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SDGopherFan
03-30-2009, 12:33 PM
Private jet headed to the twin cities and return flight booked. Got this off of the VA board!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/OPT476

ShowinGoldyLove
03-30-2009, 12:34 PM
Hm...this is getting really weird.

Not getting good vibes from a flight out of NJ where UVa's biggest donor Paul Tudor Jones lives, to Minneapolis, then back to Charlottesville, Virginia, home of the University of Virginia (where he donated $20 mil to the funding of the new basketball arena that was named after his father).

GortonsFisherman011
03-30-2009, 12:35 PM
lol from near jersey.

Go4
03-30-2009, 12:37 PM
As if we needed any more proof, these coaching searches are crazy.

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 12:38 PM
The plane is coming from NY, but if you look at the bottom the return flight is scheduled to go to Charlottsville, VA.

ChuckTownHoo
03-30-2009, 12:38 PM
Flight originated out of Jersey...short stop in MN, final destination Charlottesville.

inflectionpoint
03-30-2009, 12:39 PM
from NJ to St. Paul, to Charlottesville. VA. guhhh

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 12:39 PM
Paul Tudor Jones lives in New York.

Schnoodler
03-30-2009, 12:41 PM
yikes! For the first time I'm worried. Wish I hadn't seen this thread.

Bad Gopher
03-30-2009, 12:41 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but this doesn't look good.

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 12:42 PM
Well...the plane is supposted to arrive in St. Paul in 15 minutes....someone either book it down to Holman field, or call one of the media outlets to get down there asap and see if a certain someones at the airport....

SDGopherFan
03-30-2009, 12:43 PM
boards are going nuts over this.

Maximus
03-30-2009, 12:43 PM
The internet is amazing.

97alumni
03-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Also could be they are picking up the VA representative that came to negotiate with Tubby.

Regardless to quote Snowman - if it happens it happens

Schnoodler
03-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Well, it could be that someone's coming here to woo Tubs. Free lunch for the big guy. that's what I'm going with just for sanity sake.

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 12:47 PM
If people want to call media and get them to do some actual journalism work here are some numbers:

Souhan Phone: 612-673-4503

Reusse: Phone: 612-673-7129

Blount: Phone: 612-673-4389

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 12:47 PM
Only problem was he was never on it.

Ski U Master
03-30-2009, 12:48 PM
The previous origination in Teterboro, New Jersey is only 1.5 hour drive from this Paul Tudor Jones guy. Also, in the last week there have been 7 flights from Teterboro to Charlottesville, VA so this might be his choice airport.

inflectionpoint
03-30-2009, 12:49 PM
yes, let's hope it's the Wahoos coming home without Tubby. Which would affirm Charley's note in the PP.

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Here are the flight logs of this plane for the last 5 days: Notice the stop in Columbus as well.....

Date Type Origin Destination Departure Arrival Duration
30-Mar-2009 St Paul Holman Fld (KSTP) Charlottesville-Albemarle (KCHO) 02:27PM CDT 05:50PM EDT Scheduled
30-Mar-2009 Teterboro (KTEB) St Paul Holman Fld (KSTP) 12:02PM EDT 01:53PM CDT En Route
29-Mar-2009 Jacksonville Intl (KJAX) Teterboro (KTEB) 03:33PM EDT 05:07PM EDT 1:34
29-Mar-2009 Jacksonville Intl (KJAX) Trenton Mercer (KTTN) 03:33PM EDT Diverted
29-Mar-2009 Palm Beach Intl (KPBI) Jacksonville Intl (KJAX) 11:53AM EDT 12:48PM EDT 0:55
29-Mar-2009 Cuyahoga County (KCGF) Palm Beach Intl (KPBI) 06:59AM EDT 10:16AM EDT 3:17
25-Mar-2009 Ohio State University (KOSU) Cuyahoga County (KCGF) 07:14PM EDT 07:45PM EDT 0:31
25-Mar-2009 Kalamazoo/Battle Creek Intl (KAZO) Ohio State University (KOSU) 05:39PM EDT 06:15PM EDT 0:36
25-Mar-2009 Waukesha County (KUES) Kalamazoo/Battle Creek Intl (KAZO) 08:05AM CDT 09:33AM EDT 0:27
24-Mar-2009 Dekalb-Peachtree (KPDK) Waukesha County (KUES) 05:41PM EDT 06:23PM CDT 1:42
24-Mar-2009 Naples Muni (KAPF) Dekalb-Peachtree (KPDK) 03:01PM EDT 04:48PM EDT 1:47
24-Mar-2009 Palm Beach Intl (KPBI) Naples Muni (KAPF) 01:14PM EDT 01:45PM EDT 0:31

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 12:51 PM
However the previous origination in Teterboro, New Jersey is only 1.5 hour drive from this Paul Tudor Jones guy. Also, in the last week there have been 7 flights from Teterboro to Charlottesville, VA so this might be his choice airport.

Terterboro is the "corporate jet" airport for NYC area.

go4fan
03-30-2009, 12:51 PM
anyone have flip's cell phone number?

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 12:53 PM
However the previous origination in Teterboro, New Jersey is only 1.5 hour drive from this Paul Tudor Jones guy. Also, in the last week there have been 7 flights from Teterboro to Charlottesville, VA so this might be his choice airport.

Yes, it's obviously Paul Tudor Jones' jet.

TubbytownUSA
03-30-2009, 12:53 PM
anyone have flip's cell phone number?

Yes please.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Terterboro is the "corporate jet" airport for NYC area.

Yep. Jones' pal Stanley Druckenmiller also has a jet there (http://cityfile.com/profiles/stanley-druckenmiller).

MNfaninVA
03-30-2009, 12:56 PM
I live 1/2 mile from the airport in Charlottesville......might go check it out.

ChuckTownHoo
03-30-2009, 12:58 PM
Believe someone on our board said the jet company is based out of Ohio, so might not be much to the trips there.

97alumni
03-30-2009, 12:58 PM
I live 1/2 mile from the airport in Charlottesville......might go check it out.

Please do - that way people know one way or the other. Otherwise this board might spontaneously combust :)

WanderingGopher
03-30-2009, 01:00 PM
I live 1/2 mile from the airport in Charlottesville......might go check it out.

Bring some eggs with, and use them if Tubby gets off that plane.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:02 PM
If people want to call media and get them to do some actual journalism work here are some numbers:

Souhan Phone: 612-673-4503

Reusse: Phone: 612-673-7129

Blount: Phone: 612-673-4389

Wrong #'s to post for if you want facts and reporting. :rolleyes:

SDGopherFan
03-30-2009, 01:02 PM
there are reports coming out of VA that OTS is on the plane.
Is Flip the #1 candidate or who else is going to be considered?

gopherguy06
03-30-2009, 01:03 PM
there are reports coming out of VA that OTS is on the plane.
Is Flip the #1 candidate or who else is going to be considered?

OTS?

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:03 PM
I remember watching Mich fans get obsessed with Flight Aware during the Rich Rod mess. Does this level of neurosis on our part mean we've hit the big time? :confused:

97alumni
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
I remember watching Mich fans get obsessed with Flight Aware during the Rich Rod mess. Does this level of neurosis on our part mean we've hit the big time? :confused:

Guess I can't laugh at the Kentucky fans anymore ;(

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
The jet is owned by Flight Options
www.flightoptions.com

So its not specifically owned by any of the UVA people, buty easily could have been chartered by them...

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
OTS?

Orlando Tubby Smith.

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
Believe someone on our board said the jet company is based out of Ohio, so might not be much to the trips there.

Executive Jet is HQ-ed in Columbus OH.

ShowinGoldyLove
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
there are reports coming out of VA that OTS is on the plane.
Is Flip the #1 candidate or who else is going to be considered?
Just out of curiosity, what is the source of these reports? Internet message boards, reporters, etc.?

Section201
03-30-2009, 01:05 PM
Am I the only one who finds this airplane stalking demented?

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 01:06 PM
there are reports coming out of VA that OTS is on the plane.
Is Flip the #1 candidate or who else is going to be considered?


The flight isn;t even scheduled to leave the twin Cities for 20 minutes....so unless they have s source sitting at Holman field, I take that too seriously....yet

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:06 PM
there are reports coming out of VA that OTS is on the plane.
Is Flip the #1 candidate or who else is going to be considered?

I just got an E-Mail that would indicate otherwise. You would think the AD would know if another school had asked to talk to OTS. Believe whatever you like.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:07 PM
Am I the only one who finds this airplane stalking demented?

Nope, I'm there with you.

gopheraschells
03-30-2009, 01:07 PM
posted this in another thread but I would really like to have tubby back, he is a great coach..but i am looking at this with a glass half full (some prolly will say overflowing) but looking at this with a positive view we are in good situation, one of the best a team losing his coach could ask for. We have a potential just as good or better coach in Flip waiting his turn who would stay at Mn for a long long time. Our Big time recruits have minnesota ties and prolly wont follow tubby all the way to Virginia or whatever esecially if we get flip..trevor could be different but whatever..So our new coach (hopefully flip) comes in with a top ten class, o well...and on the other side tubby stays and is just using this to get a new practice facility...win win baby and if brewster leaves.... come on home dungy!!!...i challenge someone to make a more optimistic post then that
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gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 01:07 PM
and now the return flight to Virginia is not even listed on Flight aware anymore......

The only scheduled departure out of Holman field now is to Dubuque, IA.....


http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KSTP

SDGopherFan
03-30-2009, 01:08 PM
is the source! FWIW

97alumni
03-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Nope, I'm there with you.

I third that - it's weird

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:09 PM
posted this in another thread but I would really like to have tubby back, he is a great coach..but i am looking at this with a glass half full (some prolly will say overflowing) but looking at this with a positive view we are in good situation, one of the best a team losing his coach could ask for. We have a potential just as good or better coach in Flip waiting his turn who would stay at Mn for a long long time. Our Big time recruits have minnesota ties and prolly wont follow tubby all the way to Virginia or whatever esecially if we get flip..trevor could be different but whatever..So our new coach (hopefully flip) comes in with a top ten class, o well...and on the other side tubby stays and is just using this to get a new practice facility...win win baby and if brewster leaves.... come on home dungy!!!...i challenge someone to make a more optimistic post then that
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Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:09 PM
Minnesota is a quality basketball program.

Not for long, it appears.

ShowinGoldyLove
03-30-2009, 01:10 PM
I third that - it's weird
I actually think it's incredible how far technology has come in such a short time.

If anything, it provides another level of entertainment trying to discern what is going on...kind of like cutting edge reporting, except if it's actually true, I expect the "real" reporters to catch wind of it a number of hours from now.

boner4goldy
03-30-2009, 01:10 PM
someone in the area really needs to go check out what is going on at the airport and then report back.

97alumni
03-30-2009, 01:12 PM
Not for long, it appears.

I love Tubby like the next person but be realistic - we didn't exactly win the Big Ten this year. We finished what 7th and were knocked out first round of the tourney.

If Tubby has done anything he's made this attractive for another big name quality coach to step in and succeed. I hope you don't think that Tubby is the only person who can succeed here - I certainly don't.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:12 PM
I just got an E-Mail that would indicate otherwise. You would think the AD would know if another school had asked to talk to OTS. Believe whatever you like.

I don't know. Wouldn't Tubby prefer to sneak out of the Twin Cities before making an sort of an announcement?

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:14 PM
I don't know. Wouldn't Tubby prefer to sneak out of the Twin Cities before making an sort of an announcement?

The AD would HAVE to know whether UVa asked to speak to him. He's under contract to The U. Anybody else must ask permission first.

You may believe whatever you want.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:15 PM
I love Tubby like the next person but be realistic - we didn't exactly win the Big Ten this year. We finished what 7th and were knocked out first round of the tourney.

This year. We were going to be great next year.


I hope you don't think that Tubby is the only person who can succeed here - I certainly don't.

It's that easy?

Schnoodler
03-30-2009, 01:16 PM
OSU? Are they abuzz too?

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:16 PM
I actually think it's incredible how far technology has come in such a short time.

If anything, it provides another level of entertainment trying to discern what is going on...kind of like cutting edge reporting, except if it's actually true, I expect the "real" reporters to catch wind of it a number of hours from now.

I don't disagree that it's amazing what you can figure out using the internet, but its still stalkerish. :) I know that the odds are pointing to a VA booster on board but basically all we've got here is more unfounded speculation based on not enough info. I think its kinda funny watching everyone freak out like this when we still know basically the same things we did an hour ago before the Wahoo Invasion warnings came out via FlightAware.

If Tubby is gone he's gone. I'm going to keep checking the Hole incessantly b/c I want to know what happens...but I'm not going to get so worked up over it because there is literally nothing any of us can do about it. If he stays, awesome. If he goes, we move on, possibly to a "Minnesota Man" in Flip.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:17 PM
This year. We were going to be great next year.



It's that easy?

It is if you make another good hire. Tough thing is you don't know if its a good hire until a few years in.

ShowinGoldyLove
03-30-2009, 01:18 PM
If he stays, awesome. If he goes, we move on, possibly to a "Minnesota Man" in Flip.
Yup, agreed on both accounts.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:23 PM
It is if you make another good hire. Tough thing is you don't know if its a good hire until a few years in.

Which is no small problem.

97alumni
03-30-2009, 01:23 PM
If Tubby is gone he's gone. I'm going to keep checking the Hole incessantly b/c I want to know what happens...but I'm not going to get so worked up over it because there is literally nothing any of us can do about it. If he stays, awesome. If he goes, we move on, possibly to a "Minnesota Man" in Flip.

Yep if Tubby goes - I want the next hire to be our version of Izzo. I want someone who the nation equates with Minnesota and Gopher Basketball. Personally - I think that person is Flip.

harrys ghost
03-30-2009, 01:23 PM
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/42132547.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc: aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

Anybody announce that UVa has permission to talk to Tubby?

gopheraschells
03-30-2009, 01:24 PM
if all this is going on with virginia after tubby this year..is this going to go on every year?? what happens when better schools come calling??if this is going to be the case every year, let him leave and get flip the minnesota man in here...i kinda get the feeling flip is a hybrid of john wooden and dean smith anyway

Blizzard
03-30-2009, 01:28 PM
The AD would HAVE to know whether UVa asked to speak to him. He's under contract to The U. Anybody else must ask permission first.

What FOT is saying !

How many times does it have to said ? Tubby isn't going anywhere !

Honestly people. Let's get a grip here.

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:28 PM
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/42132547.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc: aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

Anybody announce that UVa has permission to talk to Tubby?

No one has asked the AD. I've swapped E-Mails with him last night and today.

Believe whatever you wish.

GoGophers2005
03-30-2009, 01:29 PM
I believe Friend of Tubby

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:30 PM
Which is no small problem.

Sure, but again, why are we getting worked up about it? Flip is about as much of a slam dunk as we could hope for coming off Tubby. Would it be a good hire? Who knows. But there is no one we could realistically hire other than Flip who could come in and match the "buzz" and star power of Tubby. If Tubby leaves keeping MN fans on the wagon is a serious concern. Flip would do that. He's also a good coach. I think that getting him would be a good hire based on how it would be judged before any games were played.

So yes, if we make what looks like a good hire right away I'd say it is that easy. Whether it pans out or not takes time and thats true no matter who we hire. What's important now is to find a good coach that will be a good fit and who keeps the train moving. If needed, Flip is that guy.

jmag21
03-30-2009, 01:31 PM
I'm still confident that Tubby will stay. And the fact is, even if he goes, he's left the job in a good enough place that I'm sure we could get a very good replacement. Of course, that wouldn't excuse the leaving. If he left, I'm pretty sure he'd be at or near the top of most hated sports figures for most Minnesota sports fans, including me. But, once again, I'm not all that worried.

Maximus
03-30-2009, 01:36 PM
No one has asked the AD. I've swapped E-Mails with him last night and today.

Believe whatever you wish.


Why would a Division I AD share details like that with you?

MrGopher
03-30-2009, 01:37 PM
What sort of timeline are we on here? When do people think we will absolutely know who our coach is?

Are we approaching some hard deadline in contract negotiations for coaches?
Or have the rumors simply peaked at this frenzied pace?
Why has the panic skyrocketed today in particular?

parkinglotgopher
03-30-2009, 01:38 PM
First off, let me say all this speculation about Coach Smith is completely surreal. I'm on the record as saying I don't think he'll leave, and have been saying so for some time. If anything, I think all this UVa speculation is just leverage to get things like a practice facility rolling ASAP.

That said, this thread is the one of several on multiple sites saying that everyone hopes Flip is the next Gopher head coach. I want to go on the record as saying I hope Flip IS NOT the next coach of the Gophers. Sure, he brings an NBA name to the table and Gopher legacy through his playing days, but what has Flip Saunders ever done that makes people think he can succeeding in the college game, where recruiting becomes almost as important as Xs and Os? I would much rather hire someone with an NCAA track record that didn't play basketball at Minnesota that Flip.

Friend Of Tubby
03-30-2009, 01:42 PM
Why would a Division I AD share details like that with you?

We have mutual friends. My HS History teacher was his ND football teammate. My Purdue classmate in early 70's is Purdue AD.

He got me tickets to the Gopher (sky) box at B10 tourney.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:45 PM
Sure, but again, why are we getting worked up about it? Flip is about as much of a slam dunk as we could hope for coming off Tubby. Would it be a good hire? Who knows. But there is no one we could realistically hire other than Flip who could come in and match the "buzz" and star power of Tubby. If Tubby leaves keeping MN fans on the wagon is a serious concern. Flip would do that. He's also a good coach. I think that getting him would be a good hire based on how it would be judged before any games were played.


I think you seriously overrate Flip's star power. Outside of Minnesota and Michigan, how many recruits would actually know who Flip Saunders is?



So yes, if we make what looks like a good hire right away I'd say it is that easy. Whether it pans out or not takes time and thats true no matter who we hire. What's important now is to find a good coach that will be a good fit and who keeps the train moving. If needed, Flip is that guy.

Even Flip is a good coach, he's a good NBA coach. Do you really subscribe to the theory that a coach is a coach is a coach? The NBA and NCAA are two totally different animals. Look at Tim Floyd. He won at New Orleans, won at Iowa State, was an abject failure in Chicago (.280 winning %), and is now winning at USC. How would you explain that?

Maximus
03-30-2009, 01:46 PM
First off, let me say all this speculation about Coach Smith is completely surreal. I'm on the record as saying I don't think he'll leave, and have been saying so for some time. If anything, I think all this UVa speculation is just leverage to get things like a practice facility rolling ASAP.

That said, this thread is the one of several on multiple sites saying that everyone hopes Flip is the next Gopher head coach. I want to go on the record as saying I hope Flip IS NOT the next coach of the Gophers. Sure, he brings an NBA name to the table and Gopher legacy through his playing days, but what has Flip Saunders ever done that makes people think he can succeeding in the college game, where recruiting becomes almost as important as Xs and Os? I would much rather hire someone with an NCAA track record that didn't play basketball at Minnesota that Flip.

A) He's succeeded at every single stop he's made for the last 30 years.
B) 92-13 record as a college coach

MNSnowman
03-30-2009, 01:46 PM
FWIW, I'm climbing Tower 2 in Shoreview to get an eagle's eye of Holman Field. I'm almost at the top but typing on the Treo makes it a bit trickier.

Did I ever tell you guys how many hawks and eagles there are in Shoreview? And how possessive they seem to be about these towers?

But nothing is too good for my fellow GopherHolers and I'm dedicated to getting the news as it happens. (And if it happens, it happens.)

So, I'm near the top now and just have to put down the Treo and grab the binoculars. Yes, I see the corporate jet, there's a man and woman walking to it and

SelectionSunday
03-30-2009, 01:46 PM
I second what parkinglotgopher said. Have never understood the fascination with Flip as the Gophers' head coach. He's a pro guy all the way. I have no doubt he would be the "most agreeable" hire to the Gopher fan base, but long-term I'd be very skeptical about Flip in terms of making the Gophers a consistent national player.

I would add a second thing. If Tubby leaves, DO NOT hire anyone on the current staff as the head coach no matter what the players say. I don't think anyone currently on staff is a long-term solution. Hiring Taylor, Jirsa or anyone else would be the easy thing to do but not the right thing to do.

Maximus
03-30-2009, 01:48 PM
We have mutual friends. My HS History teacher was his ND football teammate. My Purdue classmate in early 70's is Purdue AD.

He got me tickets to the Gopher (sky) box at B10 tourney.

Well I hope one day when I tell someone some inside information because we have mutual friends...they will run to the internet to tell the world immediately.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:49 PM
First off, let me say all this speculation about Coach Smith is completely surreal. I'm on the record as saying I don't think he'll leave, and have been saying so for some time. If anything, I think all this UVa speculation is just leverage to get things like a practice facility rolling ASAP.

That said, this thread is the one of several on multiple sites saying that everyone hopes Flip is the next Gopher head coach. I want to go on the record as saying I hope Flip IS NOT the next coach of the Gophers. Sure, he brings an NBA name to the table and Gopher legacy through his playing days, but what has Flip Saunders ever done that makes people think he can succeeding in the college game, where recruiting becomes almost as important as Xs and Os? I would much rather hire someone with an NCAA track record that didn't play basketball at Minnesota that Flip.

All fair points. But who says a hot mid-major coach or low buzz BCS conf coach (b/c I don't believe Tubby has done enough to get us another high-level BCS coach) will have what it takes to recruit at MN? Its all a crap shoot and I'm willing to roll the dice on a proven winner who has ties to MN and won't F us over for more money (again, not saying Tubby is...this is all what if).

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 01:49 PM
B) 92-13 record as a college coach

Yeah, but that was at some tiny little Bible college nearly 30 years ago.

BigTenaciousD
03-30-2009, 01:50 PM
I'm reminded of...

"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!"
-- Arthur Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati


FWIW, I'm climbing Tower 2 in Shoreview to get an eagle's eye of Holman Field. I'm almost at the top but typing on the Treo makes it a bit trickier.

Did I ever tell you guys how many hawks and eagles there are in Shoreview? And how possessive they seem to be about these towers?

But nothing is too good for my fellow GopherHolers and I'm dedicated to getting the news as it happens. (And if it happens, it happens.)

So, I'm near the top now and just have to put down the Treo and grab the binoculars. Yes, I see the corporate jet, there's a man and woman walking to it and

SelectionSunday
03-30-2009, 01:51 PM
That's impressive FOT. Can I have your autograph?

SelectionSunday
03-30-2009, 01:52 PM
Snowman, I can always count on you to bring some levity to what's becoming a tense situation. Thank you.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:53 PM
I think you seriously overrate Flip's star power. Outside of Minnesota and Michigan, how many recruits would actually know who Flip Saunders is?

He was a pretty successful NBA coach...I don't think it would be too hard to get the word out.


Even Flip is a good coach, he's a good NBA coach. Do you really subscribe to the theory that a coach is a coach is a coach? The NBA and NCAA are two totally different animals. Look at Tim Floyd. He won at New Orleans, won at Iowa State, was an abject failure in Chicago (.280 winning %), and is now winning at USC. How would you explain that?

Um, I think you just made my point. Floyd is a pretty consistent winner. There are a multitude of reasons why someone can fail in a specific coaching stop. Until there is a pattern I'm not worried.

ShowinGoldyLove
03-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Yes Snowman, it could be said that your reporting is "above" all the rest, or "on a higher level" if you will.

gopheraschells
03-30-2009, 01:53 PM
my beef with all this is that no natinal media members have said a thing about this lately (a la espn, si) this whole thing is based on team discussion boards, half coming from crazy southerners...if something as big as a virginia booster or whatever arriving by jet was going on I would think someone from espn would jump on that and would be the one to break the news

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:55 PM
Well I hope one day when I tell someone some inside information because we have mutual friends...they will run to the internet to tell the world immediately.

I don't have any opinion on the voracity of FOT's info. But I sincerely doubt anyone sharing this info expects it to stay quiet for long. This is THE STORY right now in Gopher sports circles. Now if FOT was asked to keep it quiet and is failing to do so that would be a diff story but we don't know what he is or is not being told.

MNSnowman
03-30-2009, 01:56 PM
You'll want my autograph, too. My dad was first cousin to Phog Allen's son-in-law. I remember to this day when we had dinner at the cousin's house and Phog pulled up his chair, looked me in the eye and said

....."Pass the potatoes, please."

It. Really. Did. Happen.

GoAUpher
03-30-2009, 01:57 PM
my beef with all this is that no natinal media members have said a thing about this lately (a la espn, si) this whole thing is based on team discussion boards, half coming from crazy southerners...if something as big as a virginia booster or whatever arriving by jet was going on I would think someone from espn would jump on that and would be the one to break the news

ESPN needs to see it in a blog first before they can steal the story and make it an "exclusive". Maybe if The Daily Gopher breaks it we'll see something on the 4 letters. :)

Section201
03-30-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm still confident that Tubby will stay. And the fact is, even if he goes, he's left the job in a good enough place that I'm sure we could get a very good replacement. Of course, that wouldn't excuse the leaving. If he left, I'm pretty sure he'd be at or near the top of most hated sports figures for most Minnesota sports fans, including me. But, once again, I'm not all that worried.

Count me out on that hate crap. If Tubby were to leave tonight I would still be thankfull he came and helped to resurect our program. He is a wonderful rep for our state and the U.

If he for whatever reason decided to go elsewhere I would never harbor ill will. I would wish him long life and success.

I will remain thankful.

And still today, Head Coach of the Golden Gophers, Tubby Smith :clap: :clap: :clap:

But that is just me, I guess.

RahRahSkiUMah
03-30-2009, 02:00 PM
my beef with all this is that no natinal media members have said a thing about this lately (a la espn, si) this whole thing is based on team discussion boards, half coming from crazy southerners...if something as big as a virginia booster or whatever arriving by jet was going on I would think someone from espn would jump on that and would be the one to break the news

I think I remember hearing that Tubby was coming to Minnesota on this exact board....

Lincoln gopher
03-30-2009, 02:01 PM
I'm reminded of...

"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!"
-- Arthur Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati

I thought that was a Herb Tarlic quote.

Ski U Master
03-30-2009, 02:03 PM
Looks like the trip from STP to CHO (Virginia) has been removed from the online itinerary. It was supposed to have left almost an hour ago.

TheDinkytowner
03-30-2009, 02:08 PM
That's 91 posts and 5,000 views in about 90 minutes. Well done.

BigTenaciousD
03-30-2009, 02:10 PM
I thought that was a Herb Tarlic quote.

I was pretty sure I had that one right - wikipedia *proves* it! :) (if you trust wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Carlson

Also loved it when Les Nessman uttered 'Oh the humanity'. :clap:

gopheraschells
03-30-2009, 02:11 PM
I think I remember hearing that Tubby was coming to Minnesota on this exact board....

i remember otherwise..but this is different anyway there has been speculation going on for weeks but nothing on major networks

harrys ghost
03-30-2009, 02:14 PM
http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/basketball/2009/March/30/1108002.php

Someone suggested shutting their board down for a "mental health day". :)

HooJC
03-30-2009, 02:59 PM
I'll admit, this search has been a little crazy, but today takes the cake. Some of my fellow Virginia fans have lost their damn minds! Mob mentality has taken over. I'm avoiding those boards for the rest of the day. I have a couple sources (doesn't everybody these days?), so I'll hear of developments without having to sift through the dumpster that the sabre has become. I've made some jackass comments towards you Gophers, but it was all in fun. I hope this search turns out well for everybody and SOON. I shudder to think what people will resort to if we don't get some answers. For everyone's sanity, JUST PICK SOMEBODY! Have a good one gophers.

Plinnius
03-30-2009, 03:03 PM
I'll admit, this search has been a little crazy, but today takes the cake. Some of my fellow Virginia fans have lost their damn minds! Mob mentality has taken over. I'm avoiding those boards for the rest of the day. I have a couple sources (doesn't everybody these days?), so I'll hear of developments without having to sift through the dumpster that the sabre has become. I've made some jackass comments towards you Gophers, but it was all in fun. I hope this search turns out well for everybody and SOON. I shudder to think what people will resort to if we don't get some answers. For everyone's sanity, JUST PICK SOMEBODY! Have a good one gophers.

How do you feel about Tony Bennett?

HooJC
03-30-2009, 03:04 PM
OK, one minute after my plea, we get Tony bennett. Huh? Enjoy Tubby, you guys have an outstanding coach.

HooJC
03-30-2009, 03:08 PM
Totally out of left field. Had not heard his name mentioned once. I'm honestly in shock. Thought Tubby was a 50/50 proposition and a godsend if we could get him, but this is just crazy and unexpected. Again, sorry to have caused you guys stress. Apparently our administration has no idea what a hall of fame coach looks like

Section201
03-30-2009, 03:13 PM
Totally out of left field. Had not heard his name mentioned once. I'm honestly in shock. Thought Tubby was a 50/50 proposition and a godsend if we could get him, but this is just crazy and unexpected. Again, sorry to have caused you guys stress. Apparently our administration has no idea what a hall of fame coach looks like

No one can be blamed for wanting Tubby. Those Kentucky folks were nuts, IMHO. I hope you get a great coach and your program soon kicks the crap out of Duke and NC I just want that great coach to NOT be name Tubby !

as for Sabre, it has been a hoot ! :)

gopherguy05
03-30-2009, 03:16 PM
Totally out of left field. Had not heard his name mentioned once. I'm honestly in shock. Thought Tubby was a 50/50 proposition and a godsend if we could get him, but this is just crazy and unexpected. Again, sorry to have caused you guys stress. Apparently our administration has no idea what a hall of fame coach looks like


Or you and the rest of your fanbase is disulsional about how good of a program Virginia really is. None of the coaches you wanted wanted you. Face the facts that you are a mid-level ACC school that will nenevr compete on a regular basis with the Dukes and the NC's of the world. Sounds like you need to be smacked back to reality, and hopefully when you guys are playing in the NIT and we are in the sweet 16, you might actually realize that Virginia is not one of the ten higest profile teams in the country..

Bye bye now...you all have fun running your new actually competent and quality coach out of town because he isn't a "hall of fame coach"

cncmin
03-30-2009, 05:51 PM
The AD would HAVE to know whether UVa asked to speak to him. He's under contract to The U. Anybody else must ask permission first.

You may believe whatever you want.

See, it's posts like these that make FOT valuable whether you like him or not - the common sense of many of his posts are a breath of fresh air around the alarmist atmosphere we too often have.