Shooters Shooters Shooters

[Section201]

Shooters Shooters Shooters, my kingdom for some shooters!

Where will our shooters be next year? Can Blake return to the planet and his previous skill level? Can Al, Damien, and Westy improve over the next 7-8 months? Can Cobbs shoot? I dont see Mbakwe, White or Williams as any shooting improvement.

I do see the team as being better and stronger next year but geeeez, who is going to make a few 3's?

Yet even with that mini-rant let me say Thank You, Thank You, Thank You Tubby !

Thank you for a fun season and I cant wait for the next one! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[walter]

i concur - recruit someone who can shoot

I think Blake has lost it and do not think it will return.

[rrjackIII]

Shooters Shooters Shooters, my kingdom for some shooters!

Where will our shooters be next year? Can Blake return to the planet and his previous skill level? Can Al, Damien, and Westy improve over the next 7-8 months? Can Cobbs shoot? I dont see Mbakwe, White or Williams as any shooting improvement.

I do see the team as being better and stronger next year but geeeez, who is going to make a few 3's?

Yet even with that mini-rant let me say Thank You, Thank You, Thank You Tubby !

Thank you for a fun season and I cant wait for the next one! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Bryant Allen should be ready by tourney time.

[ShowinGoldyLove]

i concur - recruit someone who can shoot

I think Blake has lost it and do not think it will return.
Give me a break. The kid has been a pure shooter his entire life. That's not going to change. He went though an extended rough spell. He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?

[Section201]

Bryant Allen should be ready by tourney time.

after starring in the Rose Bowl? :)

[Plinnius]

He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?

That our team can't shoot worth a crap.

[cncmin]

Shooters Shooters Shooters, my kingdom for some shooters!

Where will our shooters be next year? Can Blake return to the planet and his previous skill level? Can Al, Damien, and Westy improve over the next 7-8 months? Can Cobbs shoot? I dont see Mbakwe, White or Williams as any shooting improvement.

I do see the team as being better and stronger next year but geeeez, who is going to make a few 3's?

Yet even with that mini-rant let me say Thank You, Thank You, Thank You Tubby !

Thank you for a fun season and I cant wait for the next one! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Hoff should be better, and Joseph should start finding his scoring role on the team. Bryant Allen has an amazing 3-point touch, and we'll see how/if Tubby uses him. Cobbs seems like he might be able to shoot. Bostick might find his outside shot. I think the offseason will produce a lot of different results, especially if Iverson and Sampson get bigger, stronger, and better inside.

[walter]

Give me a break. The kid has been a pure shooter his entire life. That's not going to change. He went though an extended rough spell. He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?



The extended rough spell was his entire sophmore year.

If he was the 2nd best shooting % then that reveals that this is a horrible shooting team and Tubby needs to recruit someone who can shoot.

[bga1]

The reality is that we need Nolen to have an Eric Harris summer, Damien to have a Willie Burton summer and Devoe Joseph and Bostick get better. The guys we have need to get better- also Hoff. Of the new guys maybe Cobbs or Allen can help.

[MRJ]

The reality is that we need Nolen to have an Eric Harris summer, Damien to have a Willie Burton summer and Devoe Joseph and Bostick get better. The guys we have need to get better- also Hoff. Of the new guys maybe Cobbs or Allen can help.

Right on the money with this assessment. Nolen never takes any jumpers because he can't make them. Damien Johnson isn't reliable with a jumper either and Hoff was nowhere to be found with his shooting for about the last three months. Devoe will be good imo. Just needs more time. Hopefully Cobbs, Royce and Rodney are able to shoot a little bit next year because as it stands, we can't hit a darn thing from more than 12 feet out....

[jags1998]

Give me a break. The kid has been a pure shooter his entire life. That's not going to change. He went though an extended rough spell. He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?

Yes. Its called adjustments. The kid had a crap year and he knows it. Blake is a bright kid, a student of the game and everything that all of us experts are saying he already knows.

You find him tomorrow and I bet he's at a gym working on his shot. He'll be back.

[walter]

I want Blake etal. to be successful and hope you are right and it is simply a sophomore slump.

[Section201]

Give me a break. The kid has been a pure shooter his entire life. That's not going to change. He went though an extended rough spell. He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?

That Blake was second best 3 point shooter on our team tells me we dont have many good shooters. 34% wont cut it for our designated 3 pointer. westy was at 35% Respectable numbers but not like the 42% blake hit as a frosh.

[ShowinGoldyLove]

That Blake was second best 3 point shooter on our team tells me we dont have many good shooters. 34% wont cut it for our designated 3 pointer. westy was at 35% Respectable numbers but not like the 42% blake hit as a frosh.
Agreed.

[Monty519]

Blake Hoffarber will be back next season, the kid's been a shooter forever, he'll find that range again. I'm sure over the offseason he'll work with coaches on getting his shot off under duress . Joseph will be much more counted upon for scoring and shooting. I think Bostick will be more prepared next season to contribute more consistently. Westbrook will be better when he's not the only guy who can score on a regular basis. Expect a MUCH improve shooting output next season.

[Goldteam]

we need an inside game and some guys who can break you down.....that opens up the 3 pointers

our 3's are always forced and with hands all over you

we need a new point guard somehow and we mbawke to be a man in the middle

[BarnBoy]

Sorry for my ignorance. I have been following this board for months.

Who is Bryant Allen?

I thought next years recruits were Royce, Rodney, Trevor, and Justin Cobbs? Is Allen 2010?

[jags1998]

we need an inside game and some guys who can break you down.....that opens up the 3 pointers

our 3's are always forced and with hands all over you

we need a new point guard somehow and we mbawke to be a man in the middle

I've seen Trevor play a few times and I KNOW that he will be a crowd favorite and a MAN in the middle - the kid should have been here in the first place.

[MinnMarchDTF]

Sorry for my ignorance. I have been following this board for months.

Who is Bryant Allen?

I thought next years recruits were Royce, Rodney, Trevor, and Justin Cobbs? Is Allen 2010?

He's an ATH recruit for the football team that is also a pretty good basketball player (under consideration for Mr. Basketball in MO). He may be a two sport athlete at the U.

[Monty519]

Sorry for my ignorance. I have been following this board for months.

Who is Bryant Allen?

I thought next years recruits were Royce, Rodney, Trevor, and Justin Cobbs? Is Allen 2010?

He was recruited by Brewster for football, but he's also a highly rated basketball recruit. Tubby said he would allow him on the team on his football scholarship.

[BarnBoy]

Nice. Added bonus for the B-ball team.

[Mikie S]

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Where will our shooters be next year? Can Blake return to the planet and his previous skill level? Can Al, Damien, and Westy improve over the next 7-8 months? Can Cobbs shoot? I dont see Mbakwe, White or Williams as any shooting improvement.

I do see the team as being better and stronger next year but geeeez, who is going to make a few 3's?


The Gophers don't need another 3-point shooter, just someone ... anyone ... who can make an open 12+ footer to take some of the load off LW.

So, Damian, Paul, Ralph, Al, Devoe, Devron ...work on that mid-range shot.

Blake, you work on the three.

[97alumni]

Yeah we need a real offensive go to guy. But I have to think the guys got a taste of the NCAA's and there will be a marked improvement in the off season.

Can't wait until next year!

[bga1]

Bryant Allen is perhaps the Missouri player of the year and shot 50% from the 3 point line this year.

[walter]

Bryant Allen is perhaps the Missouri player of the year and shot 50% from the 3 point line this year.

That's what I heard - the problem is he isn't supposed to be available till after the football season and hopefully we will be bowling late next year. ;)

[cncmin]

That's what I heard - the problem is he isn't supposed to be available till after the football season and hopefully we will be bowling late next year. ;)

I'm excited as all hell to see Bryant Allen catching passes on the football squad. That guy is a tremendous athlete. To see him hit some 3's would be icing on the cake.

[MNSnowman]

I want Blake etal. to be successful and hope you are right and it is simply a sophomore slump.Okay. But in another post (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showpost.php?p=47210&postcount=5), you're calling for Blake to leave. Either we chalk it up to emotions after a loss that many of us are still resolving or you're pulling a Sid: "On the one hand, I think Blake leaves next year (or hope he leaves) but I sure hope he gets better next year." :confused:

[walter]

Okay. But in another post (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showpost.php?p=47210&postcount=5), you're calling for Blake to leave. Either we chalk it up to emotions after a loss that many of us are still resolving or you're pulling a Sid: "On the one hand, I think Blake leaves next year (or hope he leaves) but I sure hope he gets better next year." :confused:

I didn't call for him to leave - I simply stated that it wouldn't be bad if he did - I don't think we would lose much if he plays the way he did this year. I don't think he will leave and I have nothing personal against the kid, heck I like the guy; I just want him to shoot the way he did as a frosh.

If he returns to the shooter he was as a freshmen, then I think he will definitely have a role as a 6,7,8 man off the bench. If he cannot hit the shot then I don't think he should see the floor.

no offense intended

[ShowinGoldyLove]

I didn't call for him to leave - I simply stated that it wouldn't be bad if he did
I wouldn't like to lose a guy that is tied as your 3rd leading scorer at 7 pts/game, 3 rebounds/game, not to mention probably the most fundamentally sound player on the team.

[walter]

I wouldn't like to lose a guy that is tied as your 3rd leading scorer at 7 pts/game, 3 rebounds/game, not to mention probably the most fundamentally sound player on the team.

How can you be the most fundamentally sound and have 40 TO's to 40 assists? Travis Busch is a better example and he should have taken some of Hoffarbers minutes.

[walter]

Take a look at the Big Ten stats and it will tell you that the Gophers problem is primarily shooting and 3-pt defense.

http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2008-2009/confonly.html

It may seem that I have been harping on Hoffarber, he did go badly cold - it happens. The team as whole is insufficient in shooting. We just don't have many shooters and Blake was a shooter as a frosh and hopefully will return as a Junior, because the gophers need help in this area badly.

[MNSnowman]

no offense intendedNor any taken. Just seems like your assessment of those players' value is harsher than called for ... saying Hoffarber, Busch, etc are "not worth the bench space" just doesn't seem to square with some of your later posts. I suspect that there's some immediate post-game frustration that spilled out. If so, acknowledging that in the other thread (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?t=4276&page=2) might put an end to the rancor.

[walter]

Nor any taken. Just seems like your assessment of those players' value is harsher than called for ... saying Hoffarber, Busch, etc are "not worth the bench space" just doesn't seem to square with some of your later posts. I suspect that there's some immediate post-game frustration that spilled out. If so, acknowledging that in the other thread (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?t=4276&page=2) might put an end to the rancor.


If Hoffarber cannot get his shot back - If he cannot return to being a threat at the arc - If he cannot return to looking to take the shot, then he should not see the floor. That is what he can bring to the team - its not defense, passing, rebounding, penetrating, bringing the ball up the court, etc. His role is to look for and hit the three point shot. If he is unable to do that, then he should not get minutes. I applaud Tubby for sticking with him, however I do not know that he will for long if Blake continues to struggle or if there is a better alternative arriving.

[TruthTeller]

Give me a break. The kid has been a pure shooter his entire life. That's not going to change. He went though an extended rough spell. He was still tied for the 2nd best shooting % on the team, what's that tell you?

The team % is not very good, thats what.

[freshtrout]

The extended rough spell was his entire sophmore year.

If he was the 2nd best shooting % then that reveals that this is a horrible shooting team and Tubby needs to recruit someone who can shoot.

Really? Did you catch the Louisville game Walter?

[walter]

Really? Did you catch the Louisville game Walter?

the gopher - louisville game - yes i did

[jovs]

Somehow both Nolen and Hoffarber lost their shooting confidence. Nolen looked absolutely terrible shooting from the outside most of the season. Was this the first year the three point line as moved out. Were they a little uncomfortable with it because it was new.