Picture of Badgers shot as shot clock expired - did he get it off?

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NM. Can't image to save. Needless to say, he didn't get it off.
 

It's pretty clear from that he didn't, but I guess my question is more why that is something that can't be looked at?
 

Monty519 said:
It's pretty clear from that he didn't, but I guess my question is more why that is something that can't be looked at?
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Could have been if the ball hadn't been inbounded, I think.
 

No, it's not reviewable. Same thing in the Kentucky vs. Vanderbilt game. Nerlens Noel clearly had the ball in his hand, but the shot counted. It's not something reviewable.
 



KyGopherfan said:
No, it's not reviewable. Same thing in the Kentucky vs. Vanderbilt game. Nerlens Noel clearly had the ball in his hand, but the shot counted. It's not something reviewable.
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Makes no sense to me that something of that magnitude can't be looked at.
 

With all the instant replay, how is this not reviewable? Didn't it happen in the Colorado/Arizona game? What makes a shot clock violation reviewable then?
 

I didn't hear a buzzer go off? Did anyone else?

With it being just a bang bang play, you would expect to hear the buzzer, even if he got it off in time.
 



Another view:

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Monty519 said:
It's pretty clear from that he didn't, but I guess my question is more why that is something that can't be looked at?
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Stupid rule that needs to be changed, shot clock expiration can't be looked at.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
I didn't hear a buzzer go off? Did anyone else?

With it being just a bang bang play, you would expect to hear the buzzer, even if he got it off in time.
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I don't think the buzzer went off and it should have regardless, because obviously the ball didn't hit the rim before the clock expired. The light around the backboard didn't light up either.

Am I right in thinking that the buzzer is the official end of the clock, not the clock itself? I'd assume they do that so the refs don't have to look at the clock during live action.
 

Does the shot clock above the backboard have decimals? It could be that the clock reads "0" after 1.0 all the way from 0.9-0.1. Watching the game, I did not hear a horn before he got it off.
 



bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Does the shot clock above the backboard have decimals? It could be that the clock reads "0" after 1.0 all the way from 0.9-0.1. Watching the game, I did not hear a horn before he got it off.
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Then it had to have malfunctioned because even if he got it off by .5 seconds, it still should have gone off at some point.
 

justthefacts said:
I don't think the buzzer went off and it should have regardless, because obviously the ball didn't hit the rim before the clock expired. The light around the backboard didn't light up either.

Am I right in thinking that the buzzer is the official end of the clock, not the clock itself? I'd assume they do that so the refs don't have to look at the clock during live action.
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No pretty sure it is when the clock hits zero not the sound of the buzzer.
 

stocker08 said:
With all the instant replay, how is this not reviewable? Didn't it happen in the Colorado/Arizona game? What makes a shot clock violation reviewable then?
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Exactly. They review to see of last second shots beat the buzzer but not if they beat the shot clock? Seems illogical to the extreme.
 

Goldy Gopher said:
No pretty sure it is when the clock hits zero not the sound of the buzzer.
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I looked it up:

Art. 9. Sound the shot-clock horn at the expiration of the shot-clock period. This
shot-clock horn shall not stop play unless recognized by an official’s whistle.
When the shot clock indicates zeros but the shot-clock horn has not sounded, the
shot-clock time has not expired.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR13.pdf
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
I didn't hear a buzzer go off? Did anyone else?

With it being just a bang bang play, you would expect to hear the buzzer, even if he got it off in time.
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Pretty sure I heard the buzzer over the TV while the ball was still in his hands, which is why I scrolled back my DVR to verify with the shot clock, and it indeed said 0. So the refs had 2 indicators to make the correct call, and failed. Just more benefit for Wisconsin by the refs, which has directly led to their 90% winning percentage at Kohl Center and their streak of top-4 finishes. Without those kind of benefits, Bo's teams are simply above-average, not great Big Ten teams.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Does the shot clock above the backboard have decimals? It could be that the clock reads "0" after 1.0 all the way from 0.9-0.1. Watching the game, I did not hear a horn before he got it off.
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No way.
 


cncmin said:
Pretty sure I heard the buzzer over the TV while the ball was still in his hands, which is why I scrolled back my DVR to verify with the shot clock, and it indeed said 0. So the refs had 2 indicators to make the correct call, and failed. Just more benefit for Wisconsin by the refs, which has directly led to their 90% winning percentage at Kohl Center and their streak of top-4 finishes. Without those kind of benefits, Bo's teams are simply above-average, not great Big Ten teams.
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Which would probably explain why Wisconsin has more road wins in the Big Ten than any other team during Bo Ryan's tenure.
 

The Badgers had this happen to them last season at the Kohl...the shot clock reaching 0 means nothing without the horn and the board lit up...they got torched on it last year and got it back this year....karma
 


StCroix said:
The Badgers had this happen to them last season at the Kohl...the shot clock reaching 0 means nothing without the horn and the board lit up...they got torched on it last year and got it back this year....karma
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Couldn't they have gotten their "karma" against someone else? Why the Gophers?
 


Yeah.. rule I think is that it's the SOUND not the visual. I have no idea what those guys heard on the court. Super close, but 2-point field goal shooting is a bigger issue than the refs.

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Shot clock violation: Rule 9, Section 11, Article 2: sounding of the shot clock horn is what creates the violation. #Gophers #Badgers

The rules as I read 'em
 

cncmin said:
No, why would they program it that way, that would defeat the purpose of a shot clock.
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Because that is the way most scoreboard clocks work. The number representing full seconds drops as soon as the time is under it. Watch a gametime clock when it passes the one minute mark. It goes from 1:00 to 59.9, so the digits representing the seconds show 59 even though there is more than 59 left. If you take away the decimal, it reads 59 from 59.9-59.0. Then, at 0, it reads 0 from .9 to .1.
 

I believe it's the light around the backboard that is the indicator of the shot clock hitting zero. That light is not on in the picture posted by Bleed to start the thread. Shot was darn close, but it looks like he got it off before the shot clock expired.
 

stocker08 said:
It is a very stupid rule.
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Why are the Gophers always the ones on the wrong end of extremely stupid rules? Earlier in the same game they didn't get an arrow switch for possession because of some foul on the out of bounds play; how did that make any sense? How about the fumble-forward that Nebraska was awarded a first down on last year on the batted ball?
 

Buzzer and backboard light are official, the clock is not.
 

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