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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    Required reading:
    http://fringebowlteamblog.com/?q=blo...en-why-we-hate

    I went to a small D3 state school in wisconsin, native Minnesotan.

    Honestly, there is a difference in the culture and people.
    IMO it has to do with the alcohol culture and the packers, both breed more Carl Gerbschmidt types than most respectable WI natives care to admit to.

    Case in point, here we have several badger trolls trying to convince people of their teams' superiority on a rival fans message board.

    I have several freinds who are from WI, I live on the border and enjoy an occasional jaunt on to the wrong side of the river, but insufferable pukes like the ones visiting our site the past few days make up a well represented living stereotype in dairyland USA.

    Good read. I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my original post.

    I transferred to the U of M from UW-Milwaukee. The dynamic there is pretty interesting because the student body is made up of kids who hate being Madison's red-headed stepchild (despite an enrollment over 30,000), and kids who worship Madison as if it were their own school (for a multitude of reasons, few of which are good). I've had great discussions with some of my UWM friends regarding Madison and people who attend there. There is definitely a consensus that UW-Madison students (not all of them, of course) tend to view themselves as superior to those who attend other schools, UW system or otherwise. The arrogance surrounding Madison is one of the reasons I chose to cross the border.

    The message bears repeating. After just 15 years of relative success in athletics, UW-Madison students and fans, especially the younger generations, think Madison is literally the center of the universe. I can't believe I considered going there during my high school years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophfan22 View Post
    My sister, in Minnesota, had a party for her husbands birthday where they played beer pong and she let her kid's play, not drink though obviously (they're like 5 and 3 or something). At first I thought that was just awful, but then I went to Target the next day and in the toy section next to the board games there was something that I could only think to call a "beer pong" kit. Red solo cups, a little tray to make it easier to set up, and ping-pong balls. THEY MARKET IT AS A KID'S GAME! Granted, I live in New Ulm where they brew Schell's so beer is basically our economy. Maybe they don't do this else where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by short ornery norwegian View Post
    I've lived and worked in IA, WI and MN, and I have to say the Iowa people were more obnoxious than the WI people when I said I was a Gopher fan.

    But, as far as wearing your team colors in enemy territory, I have a theory.

    I think, as a rule, MN fans tend to be a little less confrontational. They don't wear their Gopher gear because they know they'll get hassled, and they're trying to avoid a confrontation. (at least if they're on their own - if it's a group of fans, then the "strength in numbers" rule goes into effect.) On the other hand, my impression is that WI fans (and IA fans) are a little more "out there" in their fandom, so they are more willing to fly the colors on the other team's turf - because they don't care, or they secretly hope to start a confrontation. It's an "In Your Face" kind of thing.
    Maybe to some degree. I wear something maroon and gold every day. Even have Gopher slumber pants. If anybody ever confronted me I would kindly tell them to F-off !

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    Yeah, I don't get the outrage here, or for that matter the original poster's assertion that the presence of rival apparel in the Twin Cities is somehow a fault of the U. No one graduates from here then moves on to bigger and better things in Iowa City or Madison. Both of those towns, nice as they may be, are basically universities with cities attached.
    Seeing badger fans around town can be annoying, but it's the price we pay for playing the United States to madison's Mexico. I'll take that annoyance in exchange for the quality of life and ample opportunities that come with living here any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 920/414 Gopher View Post
    May I ask where all the talk of Wisconsinites and dead deer comes from? As a Wisconsinite who attended the U, it's hilarious to me that people from both states think they're much different at all from those on the other side of the river. I get that it's a joke and it's fun to rip on Badger fans, but the dead deer thing is just dumb.

    Back to the topic, though, because the Twin Cities are part of one of the largest metros in the Midwest, of course there are going to be people living there who attended UND, NDSU, Iowa, ISU, Becky, etc. Those people flock to the area for a reason (i.e. it's awesome). But the notion that there's even a question as to who the preferred team in the area is...well that's dumber than the dead deer thing.
    Recent news stories (within the last 3-4 years) there have been a few stories about Wisconsinites digging up dead females and committing sex acts and also doing such with dead deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 920/414 Gopher View Post
    There is definitely a consensus that UW-Madison students (not all of them, of course) tend to view themselves as superior to those who attend other schools, UW system or otherwise. The arrogance surrounding Madison is one of the reasons I chose to cross the border.

    The message bears repeating. After just 15 years of relative success in athletics, UW-Madison students and fans, especially the younger generations, think Madison is literally the center of the universe. I can't believe I considered going there during my high school years.
    I assume you are relatively young, so you don't realize that even when Madison sucked at athletics (i.e. when I went to school there), we (UW Madison students) considered ourselves superior to students who attended other schools. From living in the TC for a few years, I have to say this is probably no different from how UM students consider themselves compared to UW, Duluth, Mankato, etc.

    FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while. However, after a while away, I then found myself living near-but-not-of Madison, which seems to be a good compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    Another early entry for ridiculous post of the year.

    I'm sure the lack of MN gear in MADISON has nothing to do with the fact that there are hardly any corporations in Madison. How many places in Madison can you make six figures?

    Conversely, OF COURSE there are going to be a lot of Badger fans living in MSP. There's no place in Wisky to make any money. If a Wisky grad wants to make any amount of money and live close to home, they have to work in MSP.

    Tell me you can't be this stupid....
    If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?

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    Simple, Wisconsin kids have no class. When your state is known for beer, serial killers and having not much of a life besides what a bunch of 20 year olds perform on the playing field that's what you get. If you ever go to Lambeau field just a different breed over there. I don't think we are similar at all except we have a state right next to each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by MorningCalmBadger View Post
    If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningCalmBadger View Post
    If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?
    Probably because the Minnesota students in Madison have enough common sense to wear the colors of the school they attend. If its one thing I can't stand at the U, its the kids from Wisky that feel as if they are cool because they wear badger stuff when they go to the U. I never understood the pleasure they get from doing that. One would think they would just go to madison if they felt so heavily about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningCalmBadger View Post
    If you read the post, (a skill I mistakenly assumed most of you possessed ) it's pretty clear that I am talking about undergraduate students on our campuses, not young professionas pilgrims marveling at the wonders of MinneaParis. (We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...) Here's the undeniable facts: The two universities are very similar. They are full of essentially the same type of kids from the same types of families. The U of MN is full of students from Wisconsin who wear their native Packer/Brewer gear. There are a lot who also wear their Badger gear and cheer for the Badgers. Like I said before, I run into them every time I come up. The U of WI is full of students from Minnesota who wear their native Vikings/Twins gear. The only thing that isn't reciprocated is UW students from Minnesota wearing Gopher gear. The only question is why?
    Another possibility: Minnesota kids who are U of M fans don't go to WI.
    Also, my mom's cousin went to Madison for school. His brother sent him a U of M shirt as a joke. He hid it and never wore it because he thought he would get assaulted if he wore it. So I offer another reason: Kids at U of M aren't psychopaths who assault people for wearing the wrong shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 920/414 Gopher View Post
    May I ask where all the talk of Wisconsinites and dead deer comes from? As a Wisconsinite who attended the U, it's hilarious to me that people from both states think they're much different at all from those on the other side of the river. I get that it's a joke and it's fun to rip on Badger fans, but the dead deer thing is just dumb.
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    There have been a few incidents in recent years or Wisconsinites getting arrested for having sex with deer. I dont have the time to look up the articles, but they have happened. I remember the story of one of the guys who was on probation for it was actually escorted out of a county fair for staring at the rear end of a cow and making weird noises. These stories do not paint a good picture for the people of that state.

    And to the comment about no Gopher gear in Madison. Why would there be? The reason you see Badger gear here, is because when they graduate they come here for jobs. I can not think of a single person that went to the U and then moved to Madison or Milwaukee for a job. It rarely happens.
    I hate to say it, but I did move the Madison for a job after college. Many times, I felt like the only Gopher fan. It got to the point where I would cheer for any team that played against the Badgers when I went to games. I even cheered for Iowa which I can't believe I am admitting out loud.

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    FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while. [/QUOTE]

    This is so freaking true. God it was annoying as hell.

    One of my personal favorite's was when there was the multiple Halloween riots and Mayor Dave was blaming it on everyone else but their own freaking students. Hell the first one was blamed on Minnesota students singing the Rouser after we swept them in Hockey at Madison.

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    Why is there more Gopher gear at Minnesota than Badger gear at Wisconsin? Because Gopher fans would rather go to the U of M, and apparently so would Badger fans.

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    If someone is a Badgers fan and attends the University of Minnesota, they obviously aren't fans of the University of Wisconsin. It seems really odd to separate the school from the team like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDFM View Post
    "FTR, I moved from Madison because I found the required liberalness tiresome after a while."

    This is so freaking true. God it was annoying as hell.

    One of my personal favorite's was when there was the multiple Halloween riots and Mayor Dave was blaming it on everyone else but their own freaking students. Hell the first one was blamed on Minnesota students singing the Rouser after we swept them in Hockey at Madison.
    Mayor Dave's comment didn't have anything to do with liberal v. conservative. It was based on police reports of the disproportionate number of out-of-state (primarily Illinois and Minnesota) students at the gathering, some of whom were arrested along with UW students. I never heard the Rouser story, but do know that the last few events have been relatively disturbance-free.
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