According to one Becky fan who lives in the Cities.....

Required reading:
http://fringebowlteamblog.com/?q=blog/we-have-not-forgotten-why-we-hate

I went to a small D3 state school in wisconsin, native Minnesotan.

Honestly, there is a difference in the culture and people.
IMO it has to do with the alcohol culture and the packers, both breed more Carl Gerbschmidt types than most respectable WI natives care to admit to.

Case in point, here we have several badger trolls trying to convince people of their teams' superiority on a rival fans message board.

I have several freinds who are from WI, I live on the border and enjoy an occasional jaunt on to the wrong side of the river, but insufferable pukes like the ones visiting our site the past few days make up a well represented living stereotype in dairyland USA.


Good read. I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my original post.

I transferred to the U of M from UW-Milwaukee. The dynamic there is pretty interesting because the student body is made up of kids who hate being Madison's red-headed stepchild (despite an enrollment over 30,000), and kids who worship Madison as if it were their own school (for a multitude of reasons, few of which are good). I've had great discussions with some of my UWM friends regarding Madison and people who attend there. There is definitely a consensus that UW-Madison students (not all of them, of course) tend to view themselves as superior to those who attend other schools, UW system or otherwise. The arrogance surrounding Madison is one of the reasons I chose to cross the border.

The message bears repeating. After just 15 years of relative success in athletics, UW-Madison students and fans, especially the younger generations, think Madison is literally the center of the universe. I can't believe I considered going there during my high school years.
 

My sister, in Minnesota, had a party for her husbands birthday where they played beer pong and she let her kid's play, not drink though obviously (they're like 5 and 3 or something). At first I thought that was just awful, but then I went to Target the next day and in the toy section next to the board games there was something that I could only think to call a "beer pong" kit. Red solo cups, a little tray to make it easier to set up, and ping-pong balls. THEY MARKET IT AS A KID'S GAME! Granted, I live in New Ulm where they brew Schell's so beer is basically our economy. Maybe they don't do this else where?
 

I've lived and worked in IA, WI and MN, and I have to say the Iowa people were more obnoxious than the WI people when I said I was a Gopher fan.

But, as far as wearing your team colors in enemy territory, I have a theory.

I think, as a rule, MN fans tend to be a little less confrontational. They don't wear their Gopher gear because they know they'll get hassled, and they're trying to avoid a confrontation. (at least if they're on their own - if it's a group of fans, then the "strength in numbers" rule goes into effect.) On the other hand, my impression is that WI fans (and IA fans) are a little more "out there" in their fandom, so they are more willing to fly the colors on the other team's turf - because they don't care, or they secretly hope to start a confrontation. It's an "In Your Face" kind of thing.

Maybe to some degree. I wear something maroon and gold every day. Even have Gopher slumber pants. If anybody ever confronted me I would kindly tell them to F-off !
 

Yeah, I don't get the outrage here, or for that matter the original poster's assertion that the presence of rival apparel in the Twin Cities is somehow a fault of the U. No one graduates from here then moves on to bigger and better things in Iowa City or Madison. Both of those towns, nice as they may be, are basically universities with cities attached.
Seeing badger fans around town can be annoying, but it's the price we pay for playing the United States to madison's Mexico. I'll take that annoyance in exchange for the quality of life and ample opportunities that come with living here any day.
 

May I ask where all the talk of Wisconsinites and dead deer comes from? As a Wisconsinite who attended the U, it's hilarious to me that people from both states think they're much different at all from those on the other side of the river. I get that it's a joke and it's fun to rip on Badger fans, but the dead deer thing is just dumb.

Back to the topic, though, because the Twin Cities are part of one of the largest metros in the Midwest, of course there are going to be people living there who attended UND, NDSU, Iowa, ISU, Becky, etc. Those people flock to the area for a reason (i.e. it's awesome). But the notion that there's even a question as to who the preferred team in the area is...well that's dumber than the dead deer thing.

Recent news stories (within the last 3-4 years) there have been a few stories about Wisconsinites digging up dead females and committing sex acts and also doing such with dead deer.
 


There is definitely a consensus that UW-Madison students (not all of them, of course) tend to view themselves as superior to those who attend other schools, UW system or otherwise. The arrogance surrounding Madison is one of the reasons I chose to cross the border.

The message bears repeating. After just 15 years of relative success in athletics, UW-Madison students and fans, especially the younger generations, think Madison is literally the center of the universe. I can't believe I considered going there during my high school years.

I assume you are relatively young, so you don't realize that even when Madison sucked at athletics (i.e. when I went to school there), we (UW Madison students) considered ourselves superior to students who attended other schools. From living in the TC for a few years, I have to say this is probably no different from how UM students consider themselves compared to UW, Duluth, Mankato, etc.

FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while. However, after a while away, I then found myself living near-but-not-of Madison, which seems to be a good compromise.
 

Another early entry for ridiculous post of the year.

I'm sure the lack of MN gear in MADISON has nothing to do with the fact that there are hardly any corporations in Madison. How many places in Madison can you make six figures?

Conversely, OF COURSE there are going to be a lot of Badger fans living in MSP. There's no place in Wisky to make any money. If a Wisky grad wants to make any amount of money and live close to home, they have to work in MSP.

Tell me you can't be this stupid....
If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?
 

Simple, Wisconsin kids have no class. When your state is known for beer, serial killers and having not much of a life besides what a bunch of 20 year olds perform on the playing field that's what you get. If you ever go to Lambeau field just a different breed over there. I don't think we are similar at all except we have a state right next to each other.

If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?
 

If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?

Probably because the Minnesota students in Madison have enough common sense to wear the colors of the school they attend. If its one thing I can't stand at the U, its the kids from Wisky that feel as if they are cool because they wear badger stuff when they go to the U. I never understood the pleasure they get from doing that. One would think they would just go to madison if they felt so heavily about it.
 



If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?
Another possibility: Minnesota kids who are U of M fans don't go to WI.
Also, my mom's cousin went to Madison for school. His brother sent him a U of M shirt as a joke. He hid it and never wore it because he thought he would get assaulted if he wore it. So I offer another reason: Kids at U of M aren't psychopaths who assault people for wearing the wrong shirt.
 

May I ask where all the talk of Wisconsinites and dead deer comes from? As a Wisconsinite who attended the U, it's hilarious to me that people from both states think they're much different at all from those on the other side of the river. I get that it's a joke and it's fun to rip on Badger fans, but the dead deer thing is just dumb.
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There have been a few incidents in recent years or Wisconsinites getting arrested for having sex with deer. I dont have the time to look up the articles, but they have happened. I remember the story of one of the guys who was on probation for it was actually escorted out of a county fair for staring at the rear end of a cow and making weird noises. These stories do not paint a good picture for the people of that state.

And to the comment about no Gopher gear in Madison. Why would there be? The reason you see Badger gear here, is because when they graduate they come here for jobs. I can not think of a single person that went to the U and then moved to Madison or Milwaukee for a job. It rarely happens.

I hate to say it, but I did move the Madison for a job after college. Many times, I felt like the only Gopher fan. It got to the point where I would cheer for any team that played against the Badgers when I went to games. I even cheered for Iowa which I can't believe I am admitting out loud.
 

FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while. [/QUOTE]

This is so freaking true. God it was annoying as hell.

One of my personal favorite's was when there was the multiple Halloween riots and Mayor Dave was blaming it on everyone else but their own freaking students. Hell the first one was blamed on Minnesota students singing the Rouser after we swept them in Hockey at Madison.
 

Why is there more Gopher gear at Minnesota than Badger gear at Wisconsin? Because Gopher fans would rather go to the U of M, and apparently so would Badger fans.
 



If someone is a Badgers fan and attends the University of Minnesota, they obviously aren't fans of the University of Wisconsin. It seems really odd to separate the school from the team like that.
 

"FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while."

This is so freaking true. God it was annoying as hell.

One of my personal favorite's was when there was the multiple Halloween riots and Mayor Dave was blaming it on everyone else but their own freaking students. Hell the first one was blamed on Minnesota students singing the Rouser after we swept them in Hockey at Madison.

Mayor Dave's comment didn't have anything to do with liberal v. conservative. It was based on police reports of the disproportionate number of out-of-state (primarily Illinois and Minnesota) students at the gathering, some of whom were arrested along with UW students. I never heard the Rouser story, but do know that the last few events have been relatively disturbance-free.
 

Excuse me I’m Center of the Universe Mr. and Ms. Badgers. I’m trying my best keep quiet but can’t help. So, I have to say something.
How dumb it is to imply that wearing your school gear is only way to represent your school. It is ok to go beyond 500 miles radius of Madison. I used to live in NYC for awhile and I used to see more NYU gears than Columbia. Is that mean people at Columbia don’t care about their school? F No! It just depends on demographic and choices. If you want to see the nauseating habits about donning school gear, go to Columbus. You will see all kinds of scarlet and gray gears. If they can, they might wrap their God given stick with scarlet and gray too.
So, Badger homers could you please shut up for awhile? Making ridiculous statements is not going to make you smarter.
 

Mayor Dave's comment didn't have anything to do with liberal v. conservative. It was based on police reports of the disproportionate number of out-of-state (primarily Illinois and Minnesota) students at the gathering, some of whom were arrested along with UW students. I never heard the Rouser story, but do know that the last few events have been relatively disturbance-free.

I never said that that the riots had anything to do with liberal versus conservative.

I know Mayor Dave and the then Chief of Police and that was the reasoning that they gave for the first riots. Even the reporters that I know thought it was funny as hell.

The last few events where riot free because they finally put the party on lock down. I believe and don't quote me that they had 4 years straight of riots. You now have to pay a cover charge just to enter State Street and the cops are already in gear on the streets. The State Street Chamber was raising holy hell because they were getting sick and tired of the damage to their businesses. The numbers went down after they had the cover charge in place. I am not sure if they are still doing the cover charge since Soglin is the Mayor now, but I would not be surprised.
 

Original post:

Was looking to see what the reaction was on TCF selling beer and in the thread there was this clown who said he had been living I guess in
Mpls for the past two months and he see's nobody wearing Gopher gear, but alot of Becky gear. LOL....:clap:

Does anyone else see the humor in the comments in this thread about Badger fans posting here when this thread was started by one of your Village Idiots commenting on a post by one of our Village Idiots on a Badger Board?
 

Original post:



Does anyone else see the humor in the comments in this thread about Badger fans posting here when this thread was started by one of your Village Idiots commenting on a post by one of our Village Idiots on a Badger Board?

I was commenting on a very obvious BOLD FACE LIE. Go back to Beckyville and your contingent of clowns who live in a "Peter Pan" bubble.
 

If someone is a Badgers fan and attends the University of Minnesota, they obviously aren't fans of the University of Wisconsin. It seems really odd to separate the school from the team like that.
Or they wanted to go to school for a specific program (doesn't Minn. have a good music school or something?) Plus, I hate to go here, but there's always the age-old stigma that's been made famous over the years here in Wisconsin that says if Badger pups don't get into to Madison they take advantage of tuition reciprocity and head up to Minnesota instead. That's how you can be a Badger fan and attend the University of Minnesota. Furthermore, I'm just saying the OP isn't that far-fetched and I personally have seen it occur on a more than once-in-a-while basis. That's why as much as I'm sure it annoys you, the stigma lingers around- because to some level it's true. Or at least, people think it's true and it kind of happens because people think it's true. You can't really argue with that. For example, if you go to a basketball or hockey game in Madison - Badgers vs. Gophers- you always hear the "Safety School! Safety School!" or "Badger Rejects! clap-clap-clapclapclap" cheer. That's because the students and a lot of people over here really believe it. It's the stigma... it's common belief. It's conceited... it's arrogant. We think we're big brother. We think people around the country see us as big brother and the better school both on and off the field. Just like many other rival schools around the country. On the contrary, you never hear, "Gopher Rejects! Gopher Rejects!" or "Safety School" cheers by mass crowds when the Badgers play up in Minneapolis... because the stigma isn't there for you guys. It's not reciprocated like the tuition is. That arrogance isn't there because most people would feel silly because it wouldn't be true. I'm sure you don't particularly like it, but it's college athletics and that's how two schools that have paired themselves as rivals are set up. It's a side-by-side comparison. People are always looking for which of the two are better. And yes, athletics are a part of that- believe it or not. That's the whole root of this argument. Or whatever this argument has turned into.
 

Or they wanted to go to school for a specific program (doesn't Minn. have a good music school or something?) Plus, I hate to go here, but there's always the age-old stigma that's been made famous over the years here in Wisconsin that says if Badger pups don't get into to Madison they take advantage of tuition reciprocity and head up to Minnesota instead. That's how you can be a Badger fan and attend the University of Minnesota. Furthermore, I'm just saying the OP isn't that far-fetched and I personally have seen it occur on a more than once-in-a-while basis. That's why as much as I'm sure it annoys you, the stigma lingers around- because to some level it's true. Or at least, people think it's true and it kind of happens because people think it's true. You can't really argue with that. For example, if you go to a basketball or hockey game in Madison - Badgers vs. Gophers- you always hear the "Safety School! Safety School!" or "Badger Rejects! clap-clap-clapclapclap" cheer. That's because the students and a lot of people over here really believe it. It's the stigma... it's common belief. It's conceited... it's arrogant. We think we're big brother. We think people around the country see us as big brother and the better school both on and off the field. Just like many other rival schools around the country. On the contrary, you never hear, "Gopher Rejects! Gopher Rejects!" or "Safety School" cheers by mass crowds when the Badgers play up in Minneapolis... because the stigma isn't there for you guys. It's not reciprocated like the tuition is. That arrogance isn't there because most people would feel silly because it wouldn't be true. I'm sure you don't particularly like it, but it's college athletics and that's how two schools that have paired themselves as rivals are set up. It's a side-by-side comparison. People are always looking for which of the two are better. And yes, athletics are a part of that- believe it or not. That's the whole root of this argument. Or whatever this argument has turned into.

Ode to off season threads!
 

if Badger pups don't get into to Madison they take advantage of tuition reciprocity and head up to Minnesota instead.

Uhh, Minnesota's acceptance rate is 47.8% while UW-Madison's is 56.5%. Then again, wouldn't expect someone from such an easy school to get into to understand percentages or basic math :D.
 

Or they wanted to go to school for a specific program (doesn't Minn. have a good music school or something?) Plus, I hate to go here, but there's always the age-old stigma that's been made famous over the years here in Wisconsin that says if Badger pups don't get into to Madison they take advantage of tuition reciprocity and head up to Minnesota instead. That's how you can be a Badger fan and attend the University of Minnesota. Furthermore, I'm just saying the OP isn't that far-fetched and I personally have seen it occur on a more than once-in-a-while basis. That's why as much as I'm sure it annoys you, the stigma lingers around- because to some level it's true. Or at least, people think it's true and it kind of happens because people think it's true. You can't really argue with that. For example, if you go to a basketball or hockey game in Madison - Badgers vs. Gophers- you always hear the "Safety School! Safety School!" or "Badger Rejects! clap-clap-clapclapclap" cheer. That's because the students and a lot of people over here really believe it. It's the stigma... it's common belief. It's conceited... it's arrogant. We think we're big brother. We think people around the country see us as big brother and the better school both on and off the field. Just like many other rival schools around the country. On the contrary, you never hear, "Gopher Rejects! Gopher Rejects!" or "Safety School" cheers by mass crowds when the Badgers play up in Minneapolis... because the stigma isn't there for you guys. It's not reciprocated like the tuition is. That arrogance isn't there because most people would feel silly because it wouldn't be true. I'm sure you don't particularly like it, but it's college athletics and that's how two schools that have paired themselves as rivals are set up. It's a side-by-side comparison. People are always looking for which of the two are better. And yes, athletics are a part of that- believe it or not. That's the whole root of this argument. Or whatever this argument has turned into.
Having recently gone through the process selecting a college, I can tell you that UW-Madison and the U of M have VERY similar requirements.
 

Uhh, Minnesota's acceptance rate is 47.8% while UW-Madison's is 56.5%. Then again, wouldn't expect someone from such an easy school to get into to understand percentages or basic math :D.

So UM accepts a lower percentage of applicants, but that tells us absolutely nothing about whether one school is more difficult to get into. Without knowing something about the applicant pool, those percentages provide no useful information. A comparison of acceptance rates of applicants to both schools would provide clarity.

The links you provided do show that Wisconsin is the higher ranked institution, and a quick google search will show that the median ACT score of accepted students is higher at Wisconsin. As someone who has mastered "basic math," I don't need to point out to you that your percentages could simply mean that Minnesota receives a much larger number of applications from a less qualified applicant pool. Or was that your point?
 

So UM accepts a lower percentage of applicants, but that tells us absolutely nothing about whether one school is more difficult to get into. Without knowing something about the applicant pool, those percentages provide no useful information. A comparison of acceptance rates of applicants to both schools would provide clarity.

The links you provided do show that Wisconsin is the higher ranked institution, and a quick google search will show that the median ACT score of accepted students is higher at Wisconsin. As someone who has mastered "basic math," I don't need to point out to you that your percentages could simply mean that Minnesota receives a much larger number of applications from a less qualified applicant pool. Or was that your point?
How does someone who masquerades as an early 20th century dandy know what a Google search is? Or did you forget that you were logged in as your "bit"? Chip, chip, cheerio, old bean.

I conducted my own study at the Eden Prairie Mall on Saturday. I saw 7 people in Gopher gear, one in an Ohio State sweatshirt and no other college was represented. Therefore, I can say that it is an absolute fact that Ohio State is more popular in the Twin Cities than Wisconsin or Iowa, but neither one comes close to the number of fans who wear University of Minnesota apparel.
 

So UM accepts a lower percentage of applicants, but that tells us absolutely nothing about whether one school is more difficult to get into. Without knowing something about the applicant pool, those percentages provide no useful information. A comparison of acceptance rates of applicants to both schools would provide clarity.

The links you provided do show that Wisconsin is the higher ranked institution, and a quick google search will show that the median ACT score of accepted students is higher at Wisconsin. As someone who has mastered "basic math," I don't need to point out to you that your percentages could simply mean that Minnesota receives a much larger number of applications from a less qualified applicant pool. Or was that your point?

Yeah someone like you idiots love to selectively pick and choose things selectively to fit your argument.
1. The U has lower admission percentage. It doesn’t matter where these people came from. No one is applying a school because they have so much money and time for application process. It is an upward trend which is very recent. UW used to be more selective one. So deal with it. Stop acting like little sissy.
2. The U also has larger undergrad student body and yet lower admission %
3. Reciprocity argument is totally b.s now. People from Wisconsin are paying the same price as Minnesota residents. And yet students are still crossing the border to pay more expensive tuition. Should question why?
4. ACT or SAT is not be all and end all in 21st century. Try to update your admission knowledge please. I took SAT and could be careless about ACT.
5. The U has been making pretty good investments on facilities and I’m not big fan of all of these investments but I’ve to admit that it is very important factor. It is very different from eight years ago.
6. MASP metro area is appealing to many of us who want to work and go school at the same time. Being in larger metro area has its own advantages. It is extremely important to be ahead of your peers in this economy. One step ahead can be big deal for us. Enjoy your Madtown rituals tailored for college student life. Connection network Connection network Connection……….anyone?
7. For ranking, UW is better right now. The U didn’t make good efforts to increase its reputation until Bruiniks/Yudof took over.
Stop being out of loop with fluid situation between these two schools.
 

Yeah someone like you idiots love to selectively pick and choose things selectively to fit your argument.
1. The U has lower admission percentage. It doesn’t matter where these people came from. No one is applying a school because they have so much money and time for application process. It is an upward trend which is very recent. UW used to be more selective one. So deal with it. Stop acting like little sissy.
2. The U also has larger undergrad student body and yet lower admission %
3. Reciprocity argument is totally b.s now. People from Wisconsin are paying the same price as Minnesota residents. And yet students are still crossing the border to pay more expensive tuition. Should question why?
4. ACT or SAT is not be all and end all in 21st century. Try to update your admission knowledge please. I took SAT and could be careless about ACT.
5. The U has been making pretty good investments on facilities and I’m not big fan of all of these investments but I’ve to admit that it is very important factor. It is very different from eight years ago.
6. MASP metro area is appealing to many of us who want to work and go school at the same time. Being in larger metro area has its own advantages. It is extremely important to be ahead of your peers in this economy. One step ahead can be big deal for us. Enjoy your Madtown rituals tailored for college student life. Connection network Connection network Connection……….anyone?
7. For ranking, UW is better right now. The U didn’t make good efforts to increase its reputation until Bruiniks/Yudof took over.
Stop being out of loop with fluid situation between these two schools.

I put your reply in Google Translate to see if it could be read in any of the other 5 languages in which I am fluent, but alas, your particular patois wasn't recognized as coherent in any of them. Nevertheless, I shall do my best to interpret and respond to your erudite retort.

1. I am not acting like a sissy, I am acting like a early 20th century dandy, and frankly I don't appreciate the insult. I attended Old Nassau on a fencing scholarship; be thankful I do not challenge you to a duel.
2. Fascinating. Irrelevant, but fascinating.
3. I don't remember making any "reciprocity" argument, but a possible (likely) reason why Wisconsin residents choose to "[cross] the border to pay more expensive tuition" could be that those students didn't get accepted into Wisconsin. Doesn't really help your point, as it were.
4. I have no doubt you were "careless about ACT." I used ACT because 93% of applicants to Minnesota provided an ACT score versus 13% SAT, so I tip my hat to you, Mr. Iconoclast.
5, 6. I like toast with orange marmalade. Oh wait, we aren't discussing things completely unrelated to college admissions? My apologies.
7. The only "fluid situation" is the drool leaking from the corner of your mouth as you strain to make a relevant point.

Keep your pecker up,
Archie
 

I put your reply in Google Translate to see if it could be read in any of the other 5 languages in which I am fluent, but alas, your particular patois wasn't recognized as coherent in any of them. Nevertheless, I shall do my best to interpret and respond to your erudite retort.

1. I am not acting like a sissy, I am acting like a early 20th century dandy, and frankly I don't appreciate the insult. I attended Old Nassau on a fencing scholarship; be thankful I do not challenge you to a duel.
OT fencing question: I have a friend in the fencing club at my school and he told me that there are 4 different type of swords used. In a competition, are the match-ups chosen by the type of sword used or is there some other criteria?
 

I put your reply in Google Translate to see if it could be read in any of the other 5 languages in which I am fluent, but alas, your particular patois wasn't recognized as coherent in any of them. Nevertheless, I shall do my best to interpret and respond to your erudite retort.

1. I am not acting like a sissy, I am acting like a early 20th century dandy, and frankly I don't appreciate the insult. I attended Old Nassau on a fencing scholarship; be thankful I do not challenge you to a duel.
2. Fascinating. Irrelevant, but fascinating.
3. I don't remember making any "reciprocity" argument, but a possible (likely) reason why Wisconsin residents choose to "[cross] the border to pay more expensive tuition" could be that those students didn't get accepted into Wisconsin. Doesn't really help your point, as it were.
4. I have no doubt you were "careless about ACT." I used ACT because 93% of applicants to Minnesota provided an ACT score versus 13% SAT, so I tip my hat to you, Mr. Iconoclast.
5, 6. I like toast with orange marmalade. Oh wait, we aren't discussing things completely unrelated to college admissions? My apologies.
7. The only "fluid situation" is the drool leaking from the corner of your mouth as you strain to make a relevant point.

Keep your pecker up,
Archie

You may be fluent in five different languages but you’re not that good at making valid arguments.
Sounds like it is ok for you to insult other people but it is not ok to insult you. How poetic? Didn’t your parents teach you how to behave when you’re guest? You’re behavior is defiantly not appreciated in civil society. How about Newton’s Third Law? Respect is mutual. If you want to be respected, show some respect to other people. Don’t expect something different.
1. Larger student body usually translate more students are admitted each year. Here is an example
School A 5000 out of 20,00 25%
School B 2000 out of 20,00 10%
But you can’t see the point because you’re either too inapt to make some research or too conceited to admit the fact. If I were you, I would try to make an effort before I rebuff any clue as irrelevant fact. It is sad to see that your fascination did not translate into meaningful research. I hope your google translate tool can help you. You don’t need five different languages to connect the dots. You just need to have common sense to figure that one out.
2. Remember “ Possibly, likely, maybe, hypothetically, could be” are not the good words to support your point or argument. If you can come up with irrefutable statistic, please let us know. As Benjamin Disraeli once said statistic doesn’t lie. How many UW rejected or UM rejected are crossing the border? I expected you to question the situation, but you disappointingly jumped to the ill-judged conclusion.
3. I, Mr. Icnoclast, love the fact that I took SAT which is more difficult than ACT. If you want to start name calling game, please let me know. SAT verbal test did prepare for me on that one. I can come up with more intriguing names. I didn’t feel I’m too offended or insulted as I’m not a hypersensitive person.
By the way, I love the word icon which has very important role in art history. It is indeed a very beautiful Greek word. Some people will learn five different languages, but deep down in their heart they don’t appreciate them. Passion is a big difference here. Is superficial a good word choice for this situation?
4. & 6 are the best examples of denying just for the sake of denying. Not a wise admission officer, a cautious student and knowledgeable parents will say job opportunity, connection, networking, internship opportunity, and facility are things completely unrelated to college admission process. I’m speechless. I didn’t know that you’re that far from reality. Just Wow.
5. Going back to point No. 1. I, Archie, don’t appreciate the insult but I like to insult. Pinnacle of hypocrisy.

Try harder next time.
Prado
 




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