100 years from now, who will be remembered?

[shinyclothes]

Michael (Jackson) or Mic Jagger. Possibly both, but my moneys on Mic. Did Mike ever keep an audience waiting from 10 pm to 4 am and then come out and say 4 words (Welcome to the breakfast show) and have the entire packed house floating on air two minutes later. I don't think so.

Madison Square Garden, 1969, "The Breakfast Show":

http://tinyurl.com/ng9be5

[UpnorthGo4]

The important question is whose songs will be more popular in 100 years? No contest. Quite a few Rolling Stones songs will still be listened to in 100 years. Not many of the other guy's songs will be.

[Schnoodler]

One only need to look at history to answer this question.

Which popular music icon is most remembered from the turn of the last century??

The answer is....ummm....well.....ahhh neither.

[UpnorthGo4]

Schnoods, following is a review of a collection of songs sung by popular singers in the 1930's:

Part of a 1987 Columbia reissue sampler series that was later also issued on CD, this set has 16 vintage recordings that are presented roughly in chronological order. There is one selection apiece from the who's-who of 1930s jazz vocalists: Ethel Waters, Louis Armstrong ("Blue Again"), Jack Teagarden, Fats Waller ("I'm Crazy 'Bout My Baby"), Bing Crosby & the Mills Brothers (the alternate take of "Dinah"), the Boswell Sisters, Connie Boswell, Ella Fitzgerald ("All My Life"), Don Redman, the Spirits of Rhythm, Chick Bullock (definitely a ringer!), Louis Prima, Henry "Red" Allen, Mildred Bailey, Ivie Anderson ("Rose of the Rio Grande"), Billie Holiday ("Mean to Me") and Midge Williams. Virtually all of the numbers are well worth hearing, and although most have been reissued in more complete fashion elsewhere, this is a very enjoyable sampler. ~ Scott Yanow, All Music Guide

These singers where popular 70 to 80 years ago. Is there any doubt that people will still be listening to these songs 20 to 30 years from now?

[Gopher4Life]

Jagger is crude, over-rated, and can't sing a lick. Jackson will be remembered as the King of Pop.

[shinyclothes]

Jagger's been remembered, and his (and Keith's) song's repeated daily for neigh unto 50 years already. I wouldnt write him off with a 50 yr. head start. Shakespeare wasnt much regarded until the 200 years after his time. Its pop shlock vs. revolutionary rock, no contest.

[bigtenchamps1899]

say 4 words (Welcome to the breakfast show)

am i missing something here?

[Gopher4Life]

shiny,

Unlike Shakespeare, Jagger's work will be less appreciated with time...unless taste continues downward. I'll credit Jagger's massive accomplishment with modest skills, but what's that say about the listeners?

[nooram]

neither

adam lambert, all the way

[UpnorthGo4]

Top 500 Rock Albums of All Time
- Rolling Stones: 10
- Michael Jackson: 3

Top 500 Rock Songs of All Time
- Rolling Stones: 14
- Michael Jackson: 3

Gopher4Life, you are letting your political leanings affect your musical judgment. I think you are part of a small minority of people who agree with you. I would bet that you personally know far more people who own Rolling Stone CD's than Michael Jackson CD's. In 100 years Mick Jagger will be remembered for his music and the huge influence that he and the Stones had during the 1960's and 1970's. Michael Jackson will be remembered for his legal troubles and weirdness as much as for his music.

[Schlic Daddy]

Top 500 Rock Albums of All Time
- Rolling Stones: 10
- Michael Jackson: 3

Top 500 Rock Songs of All Time
- Rolling Stones: 14
- Michael Jackson: 3

Gopher4Life, you are letting your political leanings affect your musical judgment. I think you are part of a small minority of people who agree with you. I would bet that you personally know far more people who own Rolling Stone CD's than Michael Jackson CD's. In 100 years Mick Jagger will be remembered for his music and the huge influence that he and the Stones had during the 1960's and 1970's. Michael Jackson will be remembered for his legal troubles and weirdness as much as for his music.

The problem with that statement is that MJ was not a rock singer...he was a pop singer. I honestly believe more people will know who Michael Jackson was 100 years from now than Mick Jaeger. MJ was the Elvis of our generation. For people in their 40s and 50s right now, I think more know the Rolling Stones. I'm in my 20s and I know nearly all of my friends and others I know who are in their 30s that have Michael Jackson cassette tapes (seriously) but many probably don't know who Mick Jaeger is. So I'm guessing you're probably in that 40-50 age range and I'm sure many more have Rolling Stones CDs than Michael Jackson. But my age group is definitely dominated by Jackson.

BTW, totally agree that he will be remembered for his weirdness as much as his music. But he was still an amazing singer/dancer/entertainer. If you're talking about a better musician, I might go with Mick. If you want a better singer/dancer/entertainer, I'll go with MJ. JMO

[shinyclothes]

I'll admit their songwriting outside that period was somewhat diminished (though still excellent). But Let It Bleed, Sympathy for the Devil, Sticky Fingers, and finally Exile on Main Street are imo the best four rock albums of all time and all produced back to back in that golden era. I'll even venture that those all-conquering works belong in a special category beyond Rock, maybe Shakespearean Rock, signifying their incisive brilliance, cutting through the word-bound bars confining our regimented existence like hot knives through butter.:rockon:

[Gopher4Life]

Upnorth,

>>you are letting your political leanings affect your musical judgment.<<

Not so. I don't suppose my politics agree with either of them.

I have far more of the Stones in my personal collection than MJ, as if it matters. Like him or not, MJ was an artist in every sense of the word. He will always be remembered as the King of Pop. All I can do is offer my sympathy to any fan who thinks of Jagger as any sort of real musician. He's a raunchy front man for a loud garage band.

[Costa Rican Gopher]

Now much will have changed in 100 years from today, imo.

If you ask who's music will stand the test of time and be getting rotation on classic stations 100 years from now, it'll still be the Rolling Stones.

If you ask who'll be more famous in terms of pop culture in 100 years it'll still be Michael Jackson.

The Rolling Stones are one of the greatest bands of all times, but are a speck in the universe compared to Michael Jackson's fame.