Kill/Claeys/Limegrover presser notes - Kill "I'm never going to apologize for a win"

This is partially what spread offenses are intended to do is lessen weakness on line

Play calling could easily help out our o-line, spread the formation out so they can't stack the box. Can't get big gains against 8-9 guys in the box.

The biggest reason the spread formation was developed wasn't just to have an Air Raid offense or sling the ball around it was to get the extra 1 to 2 guys out of the box and have a hat on a hat as far as blocking goes. That and if your offensive line is not as strong or you are facing a strong front it gives you the opportunity to still make plays in a short period of time lessening the chance for mistakes.

Offensive problems are not just the QB is not able to pass, or the O-line is missing to many blocks, or the running backs are not making the right reads, or the WR are not getting separation at the line of scrimmage, it is a combination of a lot of those things, but coach is right this offense is designed to run the football and convert first downs. Gophers need to find a starting five up front that are healthy and start playing them in the same spots from week to week. It all starts up front and if we cannot get healthy up there than there will continue to be issues.

Teams are taking that run away from the Gophers right now because they see we are trying to run power and inside zone a lot. Probably trying to run behind Bobek and Mayes on the right due to the injury's on the left side of the line.

One kid I think I have noticed who hasn't gotten the ball that I think can help on offense is possibly Jerry Gibson. I see lining him up as the H back(The Max Williams routes) out of that two back set a spot they have putting Wolitarsky at and see if can put Gibson in there run those stick route plays or quick outs you are running to Wolitarksy to Gibson and see if his size and strength can lead to some more YAC. I like Wolitarky and KJ Maye at the line because they seem like the two guys that are strong enough and experienced enough to get off the line and run the right route and get open.

I think one of the reasons people ask about Jeff Jones is they think the kid is a playmaker and if you get the ball in his hands he has a chance to make a play and make the defense miss or break a tackle. For whatever reason he must not be showing that in practice due to the Injury's or practice time or whatever. I always saw Jones as being physically strong and a guy that can break away from people so if you get him those bubble or missile screen routes to the outside maybe with his shiftiness and strength he can break off a nice run. This must not be part of the plan at least not right now. Gophers will find a way, we have seen a lot of creativity the last three or four years, I think they can add a few wrinkles as far as scheme goes that might not be to much for the guys to execute.
 

Kill/Claeys/Limegrover presser notes - Kill "I'm never going to apologize for...

I believe we were 100% in the red zone on Saturday.

You're aware our 50% red zone efficiency is literally dead last in the FBS? 127 out of 127.
 

Thanks Nadine.

"You can't blame the kids or players.. we may be putting stuff on the board that they can't do..."


That right there is SCARY to read considering we perhaps ran the most VANILLA offensive gameplan I've ever seen (Middle School, JV, and Varsity High School included) against Kent St. I don't know how much more you can dumb down a game plan so that they can do it. This in part goes back to coaching on the Offense and O-Line (Limegrover), but I'm starting to believe it may be Kill handcuffing Limegrover.

I think that can be taken several different ways though. My guess is he didn't mean that they don't understand what they are supposed to do. Just that they may not be capable of doing everything the coaches thought they could.

It's obvious by the game plan last week that the coaches felt we could line up and just overwhelm the defense no matter if they knew what was coming or not.
 

Going into the game, it might have been reasonable to think the Gophers could pound the ball up the middle all day. But when they saw it wasn't working there should have been a plan B. The frustrating part was no apparent plan B (or plan C). Unfortunately, it sounds like simplifying the offense for the next game is the way we will go. But maybe not.
 

Going into the game, it might have been reasonable to think the Gophers could pound the ball up the middle all day. But when they saw it wasn't working there should have been a plan B. The frustrating part was no apparent plan B (or plan C). Unfortunately, it sounds like simplifying the offense for the next game is the way we will go. But maybe not.

I think they initially went to plan B and took some shots down field, but after throwing a few interceptions, decided to go back to ultra-conservative and sneak out with a W.
 


Going into the game, it might have been reasonable to think the Gophers could pound the ball up the middle all day. But when they saw it wasn't working there should have been a plan B. The frustrating part was no apparent plan B (or plan C). Unfortunately, it sounds like simplifying the offense for the next game is the way we will go. But maybe not.

Ditto this. Obviously not being able to run killed the Gophers, but they kept trying, which drew the booing from what should have been a friendly home crowd. If Kent State can stuff our running game, what happens with Michigan, Northwestern, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc.? Hopefully, the coaches will open things up a bit on offense this week and win the Homecoming.
 

Here's the actual transcript:

Jerry Kill

JERRY KILL: To start off the press conference and things, I'll talk very shortly about last week and then move forward, but you know, we've done a lot of things, Sunday with the players, and talked to them quite a bit and worked through some things and kind of seen from an offensive standpoint what they felt they were struggling with and why we didn't play very good up front in some areas. It was interesting on some of the things that the kids said. You know, it was good.

So we got a lot done, a lot more done on Sunday than we normally do, and right now I think we're in the process of -- from an offensive line standpoint, trying to figure out with John Christenson being out and then Joe Bjorklund -- Joe can only practice about one day a week because of his knee, so we're trying to figure out who we can have as somebody to take the load off him.

And young freshmen that are being redshirted are working other areas. They're not quite ready. We spent a lot of time talking about personnel and things we're going to have to do.

You know, when you're struggling, you don't add things, you simplify things as much as you can with your guys, and so that's kind of where we are from there. We understand that the kids are struggling. I think the biggest thing we have to do -- they've been beat down pretty good, and so our job is we've got to get them feeling good, because I always say, if you don't feel good, you're not going to play good. So from a psychological deal, we've got to get them feeling good, and to get them to feel good, they've got to have a little bit of success.

So that's our job, and I basically said that during the press conference after the game, which is always hard to do when you're five minutes here and you walk in. But basically I'm not going to throw kids under the bus because we're not a pro team, and I've never thrown kids under the bus, and I won't. I make $2 million or $2.5 million, and they get books and tuition and fees, so I'd say the guy making the money is the one that needs to get better, and our coaches got to do a better job. We've communicated with the players, and I just was listening to Kirk Ferentz talk about back when he got the job, when they went to the Rose Bowl and so forth, offensively they weren't very good. They were great on defense and special teams, and he said we just didn't turn the ball over and were smart.

There's things you've got to do to adjust, and that's what we're working on, and all you can do is go work hard, and that's where we're at.

With that, any questions?

Q. It sounded like that comment from Ferentz made you feel a little bit better about what's going on here?
JERRY KILL: I don't know if it made me feel better. I still think you win on defense and special teams and you don't turn over the football and you've got a chance to win. He talked about some of the most success stories at Iowa is when they're really good on defense and didn't turn over the ball. He said I think his first year they couldn't run the ball at all, and a lot of people talk about quarterbacks and all that stuff right now, but truly our issue is not running the football as good as we've run the football. I mean, and we've got good backs, and they can carry the rock, but we've got to do better up front, and we've got to find a way to stay healthy, but at the same time, those are excuses. We've got to get it done. That's our job.

I mean, it drives Matt -- Matt is a proud guy. It's hard. But we've got to get it done and got to see what we can do up front to make things a little bit simpler and move forward and take care of the football better and be smarter.

Q. When you win a game scoring 10 points, is it in a way a negative associated with it?
JERRY KILL: You know, if you take anybody and you talk to guys in the NFL, it don't matter how you win as long as you win. You know, that's the thing that -- I don't know. You win 13-7, you watch -- Ohio State won. Everybody is talking about Ohio State and all the problems they got. They won. They beat Northern Illinois, and they only scored 13 offensive points, but they still won. Everybody wants to pull them off No. 1 because they didn't score enough points.

I mean, to me until you lose, you know, why should you drop? The game is about winning and losing, and we're 2-1, and really had a chance to be 3-0 if we don't turn over the football, so it really goes back to not turning over the football for us and being able to run the ball better, because that helps us with pass protection and things of that nature. I mean, we've been hit in the back way too damned many times in pass protection, so we've just got to get better. That's it.

But I can tell you this: If we win 3-0 and we beat Ohio and then we go and play Michigan on Halloween night and we win 6-0, I don't think anybody is going to care, especially if it's Michigan. At the end of the day, just win. Just win.

Q. Can you solve your offensive line issues in one week or is that going to be a gradual process?
JERRY KILL: We're going to try. Yeah, we're going to try. We're going to do the best we can. Uh-huh. We've got a lot of work to do and listening to kids. Some of our kids talked to us about different things we can do. I'm not one that goes and -- you know, you can't blame the kids or the players all the time. You know, you've got to look at what you have and you've got to communicate -- it's like I've coached for 32 years, and I know a lot of different football stuff. They don't know all that stuff. You know, so we may be putting stuff up there on that board that they can't do. We need to find out what they can do, so the only way you find that out is talk with them.

And so, yes, is it going to just snap your fingers? No, but I think we can do some things to help that matter.

Q. Are you talking about simplifying your blocking schemes?
JERRY KILL: Well, some of that, and do a better job of -- for instance, Coach Sawvel, okay, we get done with practice and there's a 10-minute period and he makes sure that all the checks in the secondary, we've probably got to do more than that on the offensive side of the ball. It don't have to be sprinting and beating the hell out of somebody. It can be, hey, okay, they're running the truck blitz, pick it up and so forth. We've got to do more. We're doing it, but evidently we need to do more, and the kids said that helps them, so if that helps them, we're going to do it more.

The players, the kids on offense, they're willing to do anything. You know, they don't -- let's put it this way: How many of you have children out there? All right, if you tell them they're not worth anything and they're bad all the time, are you going to like that? You want somebody to tell your kid, hey, you're terrible? Before long the kid is going to think he's terrible; is that right? All the ones raise your hand that have kids. You've got a kid and you're telling him every day he's terrible. You're a bad kid, you're a bad kid, you can't play, you can't play. Before long they don't think they can play. So it's no different on a football team.

My job as a head coach, I've got to get them to understand, hey, we're going to be all right, calm down here a little bit. You know, we'll be fine. If I remember right, Western Illinois we didn't play very good, what was it, a couple years ago. I mean, and we seen a couple against Colorado State, we seen a whole different defense and against Kansas State, they didn't play like they played Illinois. But again, it's all excuses. We have to find out what we can do to get things fixed as quickly as possible.

Nothing is ever easy, but I think we can certainly improve, you know, this week. I really do. I'm looking forward to it because controversy sometimes makes you better, you know. I've had a lot of that in my life, and kids, it makes them mentally tougher. It's like I said, I said, hey, guys, if you think this is tough, wait until you get in real life. This will prepare you. That's what football really is. You get pounded, you get pounded, and then you're going to have that in a whole life, so I've tried to swing it that way. Football is part of training you for life.

We have to. We've got to get them better as quick as we can.

Q. Are you satisfied with the balance between hurry-up offense and huddle offense?
JERRY KILL: Well, no, and I get questions all the time about that. I've said before, we'd like to be no different than a lot of the pro teams to where if they're struggling with tempo, then pick it up and adjust from there if we need to. The problem is with that right now, when you're short up front in the offensive line, you try to do too much of that, then all of a sudden your offensive line is tired and so forth.

We're going to have to play -- it's really going to come down to we're going to make some mistakes up there, but right now, and we're going to have to -- Tyler Moore, for instance, he's backup center right now. We may have to play him somewhere else. He may have to learn two positions. Do I want to do that with a freshman? No, but I've got no choice.

And if you get a little deeper, maybe you can do more of that.

Q. Besides the post-practice mental reps that they mentioned were helpful to them, what other feedback did the players give you?
JERRY KILL: I'd rather not go into all of that. I've already said something that I thought -- a lot of things. Even things that weren't football-related. Playing tight, you know, being unsure, things of that nature. Well, then I ask them why. Why are you doing that? So we just talk. It's kind of like talking to your kid. You've got to figure out why he's struggling in math, so you just talk to him. What are we going to do to fix it, and we've got to work together to fix it. It's not a time to come in and say, oh, you're terrible. Did I say -- I will say this: I said, all the things I've felt that you've talked to me about, I said, I agree with you. I said, it's great. We should have done this -- should feel great about it. But there is one thing I'll tell you that I'm right on is that I said we are supposed to be a tough, physical team, and I said, that's a little bit what I'm disappointed -- even if you make a mistake, go make it hurt.

There's a time to yell at somebody and there's a time to teach, and right now is a time to teach. They feel bad enough as it is. I know they played not very good.

Q. It's a 10-7 game, and how much did that shrink your playbook in the running play on 3rd down like in terms of fans are like, why aren't they going for it here, but you needed a play to get out of there with a win at that point?
JERRY KILL: All I can do is our staff, we always go back and evaluate it, and I think we did exactly what we needed to do to win the game. I mean, there's always opinions and so forth on what you do, but at the point in time, I talked to Archie Manning, I don't know what it was, a week ago, after that game, Dallas. Wasn't it Dallas when they were playing the Giants? They decided to throw the ball instead of run it, and then there was 25, 30 seconds that went off the clock. Same thing down there; if we'd have thrown the ball, all right, then the clock -- and it's incomplete, and we don't get the 1st down, then they've got more time. We're playing really good defense at the time, so why do that. Run the ball, take the clock down, because they didn't have any time-outs. We felt that was the right thing to do.

The only thing you could have done is took a penalty and pooch kicked it at the end of the game, try to get it down and make them go farther, but I think we all have so much confidence in our kicker, we thought, we'll stick it in there and so forth. Those are things you can question me on and say, hey, should you have punted it or kicked it. In retrospect, we'd have missed the field goal, so we should have took the penalty and punted it, make them go 85, 90 yards.

Pete had a great day. Our punter had a great day. That special teams thing can help us out a lot until we get going. But nobody has pushed the -- we just got to -- we've just got to execute and get better. I mean, that's what we've got to do. And our kids know it. That's the good thing. And they're embarrassed by it. If they didn't think, if they thought it was something else, but they know. We'll get it fixed.

But again, I'm never going to apologize for a win. I felt like I was apologizing for a win, and like I told our kids, you never apologize for winning, baby. It don't matter if it's one point; who cares.

Any other questions?

Q. There was a time in this program, maybe even before you got here, that any win was celebrated, and everyone felt really good no matter what happened on the field. But do you feel like there's at least some progress that maybe the expectation is a little bit higher for games against Kent State and --
JERRY KILL: Listen, this is the best problem you'd ever have in some aspects. That doesn't bother me at all. I mean, as you do better and you want to continue to do better -- I'd rather have somebody care than not care. You know, somebody said something about getting booed. I didn't know we were getting booed. I've got the headsets on. Somebody asked me that question in the press, and I said, I mean, they can boo me all they want. The way I look at it, they pay a ticket, they can boo. Hell, I'd have booed. I might not have booed, I might have been screaming and yelling. I mean, my wife asked me the same question after the press conference. She said, well, you didn't play very good on offense.

So I mean, you know what I mean? I understand all that. I think that's good. I mean, that's a better problem than nobody showing up for the game. You know, so I'm okay with that. There's nothing I'm not okay with. The only thing during the press conference after the game, I kept getting asked about specific players and players, and I'm not going to throw a player under the bus. I'm just not going to. I mean, I just -- you know, if everybody wants to talk about the quarterback, well, it's my fault. I've got to do a better job coaching him or I've got to place him -- whatever. But we've got other issues besides one person, or they asked me about the offensive line. Hey, this guy didn't play very well. Nope, coach got to do a better job of coaching him. That's just who I am. When I keep getting pounded and pounded about it, I just reacted. It wasn't anything personal to anybody or anything.

I've fired myself a lot of times. Should have been on Saturday. We didn't play very well. If I was the AD, I'd have been in the office wanting to know why the hell we didn't move the ball better. Then I'd have told the AD, hell, we won.
 

That was so good I just hit the tip jar. Seriously, you made my evening. Answered a lot of things, and I am excited for Saturday.
 

I for one hate trying to run out of the gun. The running back is taking his first step running east/west to reach the "mesh" point. If there is no threat of the QB pulling the ball and threatening the edge, what is the point? The key to running the ball is the angle, timing and blocking pattern facing the back. The hole might be at a slight angle, it might not be there and the ability to threaten the hole and bouncing it out to the edge separates the great backs. Williams is a downhill runner with little jump. Smith is a slasher, and seems to run the angles.

The running attack needs either read option, jet sweep, effective play action.
 



I for one hate trying to run out of the gun. The running back is taking his first step running east/west to reach the "mesh" point. If there is no threat of the QB pulling the ball and threatening the edge, what is the point? The key to running the ball is the angle, timing and blocking pattern facing the back. The hole might be at a slight angle, it might not be there and the ability to threaten the hole and bouncing it out to the edge separates the great backs. Williams is a downhill runner with little jump. Smith is a slasher, and seems to run the angles.

The running attack needs either read option, jet sweep, effective play action.


I know we are conservative versus opponents such as Kent State...but any guess why these three suggestions have been largely missing in all 3 games? We haven't run wide receiver screens pretty much ever but forcing the defense to honor the sidelines would help in my opinion as well.
 

I just don't know if Coach Kill really knows (or wants to admit) the reason his team is having offensive issues. Sure, he is not throwing Mitch under the bus, but he certainly just threw Rodney Smith and the Offensive linemen under the bus. Problem is, what did he expect from running up the middle 30 times? An offensive coach that could make adjustments would have changed that. Sure seems like they were just being conservative, which is fine... that's Coach Kill's style, but at least try some different type of runs. And when I say different type of runs, I mean sheesh, add some receiver jet sweeps and screens, and outside runs, etc. You might say... they won't work, well guess what? The runs straight up the middle didn't work either. It's like the Gophers just hid in the corner in a fetal position hoping the defense wouldn't bend and waiting for the time to run out.

So let's run it up the middle 30 times again, and if it doesn't work again, blame Rodney Smith and the offensive line again... Don't blame the guy that threw two interceptions with barely anyone in his face, or the guy that called the 30 runs up the middle.

If you're not going to throw anyone under the bus, why say it's the run game? Smith had no chance that game. I can understand blaming the offensive line by giving the injury excuse, but to say it's the run game and you calling 30+ runs up the middle into a defense that is actually pretty decent against the run, is your fault as a coach... not the run game's fault.
 

You can tell people's age by their thoughts on Sid.

30 years ago he was all we had. That was it. Only recruiting news I ever had was Dick Vitale's magazine (they listed the top HS players and who was recruiting them) and Sid's column. Nothing else. We would count down the days for his column and hope he had some gopher recruiting news in the jottings.

Sid can yell "get your ass out of here" to anyone he wants to. In my book, he's earned it.
 

You can tell people's age by their thoughts on Sid.

30 years ago he was all we had. That was it. Only recruiting news I ever had was Dick Vitale's magazine (they listed the top HS players and who was recruiting them) and Sid's column. Nothing else. We would count down the days for his column and hope he had some gopher recruiting news in the jottings.

Sid can yell "get your ass out of here" to anyone he wants to. In my book, he's earned it.

I also recall the dark age of sports reporting.
 



I have a suggestion... Since Kill seems to think it's the Run game... Try Jeff Jones? It's obvious from last week's performance that Rodney Smith isn't getting the job done.

/sarcasm
 

Here's the actual transcript:

We understand that the kids are struggling. I think the biggest thing we have to do -- they've been beat down pretty good, and so our job is we've got to get them feeling good, because I always say, if you don't feel good, you're not going to play good. So from a psychological deal, we've got to get them feeling good, and to get them to feel good, they've got to have a little bit of success.

The players, the kids on offense, they're willing to do anything. You know, they don't -- let's put it this way: How many of you have children out there? All right, if you tell them they're not worth anything and they're bad all the time, are you going to like that? You want somebody to tell your kid, hey, you're terrible? Before long the kid is going to think he's terrible; is that right? All the ones raise your hand that have kids. You've got a kid and you're telling him every day he's terrible. You're a bad kid, you're a bad kid, you can't play, you can't play. Before long they don't think they can play. So it's no different on a football team.

My job as a head coach, I've got to get them to understand, hey, we're going to be all right, calm down here a little bit. You know, we'll be fine. If I remember right, Western Illinois we didn't play very good, what was it, a couple years ago. I mean, and we seen a couple against Colorado State, we seen a whole different defense and against Kansas State, they didn't play like they played Illinois. But again, it's all excuses. We have to find out what we can do to get things fixed as quickly as possible.

Nothing is ever easy, but I think we can certainly improve, you know, this week. I really do. I'm looking forward to it because controversy sometimes makes you better, you know. I've had a lot of that in my life, and kids, it makes them mentally tougher. It's like I said, I said, hey, guys, if you think this is tough, wait until you get in real life. This will prepare you. That's what football really is. You get pounded, you get pounded, and then you're going to have that in a whole life, so I've tried to swing it that way. Football is part of training you for life.

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Let's check in with CAPT Ramsay to see how he would deal with this morale issue

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Not a fan of Kill saying the issue isn't with the QB. Granted the QB isn't our only issue on offense but it's clearly one of the issues. I don't expect coach to throw Mitch under the bus but I would like Kill to say something to the fans that would indicate to us that he's aware of a QB 'concern'. So far he's given no signals and that makes me worried.

Think of it this way.... If Kill plans on playing DC11 this weekend (not starting, but playing), then I for one am very happy he is keeping that internal at this point. Keep it SOP with ML7 leading up to the game to keep some pressure off Demry. Kill has already said Mitch needs to play better - no reason to labor it more than that, IMO.
 

Let's check in with CAPT Ramsay to see how he would deal with this morale issue

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I think the good Captain would say that Jerry is handling the situation well from a player standpoint and needs to work on his planning and execution skills as a leader. And, I think Jerry should take more time in the press conference to gather his thoughts and try to speak more articulately. He could start by differentiating "well" and "good" and using his tenses in some modest form of agreement. Where I really disagree with the coach is his confusion about eliminating complexity. Don't eliminate complexity for any other reason than whether or not it is in control or out of control on individual plays. But, the problem with that is how backward looking it is when the next team up may not defend it similarly or even the same team defend it differently on other plays. Complexity usually offers options and options provide a means to control. So, simplification is not necessarily a means to success, unless we are talking about Lean Six Sigma and time to study the problem for weeks on end. Jerry Kill learned everything he needed within the Sunday meeting to see what needed to be fixed. And, I think the player input gave them a chance to discover what needed fixing. That type of problem solving is a thing of beauty as it is both simple, teachable, and fixable in scale. Poor Ohio. They have no idea what is about to be thrown at them.
 

I know it's been pointed out elsewhere, but I'd just like to remind Chicken Little and his friends that Leidner connected on 17 out of 27 passes (63%) on Saturday, and the percentage likely would have been higher if the pass protection had been better.

Maybe coach Kill is right that the QB wasn't the problem.
 

I know it's been pointed out elsewhere, but I'd just like to remind Chicken Little and his friends that Leidner connected on 17 out of 27 passes (63%) on Saturday, and the percentage likely would have been higher if the pass protection had been better.

Maybe coach Kill is right that the QB wasn't the problem.

I think is Liedner is our best option at the moment but let's be careful here. Yes, his % would have been higher if he better pass protection, receivers didn't drop balls, he didn't over or under throw receivers, or throw two picks. Sure, he completed 63% but it was against Kent St. and a lot of short passes at that. Prior to this game, his completion % has been anemic.

I hope Liedner throws 20 or more passes and completes over 70% with no interceptions against Ohio. What I'm really hoping for and hope it isn't too much to ask for is that he completes 60% or more on a consistent basis from here on out.
 

I know it's been pointed out elsewhere, but I'd just like to remind Chicken Little and his friends that Leidner connected on 17 out of 27 passes (63%) on Saturday, and the percentage likely would have been higher if the pass protection had been better.

Maybe coach Kill is right that the QB wasn't the problem.

Just because he wasn't THE (biggest) problem doesn't mean he wasn't A problem. Let's not get carried away because of some OK completion % presented without context.
 

Just because he wasn't THE (biggest) problem doesn't mean he wasn't A problem.

I'm just supporting coach Kill's statement, which some people find fault with. The quarterback wasn't the problem. A bigger underlying problem was line play, which affected both the passing and the running games.
 




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