Chavez likes Obama

[bga1]

The socialist Venezualan dictator seems to like Obama. Hmmmmm

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5864ME20090907

I think he likes his, ummm, openness to change shall we say. And, after all, what's not to like after Obama sided with the exiled Honduran leader, who is also a Chavez bobo.

[Gopher4Life]

And yet some of us insist on ridiculing so many Americans who are sincerely frightened.

[Rouser]

Wow...this board is getting scary. What kind of brainwashing is going on these days...?

[GopherRock]

The only thing the GOP has left are fear and cheap slogans to print on buttons and hand out at the State Fair.

[bga1]

The only thing the GOP has left are fear and cheap slogans to print on buttons and hand out at the State Fair.

It's good that you express your feelings. But getting to substance, America has always stood for:

competition
work ethic
the ability to go as far as one's ability and effort could take one
self reliance
faith
freedom
democracy
individual accomplishment
justice

just to name a few.....

Since you have expressed your knowledge of the GOP can you enlighten me on how specifically through policies this administration has furthered our nation's traditions?

[Jike Spingleton]

Wow...this board is getting scary. What kind of brainwashing is going on these days...?


Waaaaaaay late to the party, Rouser. But stay tuned - the good part comes when they slit their wrists in solidarity.

[diehard]

"But stay tuned - the good part comes when they slit their wrists in solidarity."

My party has been doing that for the last 6 months in Washington. Pelosi is as popular as Cheney. Obama is tanking. He provides little leadership, just words. He is getting close to 3 and a half years of lame duck. And the GOP offers no effective alternative. The blue dogs are absent. Sooner or later the blue dogs have to step up and save the party from..., well you know. Colin Peterson, for one, needs to step up and assume leadership in this mess. He for one proves Minnesota isn't hopeless in the wake on nominating Al Franken who ended up getting elected.

[jamiche]

It's good that you express your feelings. But getting to substance, America has always stood for:

competition
work ethic
the ability to go as far as one's ability and effort could take one
self reliance
faith
freedom
democracy
individual accomplishment
justice

just to name a few.....

Since you have expressed your knowledge of the GOP can you enlighten me on how specifically through policies this administration has furthered our nation's traditions?

It doesn't surprise me that there isn't anything on your list that references the common good or obligations to the less fortunate. I didn't see a bridge from "me" to "we". It is also ironic that every item on that list, the things that presumably make up the core of your value system, applies to Obama's life. Yet you despise him. I don't get it.

[GopherHomer]

I hear Chavez also likes tacos...Better ban them!

[Gopher4Life]

>>...every item on that list, the things that presumably make up the core of your value system, applies to Obama's life.<<

That's hog wash, jamiche.

[bga1]

It doesn't surprise me that there isn't anything on your list that references the common good or obligations to the less fortunate. I didn't see a bridge from "me" to "we". It is also ironic that every item on that list, the things that presumably make up the core of your value system, applies to Obama's life. Yet you despise him. I don't get it.

The common good is best arrived at when people compete to do the best they can. Part of the American spirit is then to be charitable. Oddly enough those who have conservative views have been found through studies to be FAR MORE CHARITABLE!

If you start out with the goal being the common good you get Cuba or Russia. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As far as Obama the odd part about him is that he indeed is the American dream in the way he has lived. Unfortunately his world view is the total opposite. I believe that it is his arrogance that makes him believe he can be the hero that delivers fairness for all. These utopian notions always end in ruin. Always.

[diehard]

In the end (reality) Obama is promoting graft, corruption, and incompetance. Always the end result of excessive government involvement. I continue to be amazed that anyone supports that. Smart government is possible and desirable. This craziness isn't smart or common sense. It is San Franciso styled ideology, and yes there are those that support that.

[jamiche]

>>...every item on that list, the things that presumably make up the core of your value system, applies to Obama's life.<<

That's hog wash, jamiche.

Which ones don't?

[jamiche]

The common good is best arrived at when people compete to do the best they can. Part of the American spirit is then to be charitable. Oddly enough those who have conservative views have been found through studies to be FAR MORE CHARITABLE!

If you start out with the goal being the common good you get Cuba or Russia. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As far as Obama the odd part about him is that he indeed is the American dream in the way he has lived. Unfortunately his world view is the total opposite. I believe that it is his arrogance that makes him believe he can be the hero that delivers fairness for all. These utopian notions always end in ruin. Always.

There are many different kinds of common good, none of which were referenced in your list.

Do you think that bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan isn't a utopian notion, beej?

[bga1]

There are many different kinds of common good, none of which were referenced in your list.

Do you think that bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan isn't a utopian notion, beej?



Not utopian - just the right thing to do. Meanwhile as we were offering the opportunity for freedom there we now have a President who rapidly threatens to reduce ours through his own fundamental changes.

[diehard]

The Common Good is not a common term with it's definition TBD. The Common Good is specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Sometimes I doubt most are educated well enough to be aware of that. America is really dumbed down. We must repair that with most haste.

Again we little or no understanding of the Afghanistan situation and near complete miscomprehension of the accurate history of the Iraq conflict (no we can't call them wars).

[Gopher4Life]

jamiche,

I hate to break it to you, but the lying, sneaking, Chicago-style, ACORN-serving, regular in a hate-spewing church is not much of a poster child for very many of those American attributes. More often than not, he's been a highly skilled, smooth-talking slickster...in short, a typical politician.