Correcting a mistake: In 2016 NCAA will go back to calling it "1st" and "2nd" rounds

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Correcting a mistake: In 2016 NCAA will go back to calling it "1st" and "2nd" rounds

Good move by the NCAA, it's silly to call the opening Thursday-Friday games "2nd round" and the Saturday-Sunday games "3rd round."

Gophers will have to swap out their (2013) NCAA Tournament banner, however. It notes "3rd round."

The press release:

"Following the creation of the First Four, the committee changed the name of the Thursday-Friday games from the first round to the second, and the Saturday-Sunday games from the second round to the third, in an attempt to clarify any misperceptions that First Four games were so-called “play-in” games.

"After four consecutive years of a First Four winner advancing to at least the third round, highlighted by VCU’s trip to the Final Four in 2011 and Sweet 16 appearances by LaSalle in 2013 and Tennessee in 2014, the committee voted last week to rename the opening weekend’s games to first- and second-round games, beginning with the 2016 championship.

“'The purpose of referring to those games as the second and third rounds was to sway people to use first round or better yet First Four when referencing the games in Dayton,'” said Dan Gavitt, NCAA vice president for men’s basketball. “No one in our membership was fond of ‘play-in’ games because of the implication that you had to win those games to make the tournament, which couldn’t be further from the truth. People now understand the First Four is the start of the tournament, so it will continue to be branded as such, and the weekend games will now go back to being the first two rounds.”
 

Good move by the NCAA, it's silly to call the opening Thursday-Friday games "2nd round" and the Saturday-Sunday games "3rd round."

Gophers will have to swap out their (2013) NCAA Tournament banner, however. It notes "3rd round."

The press release:

"Following the creation of the First Four, the committee changed the name of the Thursday-Friday games from the first round to the second, and the Saturday-Sunday games from the second round to the third, in an attempt to clarify any misperceptions that First Four games were so-called “play-in” games.

"After four consecutive years of a First Four winner advancing to at least the third round, highlighted by VCU’s trip to the Final Four in 2011 and Sweet 16 appearances by LaSalle in 2013 and Tennessee in 2014, the committee voted last week to rename the opening weekend’s games to first- and second-round games, beginning with the 2016 championship.

“'The purpose of referring to those games as the second and third rounds was to sway people to use first round or better yet First Four when referencing the games in Dayton,'” said Dan Gavitt, NCAA vice president for men’s basketball. “No one in our membership was fond of ‘play-in’ games because of the implication that you had to win those games to make the tournament, which couldn’t be further from the truth. People now understand the First Four is the start of the tournament, so it will continue to be branded as such, and the weekend games will now go back to being the first two rounds.”

They are absolutely play-in games, regardless of what the NCAA wants to call them. It is absurd to refer to a win by a 16 seed over a 16 seed as a "tournament win" the same way you would a game in one of the real rounds. There should be two ways to win tournament games: beat a good team or have earned a game against a weak team by getting a high seed. If you can score a "tournament win" against a 16 seed, it should be because you earned that game by deserving a 1 seed.
 

A thought I think would be interesting...maybe have some sort of qualifying bracket to the NCAA tournament? Kind of what they do in tennis, the top maybe 50 teams make it in directly, and the borderline teams play in a qualifying bracket to make it into the NCAA tournament. That would essentially be an expanded version of the First Four, but I wouldn't want the teams that lose in said qualifying to be able to say they "made" the tournament.
 

Gophers will have to swap out their (2013) NCAA Tournament banner, however. It notes "3rd round."

Why in the world would they replace a banner for a name change well after the tournament they played in. It was what it was.
 



Valid point. Just a suggestion!

Ahhhhh got ya. I thought it was planned, not just a suggestion...

Would be like telling K-State to send in there mighty Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl trophy so they can send them out a fresh Cactus Bowl one..
 

So 'play-in games' hurt some feelings. WTF.....give em a damn ribbon.
 


What is funny is that the NCAA probably paid some marketing firm a ton of money to come up with the idea of not calling them play-in games.

Probably the same firm who coined "Legends and Leaders".
 



What is funny is that the NCAA probably paid some marketing firm a ton of money to come up with the idea of not calling them play-in games.

Probably the same firm who coined "Legends and Leaders".

:clap:
 





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