Big Ten men's basketball head coach salaries

dpodoll68 said:

Since the Tubby haters like to incorrectly cite salary data and use that as ammunition against him, I thought I would provide some actual, sourced salary data to combat their spreading of lies. I've done my due diligence and provided 3 independent sources for each salary figure. If this were kept as a sticky at the top of the forum, or somewhere else where it would be easily accessible, that would be great. It would be easy to consult every time the propaganda and lie machine starts spinning again.

1. Tom Izzo - ~$3.49 mil
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2010/11/michigan_state_coach_tom_izzo_6.html
http://www.therichest.org/sports/highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...onic-coach-tom-izzo-michigan-state/52256690/1

2. Thad Matta - ~$2.5 mil
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/03/ohio_state_basketball_coach_th.html
http://balljunkie.com/2011/03/07/college-basketballs-highest-paid-coaches/
http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/sports-highestpaidcollegebasketballcoaches/7/

3. Matt Painter - ~$2.3 mil
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=13266518
http://www.purdueexponent.org/sports/mens/article_7da682ab-f0a2-5b34-ade3-5a75180bf31b.html
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...matt-painter-raise-loyalty-big-ten-missouri/1

4. Tom Crean - ~$2.24 mil
http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/21/a-closer-look-at-tom-creans-10-year-deal/
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3324439
http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2011/3/16/2052185/wells-hit-piece-on-indianas-tom-crean-misses-the-mark

5. Bo Ryan - ~$2.1 mil
http://www.wiscnews.com/portagedail...cle_688792f0-0a8b-11e1-ad47-001cc4c03286.html
http://www.wrn.com/2011/11/badgers-ryan-surpasses-2-million-in-yearly-salary/
http://badgerherald.com/news/2011/11/09/ryan_receives_pay_ra.php

T-6. Tubby Smith - ~$1.8 mil
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/di...niversity-of-minnesota-football-coach-search/
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/01/when_it_comes_t.php
http://college-basketball-coach.pikimal.com/orlando-tubby-smith

T-6. John Beilein - ~$1.8 mil
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20110129/OPINION03/101290383
http://businessinsider.com/highest-paid-coaches-in-college-basketball-2011-12?op=1
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2011/3...ighest-paid-coach-in-the-2011-ncaa-tournament (cites 2011 salary, salary increases $100 k each year)

8. Bruce Weber - ~$1.5 mil
http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2011-10-27/pay-raise-weber.html
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2011/3...ighest-paid-coach-in-the-2011-ncaa-tournament
http://www.ehow.com/info_8451712_average-college-coachs-salary.html

9. Fran McCaffery - ~$1.1 mil
http://hawkcentral.com/2010/08/25/iowa-basketball-ui-releases-fran-mccafferys-contract/
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2010-03-28-iowa-fran-mccaffery_N.htm
http://thegazette.com/2010/03/29/fran-mccaffery-press-conference-transcript/

10. Doc Sadler - ~$900 k
http://huskerextra.com/sports/mens-basketball/article_f589fcb0-0de7-59f2-b26d-0d31564a2a30.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6354189
http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/salary-by-the-numbers-head-coaches-pay-1.2642333

11/12. Bill Carmody/Pat Chambers - unknown

Salary figures unknown. Carmody has been reported to make around $1.1 mil (http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2010/2/12/1303373/2010/2/12/1303373/forever-dechellis) and while Chambers' salary is unknown, his predecessor Ed DeChellis made around $650 k (http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2010/2/12/1303373/2010/2/12/1303373/forever-dechellis). Thus, Chambers is almost assuredly the lowest, while Carmody may be higher, possibly as high as #9.

There are 12 head coaches in the Big Ten. In a set of 12 items, 6.5 is average. Since Tubby is either tied for 6th or in 6th alone slightly ahead of Beilein (depending on which source you believe), he is at or slightly above average among Big Ten coaches. Of the ten known salaries, the average is ~$1.97 mil. By that standard, Tubby is actually slightly below average in Big Ten salary among head coaches. Of the ten known salaries, the median is $1.8 mil. By that standard, Tubby is right at the average Big Ten salary among head coaches. If you combine all three metrics, he is right at the average Big Ten salary among head coaches. Please remember this figures and consult this list whenever you feel like lying about Tubby some more.

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Whathavewedone said:

Next please try removing cranium from rectum before you accuse people of lying.

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Whathavewedone said:

A roughly $2 million annual salary isn't huge to you? Dang I wish I had your cash. And that puts him in the top 10-12 of coaching salaries depending on the source you look at. The 2 B1G coaches ahead of him are winning conf. titles and going to FF's.

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Rouser said:

Good link. I was wondering where the Tubby at $2MM salary came from? I thought $1.8MM was what I ready in years past. Make no mitake, its a nice salary and essentially we should be finishing 6th or better most years...with an occassional run for the title.

Tubby certainly provided instant improvement as he took a dreadful squad and turned it into a winning squad. Tubby has also managed to beat all the teams that Monson could never beat (Illinois, @ Wisky, MSU (Tourney) plus Tubby has always pulled a big win each year it seems. His main problem, not winning enough big games at home..as SS pointed out. I would like to think that if he pulled out even half of the home losses and turned them into wins, everyone would have a vastly different take right now. But he didn't.. so it is what it is. One thing is certain, for this season to be considered any kind of success, he will need to pull off at least one big home win yet this season...

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GopherGod said:

According to the searchable site listed below his salary for the 2010-2011 year was $1,998,113.21, so essentially 2 million.


http://extra.twincities.com/car/salaries/default.aspx

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Winnipegopher said:

http://extra.twincities.com/car/salaries/default.aspx

Interesting. Search only coach and you can see the salaries of all the different coaches in the system. Tubby's assistants may be a little underpaid if you compare to football. Perhaps that is the norm in basketball.

Most egregious stat is that Borton makes 190 000 more than Lucia.

520 000 is an insane amount for a WBB coach who is not a superstar. That has to rub the rest of the coaches the wrong way.

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CrocShots said:

There's been a ton of commotion with Bruce Weber down here. It was said on the radio this morning that boosters wouldn't mind fitting the bill for his $3.5 million buyout.

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dpodoll68 said:

Cranium never anywhere near rectum and firmly atop shoulders. Thanks though.

And I'm not "accusing" you of lying. I'm flat-out stating that you were lying. You didn't qualify your statement with "from what I've seen" or "from what I could find". You stated things that were not factual as though they were facts. You pretended to have greater knowledge of the facts than you did. Both are lying and disingenuous where I come from. The post, for those who may not have seen it:



Not a single thing in that post is factual, and you emphatically stated all of it as though it were. Don't feel too badly, though. You're far from the only person who spreads lies and propaganda about Tubby on a daily basis. It happens here as well as a lot of other places. As someone who is interested in discussing issues from a factual point of view, I finally got tired of it and decided to combat it.

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Whathavewedone said:

You are a complete anal orifice.

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Whathavewedone said:

I found teh most accurate info I could, and used it. That is in NO WAY lying.

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Whathavewedone said:

As to your reply, it is not my problem if you poorly express your thoughts. The way the response was written reads as though you did not think it was a huge investment.

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scools12 said:

regardless of Tubby's salary I don't think he was hired to finish 6th or lower on a regualr basis.

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scools12 said:

regardless of Tubby's salary I don't think he was hired to finish 6th or lower on a regular basis.

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scools12 said:

regardless of Tubby's salary I don't think he was hired to finish 6th or lower on a regular basis.

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Stan said:

Neither was Monson.

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Monty519 said:

Weren't the discussions on $2 million if extended? I don't know if it goes above that.

But beyond that, does it really matter if the coach is paid $2 mil or $1.5 mil? A salary doesn't win games. The reality is, a salary is just representative of your resume, not what you currently bring to the table. Tubby is going to make more money than a lot of coaches regardless because he has the full resume to back it up.

This is just how it is in almost any business industry. Experience = $$$$, even if you are some hot shot in the lower ranks, you aren't gonna get as much as an experienced manager who has produced solid results for 20 years at every level. And a bad year or two isn't gonna suddenly make worth half of your salary.

I think people are getting a little too hung up on how much he's making.

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minngg said:

Here is a claim. When Tubby was hired he made more money than everyone in the league except Izzo. More than Ryan, more than Matta. He was second in the league and in the top 10 nationally. His last year in KY he was the highest paid coach in the country.

That means that over his tenure here (this is his 5th year) he has made more money than all but maybe 2 or 3 coaches.

So, for the fact guys, check this out....who has the least amount of conference wins per salary dollar in the country over the past 4 years? Any wild guesses? Any facts around this?

Showing a current salary chart does nothing for what a guy was paid while producing subpar results. Tubby, if extended will get a raise. Bank on that. It is a cycle, just like salaries in every sport. When signed he was 2nd in the conference in salary and over the past 4 years he made more than most.

I'll look for some facts on conference wins per salary dollar over the past 4 years. If Tubby had a good number of wins per salary dollar I will say he is not overpaid.

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dpodoll68 said:

This post is essentially what I've been trying to say all along, but couldn't elucidate as well as you. Thank you. The entire salary discussion is a red herring. It's entirely irrelevant to anyone but Tubby and his superiors, so I wish people would stop bringing it up altogether. However, since people have been insisting on injecting it into the conversation on a daily basis, I will continue to insist that they do so from a factual standpoint.

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scher215 said:

So if Tubby made only $500,000 per year you'd be his biggest fan? You're definition of a successful coach is based on wins per dollar?

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minngg said:

What did one guy say he was paid in the top 5 now??? Don't include most Tubby detractors. I never said it because I know the stats, but you cannot ignore that over the period of his tenure he was in the top 5 in earnings. That is a fact you should acknoledge if you want fairness as you say you do.

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