry Kill: 0-5

Glen Mason's games against Top 10 teams

1997
L to Mich, 24-3 (Mich finished #1)

1998
L to OSU, 45-15 (OSU finished #2)
L to Wisc, 26-7 (Wisc finished #6)

1999
L to Wisc, 20-17 (Wisc finished #4)

2002
L to OSU, 34-3 (OSU finished #1)
L to Mich, 41-24 (Mich finished #9)
L to Iowa, 45-21 (Iowa finished #8)

2003
L to Mich, 38-35 (Mich finished #6)
L to Iowa, 40-22 (Iowa finished #8)

2004
L to Iowa, 29-27 (Iowa finished #8)

2005
L to PSU, 44-14 (PSU finished #3)
L to OSU, 45-31 (OSU finished #4)

2006
L to Mich, 28-14 (Mich finished #8)
L to Wisc, 48-12 (Wisc finished #7)
L to OSU, 44-0 (OSU finished #2)

Jerry Kill's games against Top 10 teams

2011
L to USC, 19-17 (USC finished #6)
L to Wisc, 42-13 (Wisc finished #10)

2013
L to MSU, 14-3 (MSU finished #3)

2014
L to TCU, 30-7 (TCU finished #3)
L to OSU, 31-24 (OSU finished #1)


In case any of you were wondering when the last time Minnesota beat a team that finished the season in the Top 10 was, that would be Jim Wacker's 2nd year in 1993 when Minnesota beat Wisconsin 28-21. That was Wisconsin's only loss that season and they went on to finish the season #6 in the AP Poll. And before that you have to go back to 1986.

This is fascinating stuff. Thanks for posting! I enjoyed watching Mason's teams play, and they certainly did post some nice wins in his tensure, but according to the above he was only competitive (1 score or less) in 3 / 15 games. Kill's teams have been competitive in 2 / 5 (with another being an 11 pt loss). People might not like the coaching philosophy around here, but it keeps games tight for the most part.
 




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