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Goldensports is reporting Minnesota is the only FBS team to have a 6 win improvement from last year's record. very impressive to me....
Something else to think about...
This program won 6 games the year before last so it's a one game improvement over 2 years. There's no excuse for 1-11 last year. That's the only reason 7-5 looks so good right now.
Something else to think about...
This program won 6 games the year before last so it's a one game improvement over 2 years. There's no excuse for 1-11 last year. That's the only reason 7-5 looks so good right now.
I'm no Masonite but my God, we're ready to rename University Ave "Brewster Way" after he won ONE more game than Mason did in his final year....
Every time someone posts those records for Alvarez, Ferentz, Barnett, and Zook I always ask....of those 4 guys, how many inherited a program that just went to a bowl game and did so 5 of the 6 previous years? Guess what? Nobody ever answers because they're in a box.
Those 4 coaches took over programs that were already rock bottom. There was nowhere to go but up. Brewster took over a program that won 6 games. They hit rock bottom on his watch. I'm not saying it can't or won't get better but people seem to forget this stuff. I'm no Masonite but my God, we're ready to rename University Ave "Brewster Way" after he won ONE more game than Mason did in his final year....
Art-You're right and you're wrong. You're definitely right that the 2006 team won 6 games under Mason. But the 2007 team didn't return the 3 year starter at QB or have a ready replacement in the upper class. The team also lost it's best offensive player in TE Speath. We returned the leading rusher but inadequate depth behind him when he got hurt (or started fumbling). Defensively the team lost definitely their best and probably their second or third best returning starter due to an off field issue and then had to play with an injured Van De Steeg throughout the season.
So yes, we went to a bowl in 2006 but the team in 2007 didn't have the talent of 2006 either due to graduation, injuries with a lack of depth, or other issues. However, we should have won more than one game. The team turned the ball over way too much and even though the defense was consistently overmatched they were poorly coached.
I'm not ready to annoint Brewster as anything other than a great recruiter and a guy that tries to fix problems he has identified (Roof last year, Davis this year). The measure of Brewster is going to be wins, losses and bowl appearance, the same measure for every college coach. But he still has time to get his players in to the system before he has a mandate to win now.
The biggest loss from the 2006 team was Dominic Jones, who was the best and most valuable player on that 2006 squad. Add in starters Keith Massey and Alex Daniels getting the boot, the graduation losses and other attrition, and you have a terrible team coming back for 2007. Mason might have coaxed that group to a 4- or 5-win season, but they would not have a bowl game. Brewster got them one win, partially because of the transition and a new coach, etc.
Every time someone posts those records for Alvarez, Ferentz, Barnett, and Zook I always ask....of those 4 guys, how many inherited a program that just went to a bowl game and did so 5 of the 6 previous years? Guess what? Nobody ever answers because they're in a box.
Those 4 coaches took over programs that were already rock bottom. There was nowhere to go but up. Brewster took over a program that won 6 games. They hit rock bottom on his watch. I'm not saying it can't or won't get better but people seem to forget this stuff. I'm no Masonite but my God, we're ready to rename University Ave "Brewster Way" after he won ONE more game than Mason did in his final year....
blah, blah, blah. same posts over and over.
Everyone wants to win now, and they do not have the patients...
What about Michigan, Art? There was infinitely more talent in the coffers when RR took over (read my previous post re: beating FLA, etc.). They made the same type of transition to a spread and different defensive strategies, totally different staff, etc. And...
What happened, genius? There were no problems at all, right? The winningest program ever, with countless high school all-americans on the roster, the benchmark of success for our conference, and they fell flat on their asses this year. Maybe they didn't go 1-11, but the talent in that program isn't even comparable to what Brew had here last year.
We get it. You are not a Gopher fan. No need to keep posting here. What kind of obsession do you have to post over 2400 times on a rival's message board? Absolutely pathetic. Go away.
Well, Rich Rodriguez has proved he can win on the big stage (see West Virginia). He inherited a team that beat Florida in a New Year's Day bowl. He went 3-9 this year. Based on your analysis, Rodriguez should have been able to get to a big bowl game. Dick Rod basically proves that when a new coach comes in with a new system and a new staff, there are going to be some major bumps in the road. I can guarantee that Rodriguez will have Michigan at or near the top of the Big 10 next year or the year after.Every time someone posts those records for Alvarez, Ferentz, Barnett, and Zook I always ask....of those 4 guys, how many inherited a program that just went to a bowl game and did so 5 of the 6 previous years? Guess what? Nobody ever answers because they're in a box.
Those 4 coaches took over programs that were already rock bottom. There was nowhere to go but up. Brewster took over a program that won 6 games. They hit rock bottom on his watch. I'm not saying it can't or won't get better but people seem to forget this stuff. I'm no Masonite but my God, we're ready to rename University Ave "Brewster Way" after he won ONE more game than Mason did in his final year....
Every time someone posts those records for Alvarez, Ferentz, Barnett, and Zook I always ask....of those 4 guys, how many inherited a program that just went to a bowl game and did so 5 of the 6 previous years? Guess what? Nobody ever answers because they're in a box.
Those 4 coaches took over programs that were already rock bottom. There was nowhere to go but up. Brewster took over a program that won 6 games. They hit rock bottom on his watch. I'm not saying it can't or won't get better but people seem to forget this stuff. I'm no Masonite but my God, we're ready to rename University Ave "Brewster Way" after he won ONE more game than Mason did in his final year....
Personally, I feel Brewster has already been a great get for this program for one simple reason: He has gotten top players to WANT TO BE GOPHERS. This is something that has not been the case in a long time. There is excitement, if not from media and some fans, at the very least from players around the program and in the state, who feels something special is building up here and want to play here. The fact that we can even discuss the remote chance of landing a guy like Seantrel already speaks volumes to the affect of Brewster. This program hasn't seen this in ages. How people can be so utterly negative about this is a little baffling to me. Brewster has to prove to be a true coach on the field, yes, but after two years of head coaching experience, I'd say he's getting a heck of a lot better, and I expect him to continue to get better. In the meantime, he can keep rolling in highly recruited talent to the program and keep infusing top 25 classes into the Twin Cities, which brings me to my next point.
Let's say Brewster flops. He doesn't get the job done. We decide to fire him. I, for one, have to believe that this job would be quite appealing to a coach who can take all this talent Brewster brought in and coach it up to be a winner. This program was starved of talent, and Brewster has already started to infuse some here. I think even if he doesn't get it done entirely, at least he will have set a base that might allow a future coach to be more successful. The program is healthier now than it was 2 years ago IMHO.
I cannot agree with you more Art, there is no excuse for a team to go 1-11 after going to a bowl game the year before. The talent was not that bad last year in my opinion.
Monty, you bring up some excellent points. From my perspective I guess I thought we should have went with a coach who had proved himself as not only a recruiter but also as an on the field coach, but what is done is done. I just don't feel that a Big Ten school should be a training ground for a coach who had no head coaching or coordinator experience, that is what the non BCS conferences are for.
Umm......your 2008 starting cornerbacks....Jamal Harris and Ryan Collado. Your starting linebackers.....John Shevlin and Mike Sherels. Your starting wide receivers.....Ralph Spry and Tray Herndon. Your starting quarterback.....a redshirt freshman. Your starting running back.....a true freshman.