The Barn no longer an intimidating place for opponents

[Art Vandelay]

Unless your High Point, Georgia Southern, or Bowling Green, the Barn is no longer a tough venue for an opponent to win. How many games have they lost at home the past 5-6 years?? Heck, even Tubby can't beat anyone of significance at home. I wonder if it will put an end to all the cliches on BTN or ESPN about the Barn being "a hostile environment". Tubby needs a contract with Under Armour "WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!!"

[UofM Fan]

It's tough to get anything going from a crowd perspective when we shoot like we did tonight. In my experience going to games at the barn the crowd feeds off made shots followed by pressure D. Tubby's got the pressure D going but we have not provided anything offensively to get the crowd going or to allow us to consistantly set up pressure.

[GortonsFisherman011]

Agreed UofM Fan, you could just tell the place was ready to explode when we had the deficit down to only 5 in the second half and couldn't make a bucket. Gotta give it to Purdue though, they really hit the clutch shots to kill the momentum.

[mnboiler]

Art that is dumb post. Of course the Barn is tough place to win. What happened tonight is that the Boilers came out and took the crowd out of it. The lay-out of the Barn is hostile to the oppenents. The fans are right on top of you.

And what is your idea on how to fix the the lack of a "hostile environment" build a new NBA style arena? Relax the Barn is one of the temples of college basketball.

[Gopher]

Art that is dumb post. Of course the Barn is tough place to win. What happened tonight is that the Boilers came out and took the crowd out of it. The lay-out of the Barn is hostile to the oppenents. The fans are right on top of you.

And what is your idea on how to fix the the lack of a "hostile environment" build a new NBA style arena? Relax the Barn is one of the temples of college basketball.

It might help if we had a good basketball program again as well. We'll see if that's possible.

[TheDinkytowner]

It might help if we had a good basketball program again as well. We'll see if that's possible.

Gopher = Pantherhawk (aka waituntilnextyearagain)

Carver hawkeye arena blows.

[Art Vandelay]

Art that is dumb post. Of course the Barn is tough place to win. What happened tonight is that the Boilers came out and took the crowd out of it. The lay-out of the Barn is hostile to the oppenents. The fans are right on top of you.

And what is your idea on how to fix the the lack of a "hostile environment" build a new NBA style arena? Relax the Barn is one of the temples of college basketball.


I beg to differ. The last legitimate B10 title was 27 years ago. It used to be tough but not anymore.

[UofM Fan]

Gopher, No one wants to hear your unsubstantiated perspective, so why don't you keep your comments to yourself.

[Gopher]

Gopher, No one wants to hear your unsubstantiated perspective, so why don't you keep your comments to yourself.

I'll say what I want.

[mnboiler]

That are the Gopher 16-3 in Tubby's second year. Wow, you are overreacting, give him a few years yet let him get all of HIS players in his system. Things will come together. The Gophers will be fine.

[TheDinkytowner]

I'll say what I want.

No troll food for you!

[UofM Fan]

As long as you're saying it to yourself and not posting it I'm fine with that.

[WriterGoph]

Art, why don't you take Gopher, goldy2009 and gophermanic and go find a few pairs of cement shoes? I know a great spot right near campus where you boys can go for a swim.

[Art Vandelay]

Why? Because I made a fair point?

LOL!!! Keep on being delusional....

[Plinnius]

Art that is dumb post. Of course the Barn is tough place to win. What happened tonight is that the Boilers came out and took the crowd out of it. The lay-out of the Barn is hostile to the oppenents. The fans are right on top of you.

And what is your idea on how to fix the the lack of a "hostile environment" build a new NBA style arena? Relax the Barn is one of the temples of college basketball.

Nah, the Barn sucks complete ass, always has, and probably does need to go.

If it's such great home court advantage, how come we've never played especially well there? How many Big Ten opponents have we just dominated at the Barn? We've won just a single game at Assembly Hall in 30 years. Wisconsin has just two wins against Purdue in 40+ years at Mackey. How many games has Wisconsin lost at Kohl Center?

Those are examples of a great home court advantage. Prove to me why the Barn is such a great home court advantage. Otherwise, it's just a myth.

[Gopher]

That are the Gopher 16-3 in Tubby's second year. Wow, you are overreacting, give him a few years yet let him get all of HIS players in his system. Things will come together. The Gophers will be fine.

Do you actually believe that th Gophers can consistently challenge for Big Ten Titles, when it's NEVER happened before? Are you saying this to appease us? Make us feel better? What? 16-3 means nothing. Only the final record counts. Look at the schedule, this team may very well end up in the NIT. 16-3?

[TheDinkytowner]

Do you actually believe that th Gophers can consistently challenge for Big Ten Titles, when it's NEVER happened before? Are you saying this to appease us? Make us feel better? What? 16-3 means nothing. Only the final record counts. Look at the schedule, this team may very well end up in the NIT. 16-3?

Gopher = Pantherhawk He's an Iowa troll who has been banned many times before.

Please do not feed!

Also, Iowa basketball blows.

[Goldy74s]

That is correct. With no shots to cheer, it is really hard to get into a game.

[Art Vandelay]

Do you actually believe that th Gophers can consistently challenge for Big Ten Titles, when it's NEVER happened before? Are you saying this to appease us? Make us feel better? What? 16-3 means nothing. Only the final record counts. Look at the schedule, this team may very well end up in the NIT. 16-3?

I concur. The Gophs haven't won an NCAA Tournament game in over a decade and have only been there once in that time. How many NCAA appearances do they have in the last 30-35 years, even counting the Clem years that technically don't count?? Like 6 or 7?? That one every 5-6 years....

[TheDinkytowner]

Originally Posted by Gopher
Do you actually believe that th Gophers can consistently challenge for Big Ten Titles, when it's NEVER happened before? Are you saying this to appease us? Make us feel better? What? 16-3 means nothing. Only the final record counts. Look at the schedule, this team may very well end up in the NIT. 16-3?


I concur. The Gophs haven't won an NCAA Tournament game in over a decade and have only been there once in that time. How many NCAA appearances do they have in the last 30-35 years, even counting the Clem years that technically don't count?? Like 6 or 7?? That one every 5-6 years....


Art Vandeley concurs with Pantherhawk (aka waituntilnextyearagain).

Why is this not surprising????

[WriterGoph]

Art, seriously please end your miserable existence. As far as I can tell, all your life entails is coming on GHole to post negative stuff after losses or when something else bad takes place. Seriously, get over the fact that nobody would go to prom with you. Take a deep breath and (for the sake of the rest of the population).......don't exhale.

Please don't waste any more of our precious oxygen.

[mnboiler]

Do you actually believe that th Gophers can consistently challenge for Big Ten Titles, when it's NEVER happened before? Are you saying this to appease us? Make us feel better? What? 16-3 means nothing. Only the final record counts. Look at the schedule, this team may very well end up in the NIT. 16-3?

Wow, relax. I see these same type of posts everytime Purdue losses everyone over reacts. It's dumb.

And yes I think Tubby, assuming he sticks around for another 7-8 year will have the Gophers challening for a Big Ten Title year in and year out. That's not to say he will have the Gophers in it until the last weekend of Big Ten play every year. Hell even this year they aren't out of it.

The selection committee has never subbed a 21 Big Ten team that means the Gopher's need to find just 5 more wins to basically get in, and you are saying that between IU, Iowa, Michigan(which is going the wrong direction right now) and the rest of the Big Ten PLUS the Big Ten Tourney in Indy they can't find 5 wins??!! I will go on record right here right now that Tubby will have this team in the NCAA Tourney. As a matter of fact Gopher I will bet you on it.

[Art Vandelay]

Art, seriously please end your miserable existence. As far as I can tell, all your life entails is coming on GHole to post negative stuff after losses or when something else bad takes place. Seriously, get over the fact that nobody would go to prom with you. Take a deep breath and (for the sake of the rest of the population).......don't exhale.

Please don't waste any more of our precious oxygen.


LOL!!!!

[Gopher]

Wow, relax. I see these same type of posts everytime Purdue losses everyone over reacts. It's dumb.

And yes I think Tubby, assuming he sticks around for another 7-8 year will have the Gophers challening for a Big Ten Title year in and year out. That's not to say he will have the Gophers in it until the last weekend of Big Ten play every year. Hell even this year they aren't out of it.

The selection committee has never subbed a 21 Big Ten team that means the Gopher's need to find just 5 more wins to basically get in, and you are saying that between IU, Iowa, Michigan(which is going the wrong direction right now) and the rest of the Big Ten PLUS the Big Ten Tourney in Indy they can't find 5 wins??!! I will go on record right here right now that Tubby will have this team in the NCAA Tourney. As a matter of fact Gopher I will bet you on it.


It's easy for you to say this. Purdue has had an excellent proram for the last two decades. My Gophers are best known for Clem Haskins and cheating. 9-9 won't get it done, 21 wins or not. They look at the body of work, not just "21 wins". The Gophers non-conference schedule will do them no favors. Their RPI better be in the 20's or forget it. I say 8-10 or 9-9, and another year watching the Gophers play in front of 4000 in a NIT battle. After starting 16-1, it won't be good for the program. But then, what has?

[TheDinkytowner]

It's easy for you to say this. Purdue has had an excellent proram for the last two decades. My Gophers are best known for Clem Haskins and cheating. 9-9 won't get it done, 21 wins or not. They look at the body of work, not just "21 wins". The Gophers non-conference schedule will do them no favors. Their RPI better be in the 20's or forget it. I say 8-10 or 9-9, and another year watching the Gophers play in front of 4000 in a NIT battle. After starting 16-1, it won't be good for the program. But then, what has?


Gopher = Pantherhawk (banned Iowa troll) Iowa basketball blows.

[WriterGoph]

It's easy for you to say this. Purdue has had an excellent proram for the last two decades. My Gophers are best known for Clem Haskins and cheating. 9-9 won't get it done, 21 wins or not. They look at the body of work, not just "21 wins". The Gophers non-conference schedule will do them no favors. Their RPI better be in the 20's or forget it. I say 8-10 or 9-9, and another year watching the Gophers play in front of 4000 in a NIT battle. After starting 16-1, it won't be good for the program. But then, what has?

It's so obvious that this guy isn't a Gophers fan. Please ban him. This is ridiculous.

[mnboiler]

Purdue has had its teams in the last 20 years for sure but so has Minnesota(even though the NCAA says they didn't happen that doesn't change the fact they were in the Final Four after Purdue's last visit). But Purdue has also had some pretty bad teams in Keady's later years do some research. 13-18 in 01/02 7-21 in 04/05. Painter first year in West Lafayette wasn't all roses either, get a clue. Either way when it' all said and done Minnesota will hear it's name called on Selection Sunday and will play the Tourney. If you so certain they aren't then way not back it up with something.

[GoldenHerbs]

It's easy for you to say this. Purdue has had an excellent proram for the last two decades. My Gophers are best known for Clem Haskins and cheating. 9-9 won't get it done, 21 wins or not. They look at the body of work, not just "21 wins". The Gophers non-conference schedule will do them no favors. Their RPI better be in the 20's or forget it. I say 8-10 or 9-9, and another year watching the Gophers play in front of 4000 in a NIT battle. After starting 16-1, it won't be good for the program. But then, what has?

Hey Toolshed, Go milk your goat Ioweee Squaks scum. 16-3 is great, I didnt expect that before the season, after losing 3 seniors who were our top players. We have a young team, and great recruits continuing to come in.

So hate on you lame pathetic lil girl, we will be going deep into the tournament for many years.

[WilliamsArenaGuy]

I make fun of Art more than anyone, but he's right. The Barn is no longer intimidating and hasn't been for quite some time. Teams that are better than the Gophers come in play like they are at home. It sucks. That doesn't mean Tubby won't get that back one day. But right now, it is what it is. If anything, I think we play better on the road.

For this program to be fully back to prominence, we need to beat teams that are better than us at home. Soon.

[SonOfMoonlight]

Sorry we lost to the two best teams in the Big Ten at home. The Barn wasn't intimidating a couple years ago. However, tell PSU and tOSU that the barn isn't an intimidating place to play.

[Art Vandelay]

Sorry we lost to the two best teams in the Big Ten at home. The Barn wasn't intimidating a couple years ago. However, tell PSU and tOSU that the barn isn't an intimidating place to play.

Who cares about PSU and OSU. They're irrelevant in the B10 title chase. Last year, they lost to MSU, IU, Becky, and Illinois at home. Already this year they've lost to MSU and Purdue. That's 6 losses in 13 games. Hmmm...real intimidating. You must win games like tonight to be taken seriously.....

[skoalvikings]

The Barn experience is nothing like it was during the Haskin years. It might take a while to come back. Mmaybe if they added more video board races between slow-moving trains, the good times would come sooner.

[Gopher]

Hey Toolshed, Go milk your goat Ioweee Squaks scum. 16-3 is great, I didnt expect that before the season, after losing 3 seniors who were our top players. We have a young team, and great recruits continuing to come in.

So hate on you lame pathetic lil girl, we will be going deep into the tournament for many years.

Tell me what those three seniors accomplished, except perhaps key roles on the worst Gopher team in history, provided NO leadership, and just were at times selfish players.

[GoldenHerbs]

Tell me what those three seniors accomplished, except perhaps key roles on the worst Gopher team in history, provided NO leadership, and just were at times selfish players.

Worst ever, uh no. We had a 20 win season last year. They were the team, we had nothing when they left except damian johnson and al nolen. Thankfully Tubby's first recruiting class has stepped up and contributed alot, but this team has a bright future, so chill out. Im expecting 7-8 losses.

[GopherLady]

Unless your High Point, Georgia Southern, or Bowling Green, the Barn is no longer a tough venue for an opponent to win. How many games have they lost at home the past 5-6 years?? Heck, even Tubby can't beat anyone of significance at home. I wonder if it will put an end to all the cliches on BTN or ESPN about the Barn being "a hostile environment". Tubby needs a contract with Under Armour "WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!!"

But I see Art's point about the barn not being as tough of a place to play at, and agree with it. When I was in school, you could almost feel the Barn shake, it was so loud, you couldn't hear the person next to you. My first game was one of the most amazing experiences and I got hooked, as a Gopher basketball fan for life (from one game).

The team is drawing big crowds not, the place looked packed, but it was not as loud as I thought 14K people should be. I'm not sure what to attibute it too - too many corporate seats, too many new fans (bandwagoners that may not really have the love for the Gophs), I have no idea - but there is no way we had a home court atmosphere that we should.

I have read many posts, and someone always bring up the comment - well, the crowd couldn't get into it at this game. We're either up, or down by too much, or it was the style of play, etc - that did not matter before. It would be rocking game in and game out.

Do I think it can get back to where it was? Absolutely. With fired up fans, The Barn should (and was) one of the top 5 toughest arenas to play at. I look forward to getting back to that.

[FiveStarFan]

I was at the game and by no means was the barn hostle before or during any point of the game. I am a strong believer in the fact that in order to have one of those buildings we need to suck it up and take some of those "cushy" seats away and have a more involved bigger student section. They are the only ones that make it a tough place to play. Not some old farts that only enjoy spelling out M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A. Look at Cameron indoor. The student body takes up the whole length of the court and are continously in the opponents ear. Purdue seemed like they actually enjoyed it. I could hear coach Painter all the way at my end yelling the whole game. That shouldn't hapen.

[Moonlight]

The gophers are building an excellent program. I'm sure art was not at the game. Any shift in momentum would have carried the team but it never happened. This team has had some great unexpected wins and now are performing about where we thought they would. Losses always bring out the malcontents.

[EG#9]

I noticed that the crowd was very quiet in the first half, but I wasn't surprised. Why? We were stuck on 3 points for like the first 5 minutes of the game...and we had 3 turnovers within the first minute. Purdue got a comfortable lead early and the crowd did respond when the Gophers actually cut the lead to 6 or less on occasion.

If the crowd is watching a poor performance, do you expect cheering? I don't know anywhere that happens. As for where is a "tough place to play" the places that have the most talent and the coaches who complain the most to the officials.

[grunkiejr]

Arena's don't win games. Superior teams win games. If you can show me an arena that has a better than .500 record (and not a team that has a better than .500 record in an arena) then I will agree with you. Program building takes time and we're still in the process. At this point the casual fan is just excited to be having the level of success we are having. Over time expectations are raised and the crowd becomes a bigger part of the game. I remember getting goose bumps prior to big Big Ten games when I was in college during the Clem Haskins era. There was an electicity in the barn that is hard to explain but there was a buzz about the crowd because even though Indiana was coming to the barn we expected a good game and we expected to win. I firmly believe it will come back but that was two years after a final four appearance so the program was clearly coming from a different place than where we are today.

[mnboiler]

One of the reasons Purdue won the game going away was that they were able to take the crowd out of it early. It's a little hard to build any excitement when you only score 2 or more baskets in a row about 3 times. That is what happened with the Duke game for us. When Purdue ran out on the court you literally couldn't hear yourself think the place was so loud, any way Duke only allowed us to score multiple baskets in row about 3 times also and the place was pretty dead. So in conclusion if the Gophers would have got the crowd into it early it would have been a completely different games.

[GoGoGophers]

I am SHOCKED that I logged on to find a thread posted by Art. I was even more surprised to read that it wasn't a rational dissertation about the state of the program and the potential of this young club.

Just more of his lame Gopher bashing. Maybe you can head over to the Bucky site and post more racist *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# about the "thugs" on the Gopher basketball team with your buddy Myles. That'd be more your speed, d!ck.

[inflectionpoint]

Arena's don't win games. Superior teams win games. If you can show me an arena that has a better than .500 record (and not a team that has a better than .500 record in an arena) then I will agree with you. Program building takes time and we're still in the process. At this point the casual fan is just excited to be having the level of success we are having. Over time expectations are raised and the crowd becomes a bigger part of the game. I remember getting goose bumps prior to big Big Ten games when I was in college during the Clem Haskins era. There was an electicity in the barn that is hard to explain but there was a buzz about the crowd because even though Indiana was coming to the barn we expected a good game and we expected to win. I firmly believe it will come back but that was two years after a final four appearance so the program was clearly coming from a different place than where we are today.


The thing is last night, despite the somewhat tough time of 6pm for people, there was that buzz. You could feel it in the concourse like you talk about back in the Clem days. People were in their seats a bit earlier. The student section was basically packed by 5:30. Even in the beginning before the crowd got worn down by its own team, people around us were yelling at random times and getting into it other than clapping for a made shot.

Bottom line is last night I felt that some of the classic buzz was there and the arena was truly ready for bedlam, but the actions on the court never gave us a chance to truly shake. We barely made 2 shots in a row, Purdue hit a momentum blunting shots in the 2nd, and we never were able to cut it to 3.

The Barn is returning. We would have felt it last night, but as has been stated there were few opportunities to "shake".

[Art Vandelay]

I am SHOCKED that I logged on to find a thread posted by Art. I was even more surprised to read that it wasn't a rational dissertation about the state of the program and the potential of this young club.

Just more of his lame Gopher bashing. Maybe you can head over to the Bucky site and post more racist *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# about the "thugs" on the Gopher basketball team with your buddy Myles. That'd be more your speed, d!ck.

Huh? Racist stuff on the Badger board? WTF are you talking about? I don't even know what the Badger's website is - much less post over there. I hate the Sconny Cheesdick's.

GoGo, go take another shot of the kool-aid that you've been drinking since you joined this board....

[Monty519]

The Barn will become intimidating when the team becomes intimidating. You don't turn things around overnight people. To turn it around to the point it has is quite impressive. But to think that suddenly we're gonna become this dominant team that beats EVERYBODY at home is just unrealistic. Give it a couple years and the Barn will become an intimidating place to play cause the team will be intimidating.

[SelectionSunday]

One minor correction, Art. We played Georgia State, not Georgia Southern. Though I do wish it had been Georgia Southern. ... at least their RPI (154) would be helping us quite a bit more than Georgia State's (279).;)

[tikited]

Who cares about PSU and OSU. .

Who cares what you think?

[Art Vandelay]

Who cares what you think?


LOL!!! Obviously you do....

[Dr.Don]

Let me say this about Art V: It is a quote from the movie SECOND HAND LIONS: Michael Caine said to Robert Duvall, about the young boy that came to live with the two eccentric uncles: "Gotta say this about the boy, he sure knows how to p*ss off the relatives." That is all Art V accomplishes.

[Tubtastic]

Erased records or not, the Gophers used to win most all of their games at the barn.
From 1991 to 1997 (5 seasons) they only lost 9 games at the barn (less than two a year). This included the final four season with zero losses but also includes seasons in which the Gophers won many games at home despite not being a highly ranked team at the time.

[Tubtastic]

The atmosphere is coming back but it is not there yet. When I was younger, the team regularly upset better teams (although Clem seemed to have a hell of a time on the road) and the fans were up on their feet at least twice a game and for an extended amount of time (I remember jumping up and down to see on a regular basis when I was younger and shorter).

Now, the dumb corporate time-out interruptions cut in to the excitement that often leads into a time out. I recall roaring crowds into time outs in the past. Many times the crowds promptly returned to a roar coming out of a time out (which has not happened for awhile).

The biggest difference though is that the current crowd is waiting for the team to bring them to a roar whereas the old crowds used to make a ton of noise in hopes that the team would respond with enthusiasm. I'll also add that Clem was a very animated coach and was very good at working up the crowd with technical fouls and by tossing his suit jacket (that was entertaining).

[southfew]

I live in the Twin Cities but am a fan of Wisconsin. I attend the UW-Gopher game every year and sometimes attend one or two other games at the Barn. Last year, at the UW game at the Barn, I was lucky enough to get to sit close to the Badgers' bench. The noise from the band and the student section was overwhelming and I remember thinking that UW would be very lucky to come out with a win.

As someone who sat through Dan Monson's last game against Clemson, sat through their NIT game against Hawaii a few years back, saw a few games thee in the 80s, I can definitely say, from my perspective as a Badger fan and Big Ten college basketball fan, the Barn is a very tough place to play. It got its mojo back last year. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.

[Art Vandelay]

I live in the Twin Cities but am a fan of Wisconsin. I attend the UW-Gopher game every year and sometimes attend one or two other games at the Barn. Last year, at the UW game at the Barn, I was lucky enough to get to sit close to the Badgers' bench. The noise from the band and the student section was overwhelming and I remember thinking that UW would be very lucky to come out with a win.

As someone who sat through Dan Monson's last game against Clemson, sat through their NIT game against Hawaii a few years back, saw a few games thee in the 80s, I can definitely say, from my perspective as a Badger fan and Big Ten college basketball fan, the Barn is a very tough place to play. It got its mojo back last year. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.

Say what you want, but Tubby is 7-6 in conference games at the Barn and 3 of those losses were by double digits, and a 4th was the beatdown by Purdue the other night.

Here are the Gopher's home record in conference play as of late....

2008-2009: 2-2
2007-2008: 5-4
2006-2007: 2-6
2005-2006: 4-4
2004-2005: 6-2

Over the past 4+ seasons they're 19-18 at home vs. B10 opponents, with several blowouts. To me, that does not make the Barn a tough place to play. Was it back in the day?? Sure. You could also blame this on the quality of the team but whose fault is that? It's not Illinois fault the Gophers haven't beat them in this millenium.

Please, until the Gophers win some important games at home, let's stop talking about how intimidating the Barn is. You're simply delusional. It's not 1997 anymore....

[mnboiler]

So Art because you are so smart and all-knowing why don't you inform all the delusional people around you on how to make the Barn a tougher place to play. I'm serious Art tell us. We want to know because I'm sure those at the game would like to contribute on making it tougher place to play. And saying "Be louder" doesn't cut it, every arena could be louder. Say something intellegent for once. You know what after you tell us what you know then email Tubby and Joel because I'm sure they would love to have the Barn be a tougher place to play.

Otherwise if you don't know how to make the Barn a tougher place to play(which I think is the case) shut up about it. Right now you are making yourself look like a complete @$$.

[Art Vandelay]

So Art because you are so smart and all-knowing why don't you inform all the delusional people around you on how to make the Barn a tougher place to play. I'm serious Art tell us. We want to know because I'm sure those at the game would like to contribute on making it tougher place to play. And saying "Be louder" doesn't cut it, every arena could be louder. Say something intellegent for once. You know what after you tell us what you know then email Tubby and Joel because I'm sure they would love to have the Barn be a tougher place to play.

Otherwise if you don't know how to make the Barn a tougher place to play(which I think is the case) shut up about it. Right now you are making yourself look like a complete @$$.

Simple. Win a big game for once.

How am I looking like an a$$? What part of 19-18 (barely .500) over the past 4+ seasons don't you understand? I'm not saying I know how to make it "tougher", it's just a simple fact.

Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? The Barn isn't what it used to be. The statistics back it up. It is what it is....

[GoGoGophers]

Right now you are making yourself look like a complete @$$.

That's the status quo for Art. He's been doing this for years. When the Gophers are winning he's nowhere to be found. He comes back when they lose, and bombards the board with anything and everything anti-Gopher until they get another win. Rinse, repeat.

He's a pathetic Badger fan getting his kicks trolling a rival's fan board. He's the definition of "tool".

[TheDinkytowner]

That's the status quo for Art. He's been doing this for years. When the Gophers are winning he's nowhere to be found. He comes back when they lose, and bombards the board with anything and everything anti-Gopher until they get another win. Rinse, repeat. He's a pathetic Badger fan getting his kicks trolling a rival's fan board. He's the definition of "tool".

Let's put GoGo's clams to the test.

How many posts did Art make after the win in Madison?

One, and only one. (go ahead and check for yourself)

Wanna see it?

Art Vandelay
01-16-2009, 08:27 PM
"Wow, one victory in Madison over Bo Ryan's "worst" team in his tenure and all of a sudden he's a horrible coach. I think a fan of a program that hasn't won an official NCAA Tournament game in over a decade should just take what they can get and move on."

http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?p=20143#post20143

[mnboiler]

Art you didn't answer my question. Just winning a big game will not simple return the Barn to is status as one of the toughest places to play in the nation. Which it is.

As for what the stats say you chose one of the leanest times in program history, changing coaches mid season, right after a major NCAA violation. To get a better picture you will need to back farther. 37 games is not a big enough sample size to get an accurate picture when basketball has been played there for over 80 years.

[GoldenHerbs]

Let's put GoGo's clams to the test.

How many posts did Art make after the win in Madison?

One, and only one. (go ahead and check for yourself)

Wanna see it?

Art Vandelay
01-16-2009, 08:27 PM
"Wow, one victory in Madison over Bo Ryan's "worst" team in his tenure and all of a sudden he's a horrible coach. I think a fan of a program that hasn't won an official NCAA Tournament game in over a decade should just take what they can get and move on."

http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?p=20143#post20143

Ha, what a hater. Its quite amusing

[Dr.Don]

Dear Art,

"Gotta say this about the you: You sure know how to p*ss off people." That is about all Art V accomplishes. Ignore him, Gopher fans. Easier for everyone that way.

[grunkiejr]

Say what you want, but Tubby is 7-6 in conference games at the Barn and 3 of those losses were by double digits, and a 4th was the beatdown by Purdue the other night.

Here are the Gopher's home record in conference play as of late....

2008-2009: 2-2
2007-2008: 5-4
2006-2007: 2-6
2005-2006: 4-4
2004-2005: 6-2

Over the past 4+ seasons they're 19-18 at home vs. B10 opponents, with several blowouts. To me, that does not make the Barn a tough place to play. Was it back in the day?? Sure. You could also blame this on the quality of the team but whose fault is that? It's not Illinois fault the Gophers haven't beat them in this millenium.

Please, until the Gophers win some important games at home, let's stop talking about how intimidating the Barn is. You're simply delusional. It's not 1997 anymore....

I find it funny that you call a Wisconsin fan delusional for saying that Williams Arena is a tough place to play. A fan from a rival school has every incentive to agree with you and downplay the difficulty of playing in an opponents arena so calling him delusional is honestly making me laugh hysterically.

Southfew--Thanks for your input. Despite what Art said, it is appreciated. I've been to Buckyville from time to time and I recognize that you are a good poster on your own team site.

[year of the gopher]

Wow, wow, wow. They lose to the two best teams in the Big Ten at home with a roster of primarily freshman, sophomores, and a couple juniors and the Barn is now a cakewalk for teams. We'll see how that shakes out when Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Michigan and Wisconsin come through. I'm not saying we'll run the table against those teams but we might, and I think 4-1 is very realistic.

I suspect we'll become a more dominant home team next year and if we can maintain the ability to win ugly on the road, we'll be in very good shape.

[MinnesotaMadman]

For whoever said our seniors last year were bad and worthless, you're an idiot. They were our leading scorers. They also provided on-court leadership, which I think is something that is evidently missing from this year's team. They played hard and helped us win 20 games and that's something you have to appreciate and respect.

I agree that the barn will be intimidating when the team is intimidating and I believe we are getting close to being an intimidating team. All we are missing is that F&#% YOU! type player who can create and make his own shot and isn't afraid to take it to the other team. We had that in Vincent Grier in our last run to the NCAA. Before that you had Bobby Jackson. You put a player like that on this team and we are intimidating. You have a player like that on this team who could have made a big shot in the 2nd half and the barn would have gotten really loud.

[GopherSota12]

i am a member of the student section, and i have to say that the barn got pretty loud during our runs when we were actually in it. i am always at the gates 2 hrs or more before the game, and i dont leave untill the band is done playing Minnesota March. dont think many of you can say that.

the "lets go GOPHERS" chants at this game where the loudest ive heard them in a long time.

im not one of the students who jumped on the GOPHER bandwagon since we 16-1. ive always been a crazy fan, good or bad season. and ive traveled to other arenas to watch us play, we have one of the loudest, craziest students sections around. we could use some help from you other season ticket holders or fair weather fans that are attending the game.


GO GOPHERS!!! SKI-U-MAH!

[GopherSota12]

[I]
Say what you want, but Tubby is 7-6 in conference games at the Barn and 3 of those losses were by double digits, and a 4th was the beatdown by Purdue the other night.

Here are the Gopher's home record in conference play as of late....

2008-2009: 2-2
2007-2008: 5-4
2006-2007: 2-6
2005-2006: 4-4
2004-2005: 6-2

Over the past 4+ seasons they're 19-18 at home vs. B10 opponents, with several blowouts. To me, that does not make the Barn a tough place to play. Was it back in the day?? Sure. You could also blame this on the quality of the team but whose fault is that? It's not Illinois fault the Gophers haven't beat them in this millenium.

Please, until the Gophers win some important games at home, let's stop talking about how intimidating the Barn is. You're simply delusional. It's not 1997 anymore....


really wouldnt call losing by 8 a blow out or a beat down, especially considering we shot 27%

[From the Barn]

Buried deep in the AP artcile about the Illinois game:


Weber said he thought his team was a little intimidated.

Hm.

[TheDinkytowner]

Buried deep in the AP artcile about the Illinois game: Weber said he thought his team was a little intimidated. Hm.

Art, why don't you give us your thoughts?

[drambo_eh]

The best thing that somebody said in this post is that when the team becomes more intimidating the Barn will become more intimidating. The team was intimidating against Illinois and the Barn then become intimidating. People playing Duke are intimidated by Cameron, because Duke is playing there. The team makes the building, whether it be by talent or attitude. The Gophers are on their way back to claiming it, and regardless of how many times you put the record of some terrible Monson teams in a post to dispute the intimidation of the Barn, those where some terrible teams. The Barn is intimidating when the team on the floor is intimidating and causes the crowd to get into the game.

[TheDinkytowner]

Art, still waiting for your thoughts...

Originally Posted by From the Barn
Buried deep in the AP artcile about the Illinois game: Weber said he thought his team was a little intimidated. Hm.