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Ok, now that the season is over, I want to ask this question of anyone in the know, or of anyone who simply has an opinion on the subject.
Why is the title of this forum, "7 National Titles Football Forum"?
The AP recognizes 4 Titles for Minnesota. Most sites, sports almanacs, etc., list 6 for Minnesota, and our grand total, if you accept every single one ever bestowed upon our Grand University, then you would list 10.
For decades, it was ingrained in my mind, that we had 6 Recognized Titles, and 10 overall.
Now recently, the University itself, acknowledged the Title from 1904. Making it 7 titles that the University recognizes. This makes the issue more confusing for me, because now we have the 4 that the Press recognizes, the 6 that all reputable football entities recognize, the 10 overall, but now the 7 that the Univ of Minnesota recognizes as well.
Should I officially declare that I recognize 8 or 9 of the titles, just to add to the confusion, lol?!
Why the Title in 1904, is my question, I guess?
In my own humble opinion, the title in 1903 included a more impressive game, the tie with Natk Champions Michigan. But I understand only 2 selectors have UMn as Champs in 1903, compared to something like 7 who have them as Champs in 1904.
Is it because of the scoring record in 1904? The 1911 Title was recognized by 8 selectors, more than the 1904 Title, so why is it not recognized by the University? Or was it because of who the selectors were? Are Billingsley or Patrick Premo considered a major selector or more authoritative?! Or was recognizing 1904's title just a judgement call the university made for their own reasons? Are they going to recognize the 1911 Title a couple years down the road? Was recognizing 1904's title, when they did, a publicity stunt or a way to simply remind people of Minnesota's storied past?!
I am just curious. Have been talking alot about dynasties in cfb lately, and I've referred to UMn's Recognized Dynasty from 1934-41 as its 2nd Dynasty, and pointed to Henry William's pre-WW1 teams from 1900-1917 as our 1st Dynasty, with 4 Titles included during that time. I always make note of how both Dynasties were slowed down or hurt by or stopped by World Wars, and I don't think I'm making anything up when I state that. Makes for interesting and fun discussion. So all that discussion just got me wondering about this question. I'd appreciate any feedback, positive or negative, about my main question or anything else contained in this post.
Why is the title of this forum, "7 National Titles Football Forum"?
The AP recognizes 4 Titles for Minnesota. Most sites, sports almanacs, etc., list 6 for Minnesota, and our grand total, if you accept every single one ever bestowed upon our Grand University, then you would list 10.
For decades, it was ingrained in my mind, that we had 6 Recognized Titles, and 10 overall.
Now recently, the University itself, acknowledged the Title from 1904. Making it 7 titles that the University recognizes. This makes the issue more confusing for me, because now we have the 4 that the Press recognizes, the 6 that all reputable football entities recognize, the 10 overall, but now the 7 that the Univ of Minnesota recognizes as well.
Should I officially declare that I recognize 8 or 9 of the titles, just to add to the confusion, lol?!
Why the Title in 1904, is my question, I guess?
In my own humble opinion, the title in 1903 included a more impressive game, the tie with Natk Champions Michigan. But I understand only 2 selectors have UMn as Champs in 1903, compared to something like 7 who have them as Champs in 1904.
Is it because of the scoring record in 1904? The 1911 Title was recognized by 8 selectors, more than the 1904 Title, so why is it not recognized by the University? Or was it because of who the selectors were? Are Billingsley or Patrick Premo considered a major selector or more authoritative?! Or was recognizing 1904's title just a judgement call the university made for their own reasons? Are they going to recognize the 1911 Title a couple years down the road? Was recognizing 1904's title, when they did, a publicity stunt or a way to simply remind people of Minnesota's storied past?!
I am just curious. Have been talking alot about dynasties in cfb lately, and I've referred to UMn's Recognized Dynasty from 1934-41 as its 2nd Dynasty, and pointed to Henry William's pre-WW1 teams from 1900-1917 as our 1st Dynasty, with 4 Titles included during that time. I always make note of how both Dynasties were slowed down or hurt by or stopped by World Wars, and I don't think I'm making anything up when I state that. Makes for interesting and fun discussion. So all that discussion just got me wondering about this question. I'd appreciate any feedback, positive or negative, about my main question or anything else contained in this post.
