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Justin Gaard
08-22-2010, 10:51 AM
The Big 10 Network analyst joined me on Sunday Sermons this morning, I thought he was very good. First half of interview was on the Gophers, then expanded to Big 10 in general...here's the link to the podcast page if anybody is interested, it's the last 15 minutes or so of the podcast.

http://tinyurl.com/29bpquv

Doogie
08-22-2010, 11:40 AM
JG on the hole ... by choice, or upper-management (the same folks who scoffed at Gophers coverage previously) encourage it? Either way, I know what your passion is for college football. It's high. Now go book Jerry Crasnick, Colin Covert, and Norm Parker, and step on it :)

Replacement Gopher
08-22-2010, 11:41 AM
I like college football and particularly the gophers.

Because of this, I would probably listen to him.

However, those are the same reasons why I wouold not listen to you.

UpnorthGo4
08-22-2010, 12:06 PM
JG on the hole ... by choice, or upper-management (the same folks who scoffed at Gophers coverage previously) encourage it? Either way, I know what your passion is for college football. It's high. Now go book Jerry Crasnick, Colin Covert, and Norm Parker, and step on it :)

I wonder how much longer it will be before Barreiro and Common Man are posting in the Hole? KFAN is obviously hearing footsteps. It must be a very bitter pill that they are having to swallow.

MBAGuy
08-22-2010, 12:15 PM
This was a quality piece. We've been asking for more quality coverage. We can be happy (albeit, with a suspicious eye given the fun they've had at the Gopher's expense) that another media source is attempting to provide said coverage. Or we can be dikcs and turn our nose up at it.

UpnorthGo4
08-22-2010, 12:30 PM
This was a quality piece. We've been asking for more quality coverage. We can be happy (albeit, with a suspicious eye given the fun they've had at the Gopher's expense) that another media source is attempting to provide said coverage. Or we can be dikcs and turn our nose up at it.

When you finally get the upper hand in a relationship where the other party has been the dick you have to make them grovel for awhile. Everyone knows that.

Despite having to take a huge amount of abuse during the last several years in GopherHole Doogie has never stopped posting here, and he has never failed to conduct himself with class. Now Doogie works for ESPN 1500 (KSTP) which is KFAN's only competition. I know where my support is going to go. KFAN has burned a lot of bridges with Gopher fans for many years. They are going to have to work a lot harder than they are currently doing to win many of them back.

JPIIGopher
08-22-2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks JG I enjoy your work on the fan, keep it up, even if you lean Iowa ;)

Justin Gaard
08-22-2010, 12:41 PM
My choice, Doogs. I've got more duties and roles at the station now. If I host a show, especially this time of year, there will be college football talk. I thought Griffith was good, thought people might be interested.

TCF=UnitedWeStand
08-22-2010, 12:46 PM
This will be my last post ever on a thread started by Justin Gaard...

JG, if you are reading this, know that I used to be a devout listener of the show, but I now rarely ever listen to it due to the approach you and Barreiro have taken towards the Gopher football program. I get that it's a little bit of a bit (it has to be because no two people who could be classified as radio industry professionals could possibly be so unprofessional, right?), but it has been beyond juvenile (spiteful/vengeful), to the point of ridiculous, and I can't for the life of me understand why. Can you help me understand?

The Gophers have been mediocre for forever - we get that. But even you, who Doogie claims in a post above to be a huge college football fan, clearly knows so little about the Gopher program, the recruits that are coming/have come in, the existing roster, and yet takes advantage of the platform afforded to you to again, voice ridiculous, vengeful comments against the program that to me, a fan of the program who truly follows it closely, have found to be so aggravating that I can't/won't listen to the show hardly anymore.

So, what are you supposed to do? How about doing a story such as the one the new beat writer for the Strib did the other day on Brandon Kirksey? Or the one Duanne Bennet yesterday? How about talking about how great the event held yesterday was for families?

Maybe you guys have changed your tune(?), and if so, I apologize - again, I wouldn't know because I pretty much quit listening the moment KSTP became part of ESPN.

Good luck on GH. I'm sure others will be more welcoming than I.

MBAGuy
08-22-2010, 12:50 PM
When you finally get the upper hand in a relationship where the other party has been the dick you have to make them grovel for awhile. Everyone knows that.

Despite having to take a huge amount of abuse during the last several years in GopherHole Doogie has never stopped posting here, and he has never failed to conduct himself with class. Now Doogie works for ESPN 1500 (KSTP) which is KFAN's only competition. I know where my support is going to go. KFAN has burned a lot of bridges with Gopher fans for many years. They are going to have to work a lot harder than they are currently doing to win many of them back.

Until or unless ESPN 1500 starts broadcasting Gopher coverage or commentary 24-hours a day, what's the problem with getting it from multiple sources? Will you not listen to KFAN when they have Horton, Cosgrove or a player on since they don't have your support?

I get that we're all a little butthurt with the tone KFAN has taken toward the program. But we've been carping about getting more quality coverage of the Gophers and now we're going to carp that one their biggest in-town detractors is changing its position to more consistently provide quality coverage? WTF does that accomplish?


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diefirma
08-22-2010, 12:52 PM
The Big 10 Network analyst joined me on Sunday Sermons this morning, I thought he was very good. First half of interview was on the Gophers, then expanded to Big 10 in general...here's the link to the podcast page if anybody is interested, it's the last 15 minutes or so of the podcast.

http://tinyurl.com/29bpquv

JG - During the podcast you asked for callers and no one ( well, one guy) called. That is because Gopher fans don't listen to KFAN because

1) KFAN pimps for the Vikings.

2) KFAN mocks and ridicules Gopher football.

3) KFAN mocks and ridicules Coach Brewster.

4) KFAN mocks and ridicules Gopher fans.

5) You are an Iowa fan. Gopher fans hate Iowa.

Here is a clue. If you love your wife or girlfriend you don't want to listen to guys mock and ridicule her. If you are a fan of a sports team you don't want to listen to guys who are totally ignorant of the program mock and ridicule that sports team. You don't want to hear guys running their mouth about teams you hate - if you wanted to hear about Iowa you would tune into that teams station. Speaking for myself it will take a while before I start listening to KFAN. The "talent" at KFAN hates the Gophers and the contempt shows all the time. Who needs it? I, and many others, don't.

Rosemountian
08-22-2010, 12:53 PM
Until or unless ESPN 1500 starts broadcasting Gopher coverage or commentary 24-hours a day, what's the problem with getting it from multiple sources? Will you not listen to KFAN when they have Horton, Cosgrove or a player on since they don't have your support?

I get that we're all a little butthurt with the tone KFAN has taken toward the program. But we've been carping about getting more quality coverage of the Gophers and now we're going to carp that one their biggest in-town detractors is changing its position to more consistently provide quality coverage? WTF does that accomplish?



KFAN will not have Horton, Cosgrove, or a player on. When they start getting them, I will start listening. As long as the program itself is not going to KFAN for coverage, I will not.

I listen to KFAN sometimes for other purposes, gopher football coverage has not been and is not one of them.

Rosemountian
08-22-2010, 12:54 PM
JG - During the podcast you asked for callers and no one ( well, one guy) called. That is because Gopher fans don't listen to KFAN because

1) KFAN pimps for the Vikings.

2) KFAN mocks and ridicules Gopher football.

3) KFAN mocks and ridicules Coach Brewster.

4) You are an Iowa fan. Gopher fans hate Iowa.

Here is a clue. If you love your wife or girlfriend you don't want to listen to guys mock and ridicule her. If you are a fan of a sports team you don't want to listen to guys who are totally ignorant of the program mock and ridicule that sports team. You don't want to hear guys running their mouth about teams you hate - if you wanted to hear about Iowa you would tune into that teams station. Speaking for myself it will take a while before I start listening to KFAN. The "talent" at KFAN hates the Gophers, I assume because they are on another radio station, and the contempt shows all the time. Who needs it? I, and many others, don't.

There is almost 0 gopher fans listening to sunday sermons, how are the fans supposed to know that they are talking gopher football to call in?

MBAGuy
08-22-2010, 01:02 PM
KFAN will not have Horton, Cosgrove, or a player on. When they start getting them, I will start listening. As long as the program itself is not going to KFAN for coverage, I will not.

I listen to KFAN sometimes for other purposes, gopher football coverage has not been and is not one of them.

Kim Royston (http://www.kfan.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=KFAN_PADubay.xml) was on PA on 7/29. He's talked about getting both Horton and Cosgrove on this season.

Look, I've been no fan of KFAN's coverage either. I take some solace that I never buy anything from any businesses that advertise there. But petulantly lashing out isn't really going to accomplish anything except give them more fodder to mock us rubes in the Hole.

gopherdudepart2
08-22-2010, 01:11 PM
This was a good interview. Think it was actually well done and Gaard did a good job asking question's of Griffith. For those that don't know Gaard was scholarship player in Tennis for Iowa so if your going to ridicule guy for supporting his school I think that would be a little unfair. The touchdown jackrabbits thing with the Barrerio show is a bit, I don't think Gaard goes out of his way to ridicule Gophers even if Burrito does.

Maximus
08-22-2010, 01:17 PM
and now we're going to carp that one their biggest in-town detractors is changing its position to more consistently provide quality coverage? WTF does that accomplish?

Changing their position? PA tells a freshman at the U he'd have to be a masochist to get football tickets. Common is Common. Barreiro only refers to the head coach of the program as "Basement Brew". Yep, the tone sure has changed.

Doogie
08-22-2010, 01:19 PM
This will be my last post ever on a thread started by Justin Gaard...

JG, if you are reading this, know that I used to be a devout listener of the show, but I now rarely ever listen to it due to the approach you and Barreiro have taken towards the Gopher football program. I get that it's a little bit of a bit (it has to be because no two people who could be classified as radio industry professionals could possibly be so unprofessional, right?), but it has been beyond juvenile (spiteful/vengeful), to the point of ridiculous, and I can't for the life of me understand why. Can you help me understand?

The Gophers have been mediocre for forever - we get that. But even you, who Doogie claims in a post above to be a huge college football fan, clearly knows so little about the Gopher program, the recruits that are coming/have come in, the existing roster, and yet takes advantage of the platform afforded to you to again, voice ridiculous, vengeful comments against the program that to me, a fan of the program who truly follows it closely, have found to be so aggravating that I can't/won't listen to the show hardly anymore.

So, what are you supposed to do? How about doing a story such as the one the new beat writer for the Strib did the other day on Brandon Kirksey? Or the one Duanne Bennet yesterday? How about talking about how great the event held yesterday was for families?

Maybe you guys have changed your tune(?), and if so, I apologize - again, I wouldn't know because I pretty much quit listening the moment KSTP became part of ESPN.

Good luck on GH. I'm sure others will be more welcoming than I.

I have always deferred to friends Nadine, Matt O'Connell, etc. on recruits. I have never pretended to know a ton about recruits, especially outside the Metro. Here at Ch. 5, we did feature Crawford-Tufts last Monday ... so aware of the local kids some.

As for good feature stories ... hard with limited time on the TV-side, but Sports Wrap is a great platform ... had Weber in 3 weeks ago ... Brewster 2 months ago, and trying again w/ Brew for next Sunday ... put in a request weeks ago ... waiting to hear back.
Will do some features though. I had a great time with Tyler Cropsey, and his connection to M. Garin during the Spring. I would've loved to have done a Kirksey story this summer with him working at TCF, but had no idea. I ask around plenty, but many specific story ideas come from tips. If you have any, let me know. Also, a bit challenging on the video side. We can't shoot practice outside of stretching, and the first few minutes of individual drills. If I wanted to do a 1:25 piece on Kim Royston coming back, how would I have enough video? I also would need a picture or two of him in his cast from April (video of his injury certainly is not available to us ... it's only on the coaches video) ... I swapped emails with Chris, and he doesn't have any.

CP Gopher
08-22-2010, 01:19 PM
Played tennis at Iowa?
That's like playing ice hockey for Kenya.

Doogie
08-22-2010, 01:23 PM
My choice, Doogs. I've got more duties and roles at the station now. If I host a show, especially this time of year, there will be college football talk. I thought Griffith was good, thought people might be interested.

Good to hear. When you receive grief from co-workers/bosses, don't back down. Continue with the college football talk. I've known you for approx. 8 years, and from day one, you've always had a strong passion. Who else drives 4 1/2 hours to Iowa City on a Sat. afternoon, and circles back after a game just to be back for radio duties on a Sunday? Who does the same to see a Notre Dame game 8 hours away?
Glad they are giving you more of an opportunity to kick-butt.

MBAGuy
08-22-2010, 01:27 PM
Changing their position? PA tells a freshman at the U he'd have to be a masochist to get football tickets. Common is Common. Barreiro only refers to the head coach of the program as "Basement Brew". Yep, the tone sure has changed.

Dude, the program is going to get ripped to some extent wherever you go. While trying to find some coverage of the scrimmage yesterday I flipped on the Good Neighbor. While discussing SCSU's potential elimination of their football program, one of the commentators said it was important they keep their program since we only have one D-I program in the state. The other questioned who the D-I program was, because it certainly isn't the Gophers. At which point they all laughed and mockingly apologized to Brew and the U. Again, this was on the flagship station of Gopher sports.

Again, I think Barreiro particularly has gone way out of his way to rip the Gophers. While it's kind of his shtick, he takes it too far and it's in bad taste. But when the program has been largely unsuccessful for 40 years, some ripping is going to happen.

Breakin' The Plane
08-22-2010, 01:47 PM
I have always deferred to friends Nadine, Matt O'Connell, etc. on recruits. I have never pretended to know a ton about recruits, especially outside the Metro. Here at Ch. 5, we did feature Crawford-Tufts last Monday ... so aware of the local kids some.

As for good feature stories ... hard with limited time on the TV-side, but Sports Wrap is a great platform ... had Weber in 3 weeks ago ... Brewster 2 months ago, and trying again w/ Brew for next Sunday ... put in a request weeks ago ... waiting to hear back.
Will do some features though. I had a great time with Tyler Cropsey, and his connection to M. Garin during the Spring. I would've loved to have done a Kirksey story this summer with him working at TCF, but had no idea. I ask around plenty, but many specific story ideas come from tips. If you have any, let me know. Also, a bit challenging on the video side. We can't shoot practice outside of stretching, and the first few minutes of individual drills. If I wanted to do a 1:25 piece on Kim Royston coming back, how would I have enough video? I also would need a picture or two of him in his cast from April (video of his injury certainly is not available to us ... it's only on the coaches video) ... I swapped emails with Chris, and he doesn't have any.
The Tyler Cropsey/Garin story you did was a fantastic human interest story that was about much more than just football. You should be awful proud of that one. As far as Kirksey is concerned, that one's kind of just been sitting there. I don't remember who did it, but they ran a piece on Brewster's FSN show last year about Brandon, showed him flying around the Bank on a forklift and focused on his family as well. It just became a little more relevant when he was elected captain. The stories are out there, you've just got to dig for them. This might be down the road, but I'm really interested to learn more about Beal and how he ended up with the Gophers. Keep up the good work.

Doogie
08-22-2010, 02:10 PM
Thanks ... it worked because the Cropseys & Garins are tremendous people.

minngg
08-22-2010, 02:19 PM
This was a good interview. Think it was actually well done and Gaard did a good job asking question's of Griffith. For those that don't know Gaard was scholarship player in Tennis for Iowa so if your going to ridicule guy for supporting his school I think that would be a little unfair. The touchdown jackrabbits thing with the Barrerio show is a bit, I don't think Gaard goes out of his way to ridicule Gophers even if Burrito does.

You are completely wrong. Gaard is nothing more than a Barreiro shill. If anything, he rips the Gophers more than Barreiro. Then he come on here begging for listeners? KFAN gets very very few listeners on Sundays against Sid. When KFAN makes a serious effort to cover Gopher football without the silly name calling and bits, I will listen. Until then screw them.

Doogie
08-22-2010, 02:26 PM
minngg: have you seen the Sunday numbers? Have you seen the demo (25-54) numbers? Not sure your take on that is completely accurate. Does it matter if they dominate w/ 60+ listeners? In the world the FAN & we operate in, the 25-54 demo is most important by a landslide.

Schnoodler
08-22-2010, 03:26 PM
KFAN used to be the only station I listened to in the car unless I was listening to a game. I don't listen anymore. This is what they deserve.

When the idiots have lost their jobs, maybe then I'll return.

CP Gopher
08-22-2010, 03:59 PM
I used to listen to the morning show, then the one tool made a wise-ass comment to Tripplett about playing in the Rose Bowl. He never would have said it to Tripplett's face. So gutless and unprofessional. I haven't tuned in to KFAN since. Give me 1500 any day.

Zales04
08-22-2010, 04:05 PM
Griffith was a better interview than DiNardo was with Gorg the other day.

bigtenchamps1899
08-22-2010, 04:43 PM
this is the best thread since 'oops...'

i'm not sure who this person with the extraneous 'A' in his last name is, but i wish i was a moderator so i could check his IP against any known sock puppets.

*nukes popcorn and sits back*

Frales
08-22-2010, 05:10 PM
... I too became sick of their anti-gopher rhetoric. Hope they go belly up!

GopherVotary
08-22-2010, 05:24 PM
Too bad the only talent KFAN ever had turned to a life of cocaine. I suppose working with Allen would do that to anyone. What's that station going to do when the Vikings move?

Shielder
08-22-2010, 06:08 PM
Who needs KFAN? Doogie/1500, 830, FringeBT, Gopherhole, Phil Miller and Marcus are good enough for me.

I hope PA & Barrieo(sp?) enjoy covering the NFL player strike next year.

Doogie
08-22-2010, 06:08 PM
If you only knew everything PA has done for Jeff, you would have a completely different take.

josh087
08-22-2010, 06:48 PM
I suppose working with Allen would do that to anyone

Ridiculous statement. Let's not stoop to KFAN's level by making the same type of unnecessary and unsubstanciated cheap-shot comments towards them like they do with our University.

hyaluronic
08-22-2010, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the link, I enjoyed the segment.

Section2
08-22-2010, 07:41 PM
Again, I think Barreiro particularly has gone way out of his way to rip the Gophers. While it's kind of his shtick, he takes it too far and it's in bad taste. But when the program has been largely unsuccessful for 40 years, some ripping is going to happen.

It's old. We don't want to hear some ripping. If they want gopher fans to listen, they need to show some respect. We don't want to wait until we have a great season and for them to then try to capitalize. Do you think the media in Chicago treats cubs fans the same way? How pathetic to have this Gaard kid who's a diehard Iowa fan doing gopher coverage? how many more slaps in the face must we put up with because our program is not Ohio St?

GopherVotary
08-22-2010, 08:35 PM
Gaard is hardly a diehard Iowa fan. He doesn't support their basketball team. He picks and chooses which school he supports in each sport. He'd be more worthy of respect if he was just an Iowa fan in all sports.

tikited
08-22-2010, 11:59 PM
KFAN used to be the only station I listened to in the car unless I was listening to a game. I don't listen anymore. This is what they deserve.

When the idiots have lost their jobs, maybe then I'll return.

Bingo! The only talk station for me, but the point is the same. The bridge was burned a long time ago.

monk10
08-23-2010, 08:26 AM
Did KFAN just come to the GopherHole trying to get support? I guess that goes against what 4thstreet thought as far as needing approval from this community.

minngg
08-23-2010, 09:03 AM
minngg: have you seen the Sunday numbers? Have you seen the demo (25-54) numbers? Not sure your take on that is completely accurate. Does it matter if they dominate w/ 60+ listeners? In the world the FAN & we operate in, the 25-54 demo is most important by a landslide.

Yes I have seen the Sunday numbers. Sid dominates.

positively4thstreet
08-23-2010, 10:10 AM
Did KFAN just come to the GopherHole trying to get support? I guess that goes against what 4thstreet thought as far as needing approval from this community.

I really got in your head, huh?

Max Power
08-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Count me in as a former loyal KFAN listener that switched stations. I wouldn't even mind negative coverage so long as it was at least informed coverage. They have just gone for the cheap/easy way to kill a segment instead of doing any real journalistic work.

Although Gaard is an Iowa guy, he is at least the most informed guy on the station for college football. He needs a little support from the station in order to make it go anywhere though.

monk10
08-23-2010, 10:46 AM
I really got in your head, huh?

I took you for your word that y'all didn't need the approval. Maybe you were just typing really fast during your backpedal?

positively4thstreet
08-23-2010, 10:58 AM
I took you for your word that y'all didn't need the approval. Maybe you were just typing really fast during your backpedal?

Keep changing the argument, clearly it's about justifying it to yourself at this point.

Is that how one gets to 2,000+ posts? Should I be taking notes?

SPCPrice21
08-23-2010, 11:27 AM
KFAN will not have Horton, Cosgrove, or a player on. When they start getting them, I will start listening. As long as the program itself is not going to KFAN for coverage, I will not.

I listen to KFAN sometimes for other purposes, gopher football coverage has not been and is not one of them.

Nate Triplett has been on KFAN a few times. As a Gopher and as a Vikings

monk10
08-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Keep changing the argument, clearly it's about justifying it to yourself at this point.

Is that how one gets to 2,000+ posts? Should I be taking notes?

aw shucks, I have a fan. I do like your new persona. Anytime you want to get back to your original post, I'm game. I'll even let you take notes.

Oneoldgopher
08-23-2010, 11:52 AM
My choice, Doogs. I've got more duties and roles at the station now. If I host a show, especially this time of year, there will be college football talk. I thought Griffith was good, thought people might be interested.

Listening to the fancast right now. Hint -- not all of us can listen on Sundays. Listening now.

positively4thstreet
08-23-2010, 12:02 PM
aw shucks, I have a fan. I do like your new persona. Anytime you want to get back to your original post, I'm game. I'll even let you take notes.

Changing the argument is symptomatic of failure to establish a valid counterpoint, thus I have already won. Forgive me if I don't see a need to proceed any further.

You epitomize the bitter fan; all you seem to post about is your venomous contempt for a sports talk radio station because it doesn't adhere to your one-dimensional homerism. It's a nice day out, go outside.

DLguy
08-23-2010, 12:11 PM
Just finished listening to the podcast. Very good 2 hour show devoted almost entirely to Gopher football. No real cheap shots, and good a great interview with Griffith. I think the FAN is making an effort to talk more Gopher Football. But dont listen to Barriero ever. He is just annoying when it comes to talking about college football, or sports in general.

monk10
08-23-2010, 12:26 PM
Write this tip down before you go outside: When communicating, and things go down a path that divert from the original topic, it is best to ask the person you are speaking with to confirm your understanding of their topic.


So let me understand your thought process. I want to show to the GopherHole community, a community that you state isn't receptive to KFAN, that KFAN is making an attempt to provide more coverage of the the Gophers. And you do that by presenting the information with a barb against the community you are presenting it to? Does that sum up your thought process from your first post?

Maybe my posting wasn't clear since this wasn't a "game" I was trying to "win". I know you got mad when I bolded and capitalized things, so I'll try to avoid that so it doesn't distract from what I care about communicating. I don't think destroying the perception of Gopher football by a bunch of admittedly uninformed sports talk radio personalities can be handled by going outside. Unfortunately for you I'm going to challenge people who think that this is an acceptable behavior and post about it on this medium. I honestly hope that your standards are raised, because when you are challenged by people like me you end up writing into the show and trying to be part of the solution.

I care about quality Gopher coverage. I look forward to the day that I can count on you for that also.

Maximus
08-23-2010, 12:54 PM
Very good 2 hour show devoted almost entirely to Gopher football. No real cheap shots, and good a great interview with Griffith.

Since they were filling in for Barreiro, imagine those two hours if he was there.

Iceland12
08-23-2010, 01:03 PM
:)
Changing the argument is symptomatic of failure to establish a valid counterpoint, thus I have already won. Forgive me if I don't see a need to proceed any further.

You epitomize the bitter fan; all you seem to post about is your venomous contempt for a sports talk radio station because it doesn't adhere to your one-dimensional homerism. It's a nice day out, go outside.

Monk10 a homer? Seriously? Have you taken a look through his posts. He's not exactly one of Brewster's relative. Well that is the epitome of the differences between defenders of KFAN and it's critics around here.

Any criticism or complaints, coming with as many snide and snarky asides qualifies as "the truth". Anyone who complains about the form or substance not the amount of said criticism is either lying or guilty of "one-dimensional homerism".

Monk10 is now a homer?:confused:

Has anybody seen bga1 wearing a "Union Members for Obama" button around here. ;)

positively4thstreet
08-23-2010, 01:14 PM
:)

Monk10 a homer? Seriously? Have you taken a look through his posts. He's not exactly one of Brewster's relative. Well that is the epitome of the differences between defenders of KFAN and it's critics around here.

Any criticism or complaints, coming with as many snide and snarky asides qualifies as "the truth". Anyone who complains about the form or substance not the amount of said criticism is either lying or guilty of "one-dimensional homerism".

Monk10 is now a homer?:confused:

Has anybody seen bga1 wearing a "Union Members for Obama" button around here. ;)


That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.

Iceland12
08-23-2010, 01:18 PM
That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.

Criticism becomes "delusional paranoia " yeah, that's (in honor of Common Man) about "par for the course"..

"Sports, sports, sports we don't CARE about sports and there's nothing you can do to change that!"

monk10
08-23-2010, 01:21 PM
That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.

Just wanted to quote this before you edit it after you realize you came running into this thread trying too hard to divert your name from a mere reference point to how you groupies don't need our approval.

positively4thstreet
08-23-2010, 01:33 PM
Just wanted to quote this before you edit it after you realize you came running into this thread trying too hard to divert your name from a mere reference point to how you groupies don't need our approval.

Meh, the fact that you continued to set bait for me is really much more pathetic than me taking it. It shows that I got under your skin, probably because you know I'm right. Whatever you need to tell yourself though.

monk10
08-23-2010, 01:43 PM
Meh, the fact that you continued to set bait for me is really much more pathetic than me taking it.


You might want to check what you wrote:

This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.

So you set some bait hoping to get a response? I think this sounds about right.


It shows that I got under your skin, probably because you know I'm right. Whatever you need to tell yourself though.


It must really bother you that KFAN gets exposed pretty harshly on this site.


Unregisterd, have I crossed the line from playing with this dude to being an a-hole with it? It feels a bit easy.

auric@heart
08-23-2010, 01:57 PM
Buy a clue. Where are most Gopher Fans listening on Sunday between 9-11? That's right, Coach Brewster and Joel Maturi on WCCO. They get callers.

Just how many Gopher Fans would choose the condescening cynic on kfan?

You sit in, get Howard Griffith on, and we are suppose to care? Tell the management, Dan and whomever is left over at that station you burned the bridge long ago. PA stick with your Vikes, Burrito I don't have a clue what you do, but I do know, We don't need you.

g1976b
08-23-2010, 02:41 PM
I need to admit that my dial is being tuned to KFAN much less than before. Several years ago, it was about all I ever listened to. I agree with many of the above posters...the Gopher coverage has been FAR from objective and is very much uninformed, juvenile and petty. I've grown tired of Barrreiro. He's generally a tough interviewer, and I very much appreciate sarcasm, but his Gopher stuff is stale and let's face it...easy. It takes ZERO talent, time or research to spew the same garbage over and over and over.

That said, I'm also disturbed that many people seem to tout ESPN1500 as the new messiah. Let's not forget they happen to employ Reusse. There is no single person who comes off as more vindictive and petty in his Gopher coverage than Reusse. I can honestly say I will never listen to his show, and very rarely read any of his articles.

Good luck to JG. I truly hope he can try to change the culture at KFAN. It's clear that for a very long time the negativity, name calling and poor coverage have been allowed to flourish.

Hates Monikers
08-23-2010, 02:52 PM
Buy a clue. Where are most Gopher Fans listening on Sunday between 9-11? That's right, Coach Brewster and Joel Maturi on WCCO. They get callers.

Just how many Gopher Fans would choose the condescening cynic on kfan?

You sit in, get Howard Griffith on, and we are suppose to care? Tell the management, Dan and whomever is left over at that station you burned the bridge long ago. PA stick with your Vikes, Burrito I don't have a clue what you do, but I do know, We don't need you.

Count me as one who disagrees with this. KFAN's treatment of the Gophers ticks me off as much as anybody, and Barriero is just plain disgusting when it comes to U of M sports. He clearly doesn't care if he loses us. However, if they want to try to improve their coverage of the Gophers, I'm all for it. I'm convinced that Barriero isn't up to the challenge, but others on the station are. And I encourage Barriero to at least try.

I heard the second half of JG's interview with Griffith, and I thought it was great. I wish I would've heard the first part.

oleboy41
08-23-2010, 02:57 PM
There is 0 reason for a Gopher fan to listen to KFAN for Gopher talk because the people on that station don't know a thing about the team, yet hate the team regardless. Its pretty crazy. I live outside of Chicago and while they don't talk a lot of college football, when they do they're never as synical about any team even though they cover Ill, NW and ND. I simply don't understand why sports guys have so much hate for a CFB program. What people love about CFB isn't the winning and losing, its the tradition, the pride of having a team where your state name and players giving 100% for their team and school, students and former students cheering their team on, etc. I don't get why the media treats the U like an underachieving pro franchise. You'd think they'd actually benefit from a succesful program with a large fanbase as talking about them would bring higher ratings, give them more to write about, and maybe even open the door for them to do more guest spots and what not for the team. They seem intent on hurting a program that could benefit them and it seems stupid. Gaard is an Iowa 'fan' that has participated in the Gopher bashing on KFAN and while this is a step in the right direction, more will need to be done to show real change. KFAN needs a culture change and I'll have to see it over time. We'll see what type of coverage is happening this time next season

UpnorthGo4
08-23-2010, 03:04 PM
That said, I'm also disturbed that many people seem to tout ESPN1500 as the new messiah. Let's not forget they happen to employ Reusse. There is no single person who comes off as more vindictive and petty in his Gopher coverage than Reusse. I can honestly say I will never listen to his show, and very rarely read any of his articles.


I can't stand Reusse's constant ripping of Brewster and Gopher football. I think he enjoys it a little too much. But there is a huge difference between he and Barreiro. For the most part Reusse has informed opinions about Gopher sports. You usually get a smattering of factual information during his tirades. Barreiro has only opinions when he goes on a rant about the Gophers. Nothing more.

Sportsfan24
08-23-2010, 03:35 PM
I have a son who graduated from the University of Minnesota and currently plays for the team. My mother is also a University of Minnesota graduate. I say that to show that I have an emotional stake in the program. With that, I still listen too and call KFAN. Is KFAN personalities annoying how they treat the gopher football program? Yep. It's like a pack mentality. By saying it's a joke program they all get to be collectively lazy and not do any home work. It also show their whore mentality to only cover sports where they have personal financial interest.

With that being said, if listeners don't call (be it negative or positive criticism) it won't change. We should call and promote any station that has gopher coverage. If we do this we can make them have more coverage and compete for gopher listeners. If we don't call or listen there will be no reason for them to cover the gophers.

If it helps, both ESPN and KFAN have been trying to do stories on gopher athletes, Doogie has been trying to put something together on Kim. Anything gopher related I will promote, we all should.

WhatAMaroon
08-23-2010, 04:07 PM
I've been lurking here for quite a while.

I'm glad for any positive coverage, and I was taught to forgive people, so thanks, Justin. If your station is really committed to better Gopher coverage that would be great.

SPCPrice21
08-23-2010, 05:42 PM
It seems like there is a new thread on how KFAN sucks everyday. Its kinda rediculous. lol

Zales04
08-23-2010, 08:23 PM
It helps having a college football fan do the actual interview. I cringe with some of the other guys on KFAN talking college sports, but I really did enjoy this interview. I don't mind some shots at the program, but I get turned off by pot shots on a lot of the shows. A lot of the negativity is not necessary and thrown in for a laugh, that's what gets me to turn the dial.

I'm a Clone anyway, so my 11-2 window is booked.

GopherHomer
08-24-2010, 06:19 AM
The media in this town likes to justify their negative bias by claiming it's unprofessional to be a 'homer.' It's just as unprofessional to write things to antagonize a team or a fanbase....they are subjective fools

Ole
08-24-2010, 07:20 AM
Ok,
I bit. I listened to the podcast. Ok discussion, not up to MV or Doogie's level of knowledge, but then again why would it?
Fact is, Gaard is a squakeye, who somehow thinks he is also a gopher follower. Can't be both without bias, sorry, just can't. Would they have Dave Sinakin do a Vikings preseason game analysis?

Griffith was a fine interview, nothing groundbreaking, but it was a good listen.
The main concern I have is that what little college football knowledge is available at KFAN is relegated to Sunday mornings, and only when the main host is gone, AND, this is a big one, when the discussion comes up on normal weekday programming, Gopher football is slammed and constantly ripped without any knowledge or any incite whatsoever.
Ex:
I thought it was hilarious listening to Barrerio and Gaard analyze around NSD the Gopher's recruiting, they obviously cherrypicked the recruiting services that ranked them the lowest, then went on a tangent about coaching them up! using Iowa 2009 as an example of low ranked recruits being coached to a high level, not mentioning(and I'm sure Gaard knew but didn't say anything) that Iowa's 05' class was rated top 10 nationally, no coincidence they ended up with a nice season last year.

I was an everyday listener of KFAN for years, all through college, up to the 1500 sportstalk programing switch, all day in the car, every morning I would listen online, every ride home I'd listen to Barrerio. No more. I just got sick of the egos and bits, and I couldn't stand the insane ripping and demeaning of the sports program I love any more.

Say what you want about Reusse, he's been a villain to this program too, but it's obvious the olive branch has been extended and at least a truce has been called, and 1500 has some good gopher tidbits here and there. The simple fact that MV and Doogie got together for a segment was gold, i expect more as the football season moves forward.

minngg
08-24-2010, 07:59 AM
Hilarious. Those trying to defend KFAN. Their coverage of Gopher sports is so bad that they have to go to web sites to give us the groundbreaking news that they are going to do a segment on college football. KFAn spends more time on NASCAR than they do on Gopher football. They spend more time on golf than they do on Gopher football.

Remember the old adage, any coverage is better than no coverage? Well it isn't true with KFAN. All you get there is smartasses and hyperbole. Iti s fine to be critical of the program in a professional way. If you listen to KFAN, the last thing they are is professional. It is saracm, bit, sarcasm, bit. This is the kind of coverage the Gophers need? No thanks.

Maverick
08-24-2010, 08:27 AM
There is 0 reason for a Gopher fan to listen to KFAN for Gopher talk because the people on that station don't know a thing about the team, yet hate the team regardless. Its pretty crazy. I live outside of Chicago and while they don't talk a lot of college football, when they do they're never as synical about any team even though they cover Ill, NW and ND. I simply don't understand why sports guys have so much hate for a CFB program. What people love about CFB isn't the winning and losing, its the tradition, the pride of having a team where your state name and players giving 100% for their team and school, students and former students cheering their team on, etc. I don't get why the media treats the U like an underachieving pro franchise. You'd think they'd actually benefit from a succesful program with a large fanbase as talking about them would bring higher ratings, give them more to write about, and maybe even open the door for them to do more guest spots and what not for the team. They seem intent on hurting a program that could benefit them and it seems stupid. Gaard is an Iowa 'fan' that has participated in the Gopher bashing on KFAN and while this is a step in the right direction, more will need to be done to show real change. KFAN needs a culture change and I'll have to see it over time. We'll see what type of coverage is happening this time next season


This is the best "business case" yet for throwing out the old way of Gopher bashing and setting the bar high, and not let popular bandwagon bashing get in the way of smart business objectives.... Oleboy, you are right on when you said the media treats the U like an underachieving pro franchise and have completely lost the "connection" with the home team, the pride and the tradition and the fun of supporting your team win or lose...

Bob_Loblaw
08-24-2010, 10:47 PM
I was also a listener of KFAN awhile ago and I just stopped listening because I didn't really find it that enjoyable. I do still listen to Common every now and then, but Common doesn't even pretend to be a sports guy.

Now, I do agree with Sportsfans take, and I will have no problem going back to KFAN if they have things that i'm interested in. If I would have known about the sermon on sunday, I would have called in. However, I am a consumer (who is a sports nut and used to listen to sports talk radio religiously) and if they want me to keep or start tuning in, that's on them. I am glad Gaard posted this over here and I encourage him to do so. If it is a consistant thing, I'll probably become a listener again.

As far as Dougie, I don't really agree with him on much, but at least he's writing about Gopher football, so keep it up too.

JoeDirt
08-24-2010, 11:39 PM
Gaard, you make me so confused. If I remember right, from long ago, you are an Edina grad. A Minnesota boy who did that tennis program proud. You took your game to Iowa and obviously became a proud Hawkeye, (except for any sport they suck at). Upon graduation you take your (talents) back home, get a gig on local radio and then proceed to rip the livin' snot out of OUR state university's football team. I don't care you're not a Gopher fan but leave the pi$$ing match inside your front door instead of squakin' to the masses in an effort to convince the true fans they root for losers. Now, you in some sort of professional awakening you realize since there is competition on 1500, you should talk Gophers. Are we supposed to eat it up and love it? I choose to listen to ANYBODY talk college football other than your station. Wake up, man! You've burned some bridges. While college football becomes the 2nd most popular sport in the country behind the NFL, we'll all be tuning into "The Herd."

GophBen
08-25-2010, 06:45 AM
I've had no problem in the past pointing out my belief that no one at KFAN knows a damn thing about football in general (PA has access to the Vikings, but understands the sport as well as I understand organic chemistry: not at all) and especially the college game. But this is what we want, isn't it? Actual coverage of the team without the usual inept attempts at snark? They may not have the understanding of MV, but how many people do? I'll listen to the podcasts when Justin points them out, and if they keep it up I may start listening to shows from time to time if I can expect decent coverage of Gopher football.

Oneoldgopher
08-25-2010, 08:15 AM
There is 0 reason for a Gopher fan to listen to KFAN for Gopher talk because the people on that station don't know a thing about the team, yet hate the team regardless. Its pretty crazy. I live outside of Chicago and while they don't talk a lot of college football, when they do they're never as synical about any team even though they cover Ill, NW and ND. I simply don't understand why sports guys have so much hate for a CFB program. What people love about CFB isn't the winning and losing, its the tradition, the pride of having a team where your state name and players giving 100% for their team and school, students and former students cheering their team on, etc. I don't get why the media treats the U like an underachieving pro franchise. You'd think they'd actually benefit from a succesful program with a large fanbase as talking about them would bring higher ratings, give them more to write about, and maybe even open the door for them to do more guest spots and what not for the team. They seem intent on hurting a program that could benefit them and it seems stupid. Gaard is an Iowa 'fan' that has participated in the Gopher bashing on KFAN and while this is a step in the right direction, more will need to be done to show real change. KFAN needs a culture change and I'll have to see it over time. We'll see what type of coverage is happening this time next season

I listened to the segment online. I could not agree with you more. Even though they were talking about the Gophers, they seemed somewhat disconnected to the topic. It seemed like it was mailed in. I would rather listen to 'cco which has always supported the Gophs.