Weber needs to be replaced

[upchurch]

I have watched this guy for 3 years now and we have to get him out of there. he throws the ball 3 feet over Bennett's head in the flat. He can't escape the rush. Then he throws a MAJOR pick. Gray comes in and looks dyanamic. Give Gray ONE chance to have a series and watch the difference.

[TubbytownUSA]

Yes he needs to be gone. Absolutely gone.

[GophersInIowa]

Gray has yet to throw a pass in his college career.

[Great Plains Gopher]

Gray should get some snaps, no doubt. He looked like he was shot out of a cannon on that one run. The QBs should alternate some.

[howeda7]

No offense, but you sound like a moron. Weber has played well today. The "MAJOR" pick he threw was on 4th down genius. It would have been better for NW to knock it down.

Has Weber been great so far this year? No. But he hasn't been terrible either. It's a new offense. There are kinks. Screaming for Gray just makes you look like a typical over-reactive fan that always cries for the back-up QB. We have no idea what Gray can do, but it is a huge mistake to think he'd automatically be better.

[Dr.Don]

Yup, after leading a drive like that last TD drive, I think we should bench Weber.... :confused: Way to show why they are playing and you are complaining.

[Weisbrod]

No offense, but you sound like a moron. Weber has played well today. The "MAJOR" pick he threw was on 4th down genius. It would have been better for NW to knock it down.

Has Weber been great so far this year? No. But he hasn't been terrible either. It's a new offense. There are kinks. Screaming for Gray just makes you look like a typical over-reactive fan that always cries for the back-up QB. We have no idea what Gray can do, but it is a huge mistake to think he'd automatically be better.

Here we go again. Senseless name-calling. I love it!

[Weisbrod]

Yup, after leading a drive like that last TD drive, I think we should bench Weber.... :confused: Way to show why they are playing and you are complaining.

"Way to show why they are playing and you are complaining."
What???

[Dr.Don]

See the first post on this thread, Weisbrod.

[magpie]

Weber is average at best. To win a Big Ten Title, a team needs a quality QB. I agree with the original poster, Weber needs to be replaced.

[Dr.Don]

I beg to differ, but to win a Big Ten Title, the defense has to make some stops.

[skoalvikings]

another short miss by Weber.

[magpie]

I beg to differ, but to win a Big Ten Title, the defense has to make some stops.
No kidding, but we're talking about QB's in this thread, and a quality QB Weber is not.

[Dr.Don]

OK, magpie, then why aren't you out there showing them how to do it?

[magpie]

OK, magpie, then why aren't you out there showing them how to do it?

Intelligent response. :rolleyes:

[upchurch]

I may be a moron with my post masters degrees but I would like to see Mr. Gray throw ONE pass and let's see what happens. I just think Weber is average. Yes, he makes some good plays. But he makes a lot of poor ones as well. He is inconsistent. Give Gray a chance, that's all I'm asking.

[Handsome Pete]

OK, magpie, then why aren't you out there showing them how to do it?

This is the dumbest argument you can possibly make. And that is saying something because time and time again you've shown no ability to be anything other than old and illogical.

[wdgold]

Weber is average at best. To win a Big Ten Title, a team needs a quality QB. I agree with the original poster, Weber needs to be replaced.


I will give weber 2-3 games yet and then I may feel the same way you do. Until then I will withhold judgement.

[longtimegone]

give me gray, but what ever you do please keep moses a "piece of pot roast" on the bench he needs to mix in a salad. will he ever see the field? moses that is

[GopherinPhilly]

Here we go again. Senseless name-calling. I love it!

I thought we settled this on your last posts...Wesibrod is german for *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# bag. Eat *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# Troll.

[ads1963]

Did the Gophers Win?? YES! Can we be happy for a change!

[gopherguy05]

Did the Gophers Win?? YES! Can we be happy for a change!

HAHA!! You don't come around here much do you. It isn;t the hole if they can;t find something to whine about even in victory...

[GO4INLALALAND]

Weber certainly has consistency issues, but I do not think that Gray is quite ready to take over the offense for a full series. I think the coaches are handling the situation well. I think that by giving Gray more playing time he will become more comfortable with the speed and physicality (I love that word) of the game. I remember Gray's first big time hit caused him to fumble the ball. I think the coaches want Gray to get a better feel of D-1 football before throwing him in there for a full series. I do have a feeling that we will see Gray throw the ball next week against the Badgers and head the offense on two or three consecutive plays. I believe that as the season progresses so will Gray's role in the offense.

[calminnfan]

I think the expectations for Weber are greater this year, and do need to be tempered by having to adjust to a new offense. Also, they have been tinkering with his throwing motion, which has to be awkward for him. Otherwise, it is always the other guy who can bring the exciting charge and the big plays.

I do wonder what Weber will be like when Decker graduates though? It may be better either for him to see his worth in the draft, though I suspect he will be a low round pick if not UDFA. At this moment, he probably will be an UDFA and hope he can catch on to a pro teams PS.

The OL looked a little better today at least.

[ncgo4]

Let's see...the offense scored 35 pts. Yep, bad Qback.

[frozengopher]

Wow, I think it's time for a lot of people to spend less time on the message board and more time on the sidelines. You could be making so much money putting in the right players! Hurry up! Go! Apply for a coordinator position somewhere! Don't come back!

[Donovan]

Wow, I think it's time for a lot of people to spend less time on the message board and more time on the sidelines. You could be making so much money putting in the right players! Hurry up! Go! Apply for a coordinator position somewhere! Don't come back!

This is a fan forum, obviously people are going to have opinions on who should be playing and who shouldn't. Telling people that they should get hired as coordinators makes as much sense as the person telling someone to go on the field and show them how to play.

Regarding Weber, what is frustrating is the lack of development/improvement since he came on the scene as a freshman. As a freshman he looked pretty good. Sadly, he seems to be close to that same player. I'd also like to see Gray worked in more and more.

[Runext07]

Yes Weber needs to be replaced. I am sure that just because he has completed more passes then any other QB in Gopher history, does not mean he is any good. (He did under or over throw a couple of receivers today....) The "U" should yank his scollie and give it to some one who really deserves it and will complete every pass. How stupid is Brewster for even playing Weber? Even though the Big Ten announcers stated today how much faster and more talented the Gopher players are compared to prior teams, we should fire Brewster for not taking us to the Rose Bowl yet and for poor recruiting.

Or better yet, lets start attacking our players because of how they look! I am sure recruits will understand our fan base ripping athletes currently on scholarships. A lot of you posters on this website are morons and it is no wonder I am in favor of making some abortions retroactive.

[ncgo4]

The next step is to put Gray in the backfield and let him throw a couple of passes. It seemed to me that the coaching staff was setting up Wisconsin for just that. Every time he was in he had a QB delay up the middle for good yardage. We now know he's fast and runs strong, now lets find out if he can throw.

[tikited]

You can certainly have the opinion that our starting qb should be benched in favor of a qb that has never thrown a pass, but you certainly would be wrong. Not a moron, just wrong. Gray needs to play some, but can we see what he can do with at least one pass before he is knighted?

[cduff]

IMO, Weber is an average QB right now. Nothing more, nothing less. He makes some nice throws, but makes more bad decisions than he should and misses the occasional easy throw. But for those of you calling for a change, why?

- We are 3-1 and our only loss is a game we were supposed to lose.
- The offense has scored at least 20 in every game, despite the fact we had no running game for the first 3 games.
- Who is going to replace him? MarQueis gray, who has probably taken 1 snap from under center in his life?

Look, there is no question Gray is the future at QB, but it's not going to be this year. He is probably not even close to be ready to be a starter, considering we're trying to put in a pro style offense. The coaches are doing the right thing by bringing Gray in slowly and putting him in positions where he can succeed. Next year if Gray keeps progressing, then there may be more of a controversy. But for now it's not even close.

[frozengopher]

This is a fan forum, obviously people are going to have opinions on who should be playing and who shouldn't. Telling people that they should get hired as coordinators makes as much sense as the person telling someone to go on the field and show them how to play.

Someone left their sarcasm detector at home...

[Word]

I think Weber's an above average college quarterback. I think he was better when he was able to run more, though. To top it off, he's learning a new offense. Who's to say Gray would do well as a passer in this offense (as a freshman)? Hopefully the running attack can repeat today's performance on a more consistent basis and that will open things up for Weber.

[forestlaker]

It's hard for people on these Gopher Sites(GH or GI) to just be Gopher Supporters. Instead, people think their opinions have meaning. When we lose, it is next to impossible to check out these boards because your feeling bad about a loss and then you have to read everyones doom and gloom. But even if we win, people think they know 1000 times more than they do and it brings gloom to an otherwise enoyable day. Take it one game at a time and enoy the ride.

[jags1998]

This is a fan forum, obviously people are going to have opinions on who should be playing and who shouldn't. Telling people that they should get hired as coordinators makes as much sense as the person telling someone to go on the field and show them how to play.

Regarding Weber, what is frustrating is the lack of development/improvement since he came on the scene as a freshman. As a freshman he looked pretty good. Sadly, he seems to be close to that same player. I'd also like to see Gray worked in more and more.

You thought he looked better during the 1 win season than in the 7 win season? I'll give you that the end of last year wasn't pretty but give him some credit for winning 6 more games last year.

I'm fine with Gray being "worked in" as many have stated but as I haven't been to practice every day like many people on this board, about all I have to go on was that he was a good player in HS and he had a big fumble in the home opener. (And I guess he can catch the ball).

[JPIIGopher]

Weber needs to be replaced

You've got to be kidding me:banghead:

1. New offense

2. Bad offensive line, bad running game, not a lot of time.

3. Undisputed leader on this team.

3. Gray has never taken snaps under center.

4. Gray's strength is his ability to run, not his accuracy.

5. If you've watched practices it's clear who the better passer is and it's not even close right now.

The absolute worst thing this coaching staff could do, and this is theoretical cause it ain't gonna happen, is pull Weber. Gray needs to learn how to pass accurately. He needs time to learn this offense up and down. The last thing you want is a freshman learning on the fly, make a ton of mistakes, and lose his confidence. Gray has the opportunity to be a star if he works on his passing accuracy and touch. He has the arm strength and the speed to be elite.

[MKE_Gopher]

The concern I had today was the pick and another dropped pick in the 2nd half were both on play action plays that he just didn't get the ball off fast enough. Especially on the dropped INT, our guy (I forget who) was open on the 10 yd out and the CB jumped the route because Webber waited for him to make his cut instead of throwing it to a spot and letting his receiver go get it. Gotta get that ball out, o-line held fairly well today. He can make the reads, just has to trust it more

[nc2mn]

How long it would be for someone to start a thread like this. I'm fine with Weber, and then using Gray for a change of pace.

[year of the gopher]

This just in, Weber is not perfect. We MUST have a perfect QB on the bench just wasting away that could come in and display his perfectness.

[Torres9]

This is a ridiculous argument. Weber is not perfect, but he's one of the best QBs in the B10. Remember, he has a rough OLine and a patchwork group of runners behind him. Better believe the cowfeckers to the east would take him.

The better argument is that Gray looks an absolute hoss. What an athlete, deserves more snaps.

[What Up Guy]

This thread is absurd. Weber is the man. Gray will have his time and I like mixing him in, but Weber is the best QB I have ever seen play for the Gophers by a mile. Good leader, good player who is doing well without much of a running game usually...he has played in multiple offenses, he is what, 2, 3 time captain??

How can you think about replacing him??? Ridiculous. Yeah, Gray looks nice in there and gives us something different, I like Gray a lot and I like Weber a lot. Good problem to have. IMO I would like us to use Weber/Gray like Florida did with Leak/Tebow. 85% Weber, 15% Gray, especially on the short yardage stuff and for designed runs.

[gopherguy05]

How long it would be for someone to start a thread like this. I'm fine with Weber, and then using Gray for a change of pace.

Guarenteed if Weber either throws a pick, gets sacked or makes even the tiniest mistake in the game, its gonna happen. I'm hoesntly surprised it took until after the game this week. I think it will be up by the end of the game next week should Weber heaven forbid throw a pick.... we all know good quarterbacks never throw interceptions....

[littlebigboy]

Whats up, is this the 1st and only QB you have seen????? We have to accept that Weber will be the QB this yr and he probably should be, because Fr. are not ready for the BT. That being said I like the way they are bringing Grey along. I agree that Weber is overrated as a QB. He eye-balls 90% of the time, he is late on most of his throws, and can't seem to throw on time,probably because he locks on so much, if the receiver he is on is not open, he's in trouble. He hit Brandon Green over the middle today way late, it was completed, but was very late. He has not improved in this area in 3 yrs., so I think what we see is what we get for now. The kid is a leader, so I hope this will help makeup for the technical faults.

[Schnoodler]

These threads are both agravating and hilarious. You people need to take a dose of reality and look what the other big tens are using. They show a flash here and there but then somehow mysteriously weber ends up with better stats then most. The bottome line is we are damn lucky to have a quarterback as good as Weber. And no he is not perfect, but every time I watch other teams play I always come away thinking we're pretty lucky he's ours.

[Mulligan]

I love it when people who simply watch a game have such definite opinions about whom the coaches should or shouldn't play. Sitting in front of a TV set or in the stands for several hours a week certainly makes one more qualified than a coach who probably puts in a 10 hour day. Do you know what Gray does in practice? Do you know how much of the game plan Gray is ready to handle? Do you know when Weber looks bad if it was entirely his fault or if someone else missed his assignment?

It's an opinion board but I think I'll assume that some guy who has made it to this level as a coach knows more about his job than I do. Gray looks like a stud, but the coaching staff obviously doesn't feel like he's ready to do more at the moment. I don't think they need to see him throw one pass in a game to see how he'll do; and I suspect they've got some plans for him.

[littlebigboy]

we're lucky Decker is ours. We have other good receivers that very seldom get the ball. I would trade for Kafka!

[Schnoodler]

Kafka did look good. I think he might be my new #1 B10 QB. Having a tough time from there, use to be Williams but the guy plays like he's on ludes.

[What Up Guy]

Kafka did look good. I think he might be my new #1 B10 QB. Having a tough time from there, use to be Williams but the guy plays like he's on ludes.

Kafka is solid but it has a lot to do with the offensive system he is in.

And to the Weber hater...I am in my mid-20's so please name a QB from the 90s to now that we have had that is better than Weber? Cockerham? Asad? Travis Cole? Sauter? Am I missing anyone?

[WAGopher]

Cupito