Naadir Tharpe Visiting Sept 17th

[Friend Of Tubby]

Ranked #91 overall per Rivals.

[Gopher Warrior]

Plenty of possibilities.

Tharpe is planning on coming for the USC weekend (Oglesby as well)... help us out, Brewster.

Shaping up to be an important next several weeks for us... I believe Tharpe was hanging out at St. John's a couple of days ago.. Lavin has a ton of top guys talking to him, but how many will he reel in this year is the question.. with Tharpe we have an opportunity for him to earn big minutes in year 1... some of the others that might afford him an opportunity to take reigns immediately (like St. John's, ... Rutgers) still have a number of very good point guards they are talking to.. chips will continue to fall - tough to call at this point. One thing is known about the kid - he will be playing with some excellent talent this season at Brewster. They've got a lot of high majors and may add more before the year gets underway...

[Friend Of Tubby]

Shaping up to be an important next several weeks for us... I believe Tharpe was hanging out at St. John's a couple of days ago.. Lavin has a ton of top guys talking to him, but how many will he reel in this year is the question.. with Tharpe we have an opportunity for him to earn big minutes in year 1... some of the others that might afford him an opportunity to take reigns immediately (like St. John's, ... Rutgers) still have a number of very good point guards they are talking to.. chips will continue to fall - tough to call at this point. One thing is known about the kid - he will be playing with some excellent talent this season at Brewster. They've got a lot of high majors and may add more before the year gets underway...

Lavin could sell popsicles to native Alaskans, he's plenty good as a recruiter. Not so good at the W-L results.

Tharpe is visiting somewhere out East on Sept 2nd but I forget where.

[WanderingGopher]

Lavin could sell popsicles to native Alaskans


LOL, no need to be overly PC ... you can still say "eskimos" in this country!

[Gold Vision]

He's visiting Rutger's first. There was a lot of talk early in his recruitment about wanting to stay close to home. Hopefully Mo Walker brings a little familiarity to the squad. So far that connection is 0-1 though. Tubby definitely will be the #1 influence on Tharpe, #2 has got to be playing time. He has got to see how thin we are at PG. Getting him to campus is a huge step.

[Go Gophs eh?]

gotta lock him up, he would be a starter by his sophmore year and get around 15-20 mpg as a freshman. plus hes gotta realize you cant win at rutgers or saint johns right now.

[HLGopher]

Lavin's W-L record is actually very good. 145-78 at UCLA with 6 NCAA appearances in 7 years. Granted, he was at UCLA, but I don't think winning was much of a problem.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Lavin's W-L record is actually very good. 145-78 at UCLA with 6 NCAA appearances in 7 years. Granted, he was at UCLA, but I don't think winning was much of a problem.

I beg to differ. Those UCLA teams were enormously talented. To only win 2 of 3 games with such talented rosters is a disappointment.

[Gopher Warrior]

Tharpe got some ink this afternoon... looks like he can handle some pain.

http://lnhbsides.com/other/ntharpe1.jpg

PS - Rutgers got a 2011 commit this afternoon... was expected, in Malick Kone, a 6'6" wing that plays with DC Assault

[KSBGopher]

From what I've read and seen, the Gopher team acts very much like a family...they do everything together and hang out. That could also influence Tharpe's decision...whether or not he clicks right away with the other Gophs. Of course his high respect for Tubby is going to influence his decision much more, but I expect him to have a very positive experience on his visit...can't wait to hear what he thinks

[Friend Of Tubby]

THARPE VISTING 2

Brewster (N.H.) Academy point guard Naadir Tharpe will visit Rutgers Sept. 2 and Minnesota Sept. 17.

“Basically I want to be a leader,” he said recently. “It doesn’t matter what team you play on, your point guard is supposed to be the leader of your team. I’m gonna try to bring leadership, as well as winning.”

[Gopher Warrior]

Rutgers on a tear... (St. John's with a nice pickup this week too in Maurice Harkless..)

For Rutgers and coach Rice, they got Malick Kone last week.. now Kadeem Jack and today Myles Mack has committed... Mack is a 2011 point guard and should affect the interest between Rutgers and Tharpe... in fact, the word is that Naadir's scheduled visit for this weekend at Rutgers has been cancelled.

There are other schools in play, but this is a 'good' development from the perspective of those that hope Tharpe winds up at Minnesota.

[Gold Vision]

Wow, where did Rutgers come from? That is excellent news if true for the Gophers. How hard is Marquette pushing for Tharpe?

[Go Gophs eh?]

i wouldnt worry about marquette, they did just sign vander blue last year and he'll be their starter for the next 4 years i would guess. Good news for my gophs, and congrats to rutgers on a good class whens the last time they caught a break?

[Friend Of Tubby]

i wouldnt worry about marquette, they did just sign vander blue last year and he'll be their starter for the next 4 years i would guess. Good news for my gophs, and congrats to rutgers on a good class whens the last time they caught a break?

Marquette may not get (or even want) Tharpe but Buzz Williams and staff are very GOOD recruiters.

In the long run, Williams > Crean at Marquette, I think.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Rutgers on a tear... (St. John's with a nice pickup this week too in Maurice Harkless..)

For Rutgers and coach Rice, they got Malick Kone last week.. now Kadeem Jack and today Myles Mack has committed... Mack is a 2011 point guard and should affect the interest between Rutgers and Tharpe... in fact, the word is that Naadir's scheduled visit for this weekend at Rutgers has been cancelled.

There are other schools in play, but this is a 'good' development from the perspective of those that hope Tharpe winds up at Minnesota.

Clipped from Hoomasters:

“I just felt like I should go to Rutgers,” Jack said during the interview. “Start from the ground up and maybe 50 years from now people will start saying Kadeem Jack was that guy that helped Rutgers back to glory.”

[Cydkar]

I think ISU is still hard after Tharpe. Former Brewster teammate (Ejim) there as well. Good to see Rutgers out of the mix and I like Jack's attitude.

[Gopher Warrior]

Wow, where did Rutgers come from? That is excellent news if true for the Gophers. How hard is Marquette pushing for Tharpe?

New coach Mike Rice has a lot to do with it, not to mention a lot of playing time opportunity at Rutgers right now.. (btw, Rice was an assistant coach at Marquette back when I was in school). I look forward to seeing if Rutgers... or Lavin at St. John's.. can get their programs into the conversation of the upper half of BEast bball programs in the coming few years.


i wouldnt worry about marquette, they did just sign vander blue last year and he'll be their starter for the next 4 years i would guess.

As for Marquette.. there has been interest in him (as well as Myles Mack)... but MU is not in desperate need of PG like Minnesota and I hope Tharpe winds up in the Twin Cities. It's feeling like a real possibility. There are some other targets (at various positions) of Marquette that we're on more.

Vander.. He is incredible and is going to have a great time at Marquette and beyond, but I'm not so sure he starts this season and when he does play this year and in the future, I don't see much of it being at point guard.

However, we do have sophomore Junior Cadougan, originally from Canada, who played sparingly last year after making a remarkable comeback later in the season from his surgery after his achilles was blown out about 50 weeks ago. RSCI #47 guy in the 2009 class that was expected to compete for the starting PG job immediately. He's good to go this year.

An athletic freshman from IL, Reggie Smith is another point that could turn out being quite impressive. Could also see senior Dwight Buycks get some run at the point this season.

And next year we'll also have available 6'4" Dave Singleton that could play some point for us - he'll be off the court this year as a walk-on transfer, but has two years of D1 experience.

So, in 2010-11, we're looking at Junior and Singleton as juniors and Reggie as a soph...

[OSUfan]

Clipped from Hoomasters:

“I just felt like I should go to Rutgers,” Jack said during the interview. “Start from the ground up and maybe 50 years from now people will start saying Kadeem Jack was that guy that helped Rutgers back to glory.”

Did I miss the part where Rutgers had glory before?

[Go Gophs eh?]

I think ISU is still hard after Tharpe. Former Brewster teammate (Ejim) there as well. Good to see Rutgers out of the mix and I like Jack's attitude.

Well the last interviews i saw of tharpe he didn't even mention ISU, not that they aren't pursuing him, he just isnt that interested. And the gophs also have a former brewster teammate.

[Down with Goldy]

Tharpe officially canceled his visit to Rutgers. This is good.

[Gopher Warrior]

New article (http://www.nehoopnews.com/news/1022/Tharpe-in-no-rush.php) up at NEhoopsnews.com


"I have no favorites right now. Everything is wide open and everyone has a fair shake," Tharpe stated. He plans on visiting Minnesota officially on September 17th weekend. All the schools have offered except UCLA. He plans on scheduling the other visits at a later date, but said he will definitely visit more than Minnesota.

"I want to wait until after the season to make my decision. I don't want to rush into anything," added Tharpe.

Sure hopes he changes his thinking on timing... wouldn't be the first to do so.

[Chris Monter]

I talked to Brewster head coach Jason Smith earlier today about an upcoming story on Tharpe. Smith said that other schools have shown interest, but the only visit he has planned is with Minnesota, which you would think would give them an edge if he has a good visit in two weeks.

Chris Monter

[underground629]

Really hope we can get him. Seems odd that he doesn't have more offers with the rankings he has. Is it because he committed to Providence and reopened his recruitment? I guess that still doesn't really explain anything. Gopher Warrior, you're usually on top of these kinds of things. Ideas?


I talked to Brewster head coach Jason Smith earlier today about an upcoming story on Tharpe. Smith said that other schools have shown interest, but the only visit he has planned is with Minnesota, which you would think would give them an edge if he has a good visit in two weeks.

Chris Monter

[Gopher Warrior]

Really hope we can get him. Seems odd that he doesn't have more offers with the rankings he has. Is it because he committed to Providence and reopened his recruitment? I guess that still doesn't really explain anything. Gopher Warrior, you're usually on top of these kinds of things. Ideas?

Wouldn't get concerned about who has and who hasn't offered - he'd be great to have. It really does look like a nice fit for Tharpe in Minnesota.

UNLV is there tonight for an in-home with Tharpe... just heard from coach Jason Smith.. and he was thinking this coming Tuesday that Tubby will be at Brewster to say hello.. then of course we've got the visit in a week, including the game vs. USC. Could set up very nicely.

Oglesby is expected as well next weekend.. he'll be at Iowa's game tomorrow along with a few... I think all from the Martin Bros AAU prgoram... Marcus Paige, Adam Woodbury and Mike Gesell. Nice group checking out the Hawkeyes.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Wouldn't get concerned about who has and who hasn't offered - he'd be great to have. It really does look like a nice fit for Tharpe in Minnesota.

UNLV is there tonight for an in-home with Tharpe... just heard from coach Jason Smith.. and he was thinking this coming Tuesday that Tubby will be at Brewster to say hello.. then of course we've got the visit in a week, including the game vs. USC. Could set up very nicely.

Oglesby is expected as well next weekend.. he'll be at Iowa's game tomorrow along with a few... I think all from the Martin Bros AAU prgoram... Marcus Paige, Adam Woodbury and Mike Gesell. Nice group checking out the Hawkeyes.

FWIW Hoopmasters:

Tharpe ... is currently considering Iowa State, Minnesota, N.C. State, Providence, St. John's and Wake Forest.

[jmag21]

That certainly looks like the sort of list of schools we should be able to beat out for a recruit.

[GophersOnTheRise]

I'm definitely biased, but it seems that Minnesota is the best opportunity for him. Potential to be a 3-4 year starter in the Big Ten and play with a friend/old teammate. Hopefully he commits on or right after his visit. Would be a great start to the 2011 recruiting class.

[underground629]

Just seems a little odd that he doesn't have more but I suppose those sites aren't always accurate. In any case, it sounds like we could really use him. He certainly would have a great chance at logging big minutes as a freshman here.


Wouldn't get concerned about who has and who hasn't offered - he'd be great to have. It really does look like a nice fit for Tharpe in Minnesota.

UNLV is there tonight for an in-home with Tharpe... just heard from coach Jason Smith.. and he was thinking this coming Tuesday that Tubby will be at Brewster to say hello.. then of course we've got the visit in a week, including the game vs. USC. Could set up very nicely.

Oglesby is expected as well next weekend.. he'll be at Iowa's game tomorrow along with a few... I think all from the Martin Bros AAU prgoram... Marcus Paige, Adam Woodbury and Mike Gesell. Nice group checking out the Hawkeyes.

[mattw1067]

Keep in mind that Tharpe is pretty bright (I think I read somewhere he made a thirty-something on the ACT?), so he'll probably be taking the academic side of the schools into account to some degree.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Keep in mind that Tharpe is pretty bright (I think I read somewhere he made a thirty-something on the ACT?), so he'll probably be taking the academic side of the schools into account to some degree.

Andre Hollins got 30 on his ACT but Tharpe is a very good student, too.

[Gopher Warrior]

Brewster coach Jason Smith says ... NC State visiting Tharpe tomorrow.

Coaches are very busy right now. Well, maybe not Pearl.. but most are.


Just seems a little odd that he doesn't have more

Your thoughts are reasonable here... but a discussion on possible reasons why many more schools aren't on him probably doesn't serve any good purpose on this forum... that conversation starts, and who knows what wild thoughts people may share.

But, I really do believe that Minnesota and Tharpe look like a great match... I will say this,... others share your thought... including HoopScoop (www.hoopscooponline.com), who said this week Tharpe may be the Most Unheralded when discussing their 'best of the summer awards'.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Tharpe said he models his game after Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant and hopes to bring leadership and a winning attitude wherever he lands.

“Basically I want to be a leader,” he said. “It doesn’t matter what team you play on, your point guard is supposed to be the leader of your team. I’m gonna try to bring leadership, as well as winning.”

Playing time is important, too. So schools like Rutgers and St. John’s that can offer immediate PT in the backcourt are in good shape.

“Those schools don’t have any guards,” he said. “They’re definitely high on my list.”

[MinneMike]

Tharpe said he models his game after Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant and hopes to bring leadership and a winning attitude wherever he lands.

“Basically I want to be a leader,” he said. “It doesn’t matter what team you play on, your point guard is supposed to be the leader of your team. I’m gonna try to bring leadership, as well as winning.”

Playing time is important, too. So schools like Rutgers and St. John’s that can offer immediate PT in the backcourt are in good shape.

“Those schools don’t have any guards,” he said. “They’re definitely high on my list.”

He is a huge Kobe admirer.

[panndder]

http://twitter.com/RyanJamesMN/status/24958578613

[Go Gophs eh?]

then commit naadir. cmonnnnnn

[Friend Of Tubby]

then commit naadir. cmonnnnnn

In most cases (in past 3 years), Gopher commitments have come within a few days of the campus visit.

[Gopher in Texas]

Wish Gophers had two top PGs as recruits. Then first come, first served.

Gophers have to wait for Naadir (IMO) - hope this does not turn out like Cory Joseph.

Chris Monter posted Naadir indicated he would be a late signee.

Question to Chris -

Did Naadir say why he would be a late signee, or would you care to guess why he will be a late signee?

Thanks - I enjoy your posts.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Wish Gophers had two top PGs as recruits. Then first come, first served.

Gophers have to wait for Naadir (IMO) - hope this does not turn out like Cory Joseph.

Chris Monter posted Naadir indicated he would be a late signee.

Question to Chris -

Did Naadir say why he would be a late signee, or would you care to guess why he will be a late signee?

Thanks - I enjoy your posts.

Andre Hollins is 6-2 combo G who plays 1 or 2 spot.

[Gopher in Texas]

Wasn't sure about Hollins - thought he might be a capable PG.

[OSUfan]

I'm wary of guards who don't want to have to earn their PT - those comments from Tharpe about schools not having guards being high on his list is cringe-worthy for me. I've seen Noopy Crater come to OSU from Brewster, feeling he was somehow entitled to PT and then transferred 10 games into the season since he was not starting (he averaged about 13 minutes a game and played in all 10 games). Crater ended up transferring to South Florida where he still wasn't a starter (not yet at least) but played a little more on a lot worse team. Interestingly, four of the Division I-A kids who came out of Brewster the year Crater did have already transferred to another school. Sometimes kids want PT to be easily available for them, but it isn't really much easier at the lower tier Big East schools than they are in the Big Ten (for the most part) no matter what school he goes to. There is competition everywhere & if you don't have competition, you're in a bad program. If you want to go where there's no competition for PT, go ahead and go to a lesser program and enjoy losing most of your conference games.

[Friend Of Tubby]

I'm wary of guards who don't want to have to earn their PT - those comments from Tharpe about schools not having guards being high on his list is cringe-worthy for me. I've seen Noopy Crater come to OSU from Brewster, feeling he was somehow entitled to PT and then transferred 10 games into the season since he was not starting (he averaged about 13 minutes a game and played in all 10 games). Crater ended up transferring to South Florida where he still wasn't a starter (not yet at least) but played a little more on a lot worse team. Interestingly, four of the Division I-A kids who came out of Brewster the year Crater did have already transferred to another school. Sometimes kids want PT to be easily available for them, but it isn't really much easier at the lower tier Big East schools than they are in the Big Ten (for the most part) no matter what school he goes to. There is competition everywhere & if you don't have competition, you're in a bad program. If you want to go where there's no competition for PT, go ahead and go to a lesser program and enjoy losing most of your conference games.

Like Verdell Jones did (is doing) at IU.

[Friend Of Tubby]

... You can make a strong case that the Most Unheralded Player (in 2011 HS class) is 5'11 Naadir Tharpe from Wolfeboro (Brewster Academy) NH, who is one of the few pure top level point guards in the Class of 2011 and is currently getting heavily recruited by only one big time school (the University of Minnesota) ...

[kindofgreen]

<Those UCLA teams were enormously talented. To only win 2 of 3 games with such talented rosters is a disappointment>

Although Lavin had a reputation as helped building the team he inherited it was Romar who was the real closer getting the players to commit to UCLA IRCC.

[Gopher Warrior]

Good: Iowa State just received a commitment from 2011 PG Tavon Sledge.

Not so good: Oklahoma is visiting Tharpe early this week, and Kansas plans to see him on Thursday.

Oklahoma has offered; KU has not as of yet.

[Friend Of Tubby]

Good: Iowa State just received a commitment from 2011 PG Tavon Sledge.

Not so good: Oklahoma is visiting Tharpe early this week, and Kansas plans to see him on Thursday.

Oklahoma has offered; KU has not as of yet.

Capel's program at OU is struggling. KU (of course) is an elite program that recruits are seeking.

[Gold Vision]

After following Tharpe on twitter for a little while, I definitely get the feeling he is loving the new interest. The longer he waits, the less of a chance they have at signing him up. A little frustrating we don't have multiple pure point guard prospects visiting at this point.

[MN1nAZ]

After following Tharpe on twitter for a little while, I definitely get the feeling he is loving the new interest. The longer he waits, the less of a chance they have at signing him up. A little frustrating we don't have multiple pure point guard prospects visiting at this point.

I know that I'm going against the grain on this, but I think that Andre Hollins would be a better player for the Gophers than Tharpe. Hollins will be playing PG his senior year in HS and expects to play point in college. He's bigger than Tharpe, appears mighty quick and long on video, and evidently has a high bb IQ.

Tharpe has a lot of program infomation and has not shown any desire to be a Gopher. I think that it's true that "he is loving the new interest." Nothing wrong with that, but it just seems as though he is trying to decide which suitor will have the fewest drawbacks to him becoming the star.

On the other hand it feels like Hollins is looking at the possibilities that each situation presents and his focus will be on continual improvment for the team that he becomes part of.

I expect that I'm going to get a beatdown for this and that's fair. We all just want to see great Gopher basketball.

[Gold Vision]

I know that I'm going against the grain on this, but I think that Andre Hollins would be a better player for the Gophers than Tharpe. Hollins will be playing PG his senior year in HS and expects to play point in college. He's bigger than Tharpe, appears mighty quick and long on video, and evidently has a high bb IQ.

Tharpe has a lot of program infomation and has not shown any desire to be a Gopher. I think that it's true that "he is loving the new interest." Nothing wrong with that, but it just seems as though he is trying to decide which suitor will have the fewest drawbacks to him becoming the star.

On the other hand it feels like Hollins is looking at the possibilities that each situation presents and his focus will be on continual improvment for the team that he becomes part of.

I expect that I'm going to get a beatdown for this and that's fair. We all just want to see great Gopher basketball.

Tharpe visited Minnesota and said they were his clear leader. How can you say he has no interest?

[Friend Of Tubby]

I know that I'm going against the grain on this, but I think that Andre Hollins would be a better player for the Gophers than Tharpe. Hollins will be playing PG his senior year in HS and expects to play point in college. He's bigger than Tharpe, appears mighty quick and long on video, and evidently has a high bb IQ.

Tharpe has a lot of program infomation and has not shown any desire to be a Gopher. I think that it's true that "he is loving the new interest." Nothing wrong with that, but it just seems as though he is trying to decide which suitor will have the fewest drawbacks to him becoming the star.

On the other hand it feels like Hollins is looking at the possibilities that each situation presents and his focus will be on continual improvment for the team that he becomes part of.

I expect that I'm going to get a beatdown for this and that's fair. We all just want to see great Gopher basketball.

How about both?

With Coleman already at 2/3 (wing), then Hollins at 1/2 (combo) and Tharpe at the 1 (point).

[Gold Vision]

How about both?

With Coleman already at 2/3 (wing), then Hollins at 1/2 (combo) and Tharpe at the 1 (point).


You forgot to tell us how many minutes are available for each.

[MN1nAZ]

How about both?

With Coleman already at 2/3 (wing), then Hollins at 1/2 (combo) and Tharpe at the 1 (point).

Well, with Ogelsby likely out of our reach, it looks like there is plenty of room for Hollins and Tharpe. Frankly Id'e love to see that so that 'Who is most valuable to the Gophers?' could be tested over time.

[GophersOnTheRise]

I know that I'm going against the grain on this, but I think that Andre Hollins would be a better player for the Gophers than Tharpe. Hollins will be playing PG his senior year in HS and expects to play point in college. He's bigger than Tharpe, appears mighty quick and long on video, and evidently has a high bb IQ.

Tharpe has a lot of program infomation and has not shown any desire to be a Gopher. I think that it's true that "he is loving the new interest." Nothing wrong with that, but it just seems as though he is trying to decide which suitor will have the fewest drawbacks to him becoming the star.

On the other hand it feels like Hollins is looking at the possibilities that each situation presents and his focus will be on continual improvment for the team that he becomes part of.

I expect that I'm going to get a beatdown for this and that's fair. We all just want to see great Gopher basketball.

I would be very happy to get either. Hollins has some advatnages over Tharpe, but Tharpe's ability to run an offense and his natural feel at the point guard position is valuable and would be very hard to pass up if he decided he wants to be a Gopher. Like I said though, I would be very happy to get either and would be even more happy to get both. Maybe Hollins has that feel for the position as well and just hasn't had the opportunity to display it yet, only time will tell I guess.

[Gopher in Texas]

I think the Gophers have a good chance with Andre. If a bidding war breaks out for Naadir, it will be like we have a lottery ticket (Kansas, etc. also having tickets). We might land Naadir but I would sure like to have a plan B.

[GophersOnTheRise]

I think the Gophers have a good chance with Andre. If a bidding war breaks out for Naadir, it will be like we have a lottery ticket (Kansas, etc. also having tickets). We might land Naadir but I would sure like to have a plan B.

I would gladly take the first to commit and then continue to recruit the other in anticipation that another scholarship opens up.

[Friend Of Tubby]

You forgot to tell us how many minutes are available for each.

40 minutes are available at each of the 5 positions. Sometimes OT makes it 45.

One might think you would know that?

[Gold Vision]

40 minutes are available at each of the 5 positions. Sometimes OT makes it 45.

One might think you would know that?

One might think that, but you usually tell us anyways.

[Friend Of Tubby]

One might think that, but you usually tell us anyways.

My point is that minutes are EARNED not posted in a thread.