View Full Version : Expect a 40% empty Floyd Stadium @ Middle Tennessee State
gophergv
08-09-2010, 03:35 PM
While MTSU played well at home last year it doesn't seem very intimidating. According to their media guide the stadium seats 30,788. They averaged 19,000 fans excluding the 28k that attended the Memphis game(I assume there is at least some rivalry here). They only reached 62% of capacity for their final game when the team was well on their way to a good year. I just bought 4 tickets today and look forward to further destroying the home field advantage. Go Gophs
underdogs or not, road game or not, there is no excuse to lose this game. get 'er done Brew & Co.
tjgopher
08-09-2010, 03:50 PM
This is the first time a Big Ten team has EVER visited that stadium. I have a hunch the closet MTSU fans will come out of the woodwork for this one. That stadium will be be well more than 60% full. This is likely one of the top three or four biggest home games they've ever played there. It will have a nice crowd.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/tennessee/murfreesboro_floyd1.jpg
Schnauzer
08-09-2010, 03:56 PM
I have never visited "worldstadiums.com". Figured I'd check it out when I saw where that picture came from. On my way to seeing what their coverage of TCF Bank Stadium looked like, I got sidetracked by the fact they list 5 Stadiums in Greenland. Check out the fancy 2,000 capacity Nuuk Stadium in Greenland:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/greenland/nuuk_football.jpg
dance4raiders
08-09-2010, 07:46 PM
Your luck with thinking that only 40% of the stadium will be filled might be put to shame. MTSU is actually expecting a sellout for this game. It will definitely be close to capacity.
dance4raiders
08-09-2010, 07:48 PM
I forgot to mention that it's also a Welcome Week activity for the freshman and their families and the Greeks will already be recruiting. It will be full.
gophergv
08-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Your luck with thinking that only 40% of the stadium will be filled might be put to shame. MTSU is actually expecting a sellout for this game. It will definitely be close to capacity.
If you read my original post it says you average 40% vacancy not 60%. There are plenty of tickets for sale. I don't think MTSU matches the 28k they had for Memphis last year.
MTPiKapp
08-09-2010, 11:29 PM
You're making some pretty baseless assumptions there fella. We may not top the 28,105 we had for Memphis last year, I'm confident we'll at least come close, but there's no way(barring a torrential downpour) that we have less than 25,000 for that game.
1) There is not a rivalry between us and Memphis, we've played them twice in the last three years and the last time we played them before that was in the 50's. They brought a pretty fair amount of fans, but no more than two or three thousand.
2) Our season opener is almost always our largest attendance for the year and this is by far the biggest season opener we've had any time recently.
3) National broadcasts are a rarity in Murfreesboro
4) The game falls on the fourth day of normal classes. The freshman will have been on campus for less than a week.
5) In regards to our attendance falling off at the end of the year, it happens every year because the residents of Murfreesboro are accustomed to us being bad and playing meaningless games at the end of the season, it's habit. I'm sure many of the people who stayed home last year weren't even aware of how good we were doing. We should see a boost in attendance from our strong finish last year, to start the season this year.
If you're expecting no more than 60% of capacity, you're going to be in for a big surprise come game time. Personally I think we'll top the mark set by the Memphis game last year, but if we fall short, it won't be by much.
highwayman
08-10-2010, 05:55 AM
I have never visited "worldstadiums.com". Figured I'd check it out when I saw where that picture came from. On my way to seeing what their coverage of TCF Bank Stadium looked like, I got sidetracked by the fact they list 5 Stadiums in Greenland. Check out the fancy 2,000 capacity Nuuk Stadium in Greenland:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/greenland/nuuk_football.jpg
FYI, I have been a worldstadiums.com geek for many years. They had no info on TCF Bank Stadium, even in the "Future Stadiums" section, throuigh mid-2009. I sent finally them the info for TCF Bank Stadium right before it opened last fall, and the editor gladly published.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/minnesota/minneapolis_tcf.shtml
The lesson: REMAIN VIGILANT, Gopher Fans!
GopherHomer
08-10-2010, 06:12 AM
This is a season opener for a team with very high expectations...I'm sure it will be packed. At least that homefield advantage due to the heat they supposedly practice in is nullified.
RodentRampage
08-10-2010, 07:24 AM
3) National broadcasts are a rarity in Murfreesboro
Then perhaps they might stay at home for the treat of watching the game on national TV? :)
the accomplice
08-10-2010, 08:12 AM
This stadium is going to be PACKED! Not only because it's a nationally televised game, but because Basil will be in the house. That's right, Basil will be there . . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw&feature=player_embedded
gophergv
08-10-2010, 08:37 AM
I didn't mean it as a slam to MTSU. I'm sure it will be a fun atmosphere. I was more trying to get at the intimidation factor. Minnesota is used to playing on the road at stadiums with 50-100k fans so 25k fans shouldn't have as much of an affect.
dance4raiders
08-10-2010, 09:51 AM
This stadium is going to be PACKED! Not only because it's a nationally televised game, but because Basil will be in the house. That's right, Basil will be there . . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw&feature=player_embedded
Are you serious?!?! If he really is there, my life will be complete. I know people think he's a joke and find it hilarious, but I feel sorry for the guy. Obviously something is wrong with him. I work with the mentally disabled and I believe he definitely is, but you can't help but love him! I will truly have a smile from ear to ear if I get to meet this guy! You just made my day!:clap:
dance4raiders
08-10-2010, 09:52 AM
I didn't mean it as a slam to MTSU. I'm sure it will be a fun atmosphere. I was more trying to get at the intimidation factor. Minnesota is used to playing on the road at stadiums with 50-100k fans so 25k fans shouldn't have as much of an affect.
I think we'll meet the 30K limit. It might only be 30K but I promise, we're a LOUD 30K.
Gold Vision
08-10-2010, 09:56 AM
I think we'll meet the 30K limit. It might only be 30K but I promise, we're a LOUD 30K.
Well, as long as you promise, we'll believe you.
Monty519
08-10-2010, 09:57 AM
I didn't mean it as a slam to MTSU. I'm sure it will be a fun atmosphere. I was more trying to get at the intimidation factor. Minnesota is used to playing on the road at stadiums with 50-100k fans so 25k fans shouldn't have as much of an affect.
Don't underestimate the intensity of a fired up, small crowd in those intimate settings, it can be a factor. But yeah, it doesn't compare to playing in Columbus, Ann Arbor, or Happy Valley, which the Gophers do on a yearly basis. It shouldn't be the determining factor IMO.
dance4raiders
08-10-2010, 10:01 AM
Don't underestimate the intensity of a fired up, small crowd in those intimate settings, it can be a factor. But yeah, it doesn't compare to playing in Columbus, Ann Arbor, or Happy Valley, which the Gophers do on a yearly basis. It shouldn't be the determining factor IMO.
It definitely won't be the determining factor, but you're also not just going to hear crickets during the game. The student section, which is VERY close to the visitors section :D, will be extremely loud. As far as the other side of the stadium, that contains all of the 1930's alumni, I mean you can't really expect too much noise from them.
MTPiKapp
08-10-2010, 12:40 PM
This is a season opener for a team with very high expectations...I'm sure it will be packed. At least that homefield advantage due to the heat they supposedly practice in is nullified.
How's that?
Ski U Mah Gopher
08-12-2010, 04:33 AM
How's that?
Obviously, you don't know what the weather has been like in Minneapolis.
Highs in the 90s almost every day since practice started. Brewster even commented how this will help us in the 1st game.
dance4raiders
08-12-2010, 06:00 AM
Obviously, you don't know what the weather has been like in Minneapolis.
Highs in the 90s almost every day since practice started. Brewster even commented how this will help us in the 1st game.
That's great that it's been in the 90's but you have to also remember that the South has a humidity like none other. It is a sticky, muggy humidity on top of the hot weather. I used to work for a hotel and in MAY, we had 2 men from New Mexico pass out and claim that they couldn't breathe due to our humidity. If Minnesota just has hot weather, it's way different than the hot weather the South experiences. It's 99 here today but the dew points are way up and it will probably feel more like 107. The actual heat wouldn't be different. The humidity, on the other hand, definitely would.
highwayman
08-12-2010, 06:26 AM
That's great that it's been in the 90's but you have to also remember that the South has a humidity like none other. It is a sticky, muggy humidity on top of the hot weather. I used to work for a hotel and in MAY, we had 2 men from New Mexico pass out and claim that they couldn't breathe due to our humidity. If Minnesota just has hot weather, it's way different than the hot weather the South experiences. It's 99 here today but the dew points are way up and it will probably feel more like 107. The actual heat wouldn't be different. The humidity, on the other hand, definitely would.
Uh...no. We were at mid 90's with dewpoints in the 70's and a heat index of 105-106. It is ignorant to think that humidity (dew point) levels are different depending on where you are. The heat+relative humidity factor is exactly the same. We have the same heat/humidity issues in Minnesota, but for shorter periods of the year due to our lattitude.
From Monday Tribune: "In the Twin Cities Sunday, dewpoints in the 70s, as high as any in the continental United States in the afternoon, produced a "feels like" factor of 102 degrees. That wasn't as high as the 106 registered on July 14, when the dewpoint of 78 was the highest in three years."
Not way different, same. Heat plus humidity is the same heat index no matter where you are.
Many people are ignorant of Minnesota weather. Yeah, we have a lot of snow and some days of real cold in the winter, but March-October is the same as a lot of the country...
New Mexicans are pussies.
harrys ghost
08-12-2010, 06:28 AM
That's great that it's been in the 90's but you have to also remember that the South has a humidity like none other. It is a sticky, muggy humidity on top of the hot weather. I used to work for a hotel and in MAY, we had 2 men from New Mexico pass out and claim that they couldn't breathe due to our humidity. If Minnesota just has hot weather, it's way different than the hot weather the South experiences. It's 99 here today but the dew points are way up and it will probably feel more like 107. The actual heat wouldn't be different. The humidity, on the other hand, definitely would.
New Mexico has very little humidity. We on the other hand have had dew points in the upper 70's the past week to go with the temps in the 90's which typically puts the heat index well over 100.
Rescooter
08-12-2010, 07:19 AM
Been to both states - the redneck factor is off the charts.
Tennessee comes no where close to Minnesota, but a better comparison is Iowa. I did my own redneck comparison between the two states - it's uncomfortably close
4-year public universities: TN 7 IA 3
Mobile Homes: TN 12.5% IA 7.5%
NASCAR Tracks: TN 2 IA 1
K-12 Public Schools test scores vs. National Average: TN below IA slightly above
Mullets (personal observation): Tie
Hot Women (with teeth): This one is not even close....Tennessee is a winner hands down
highwayman
08-12-2010, 07:43 AM
Been to both states - the redneck factor is off the charts.
Tennessee comes no where close to Minnesota, but a better comparison is Iowa. I did my own redneck comparison between the two states - it's uncomfortably close
4-year public universities: TN 7 IA 3
Mobile Homes: TN 12.5% IA 7.5%
NASCAR Tracks: TN 2 IA 1
K-12 Public Schools test scores vs. National Average: TN below IA slightly above
Mullets (personal observation): Tie
Hot Women (with teeth): This one is not even close....Tennessee is a winner hands down
Miss USA
Tennessee 2 2000 2007
Minnesota 1 1976
Iowa 1 1956
Miss America
Tennessee 2
Minnesota 3
Iowa 0
Rescooter
08-12-2010, 07:49 AM
Miss USA
Tennessee 2 2000 2007
Minnesota 1 1976
Iowa 1 1956
Miss America
Tennessee 2
Minnesota 3
Iowa 0
What were they thinking in 1956?
Thanks for the stats!
Monty519
08-12-2010, 07:50 AM
That's great that it's been in the 90's but you have to also remember that the South has a humidity like none other. It is a sticky, muggy humidity on top of the hot weather. I used to work for a hotel and in MAY, we had 2 men from New Mexico pass out and claim that they couldn't breathe due to our humidity. If Minnesota just has hot weather, it's way different than the hot weather the South experiences. It's 99 here today but the dew points are way up and it will probably feel more like 107. The actual heat wouldn't be different. The humidity, on the other hand, definitely would.
I was just in California a few weeks ago and it was 99, 100. Didn't feel a thing. Came back home that week, and it was 93, but the dew point was in the mid 70s, heat index about 102, 103 or so. Feels COMPLETELY different. That west coast heat is nothing like stuff east of the Rockies. Minnesota gets the humidity just like the south. As noted, we've had some heat indexes getting up near 110 in the past week. Is it quite the same as Tennessee? Probably not in sheer air temperature, but the humidity is pretty much the same. And also, the game is also being played at 7:30 in the evening, not 2:00. I doubt we'll see temps higher than 100 at that time of the evening/night. They just need to make sure they hydrate themselves well throughout the day and they'll be fine.
RodentRampage
08-12-2010, 08:26 AM
We have heat and humidity here, this has been a pretty humid summer in Minnesota. I think the MTSU fans are under the impression that we live in permafrost.
re3886
08-12-2010, 09:07 AM
We have heat and humidity here, this has been a pretty humid summer in Minnesota. I think the MTSU fans are under the impression that we live in permafrost.
They are convinced that we live above the Arctic Circle, and are in fact Canadian citizens.
LongOpherDo
08-12-2010, 09:34 AM
That's great that it's been in the 90's but you have to also remember that the South has a humidity like none other. It is a sticky, muggy humidity on top of the hot weather. I used to work for a hotel and in MAY, we had 2 men from New Mexico pass out and claim that they couldn't breathe due to our humidity. If Minnesota just has hot weather, it's way different than the hot weather the South experiences. It's 99 here today but the dew points are way up and it will probably feel more like 107. The actual heat wouldn't be different. The humidity, on the other hand, definitely would.
This is not true. The only difference is you have more hot/humid days and the sun intensity is stronger due to being closer to the equator. It gets just as humid here as anywhere in the south, but for not as many days.
MTPiKapp
08-12-2010, 09:34 AM
We've seen pictures of your indoor practice facility, you can't fool us.
http://www.emagine-travel.co.uk/blog/content/binary/igloo%20outside%20blog.jpg
LongOpherDo
08-12-2010, 09:44 AM
LOL. This must have been taken in June before the snow started melting.
MTPiKapp
08-12-2010, 09:57 AM
LOL. This must have been taken in June before the snow started melting.
Must be pretty frustrating to watch it melt in July and then have to rebuild it in September.
re3886
08-13-2010, 04:56 PM
Must be pretty frustrating to watch it melt in July and then have to rebuild it in September.
an entire state (excluding Ober Gatlinberg, of course) shutting down after .5" of snow.
I do enjoy this back and forth. Man, bring on Sept. 2nd!
gophmeister
08-13-2010, 05:13 PM
It's nice to know the MTSU fans are excited about this game. I really wish I could go. I would love the opportunity to combine camping in the Smokey Mountains with a gopher game.
MTPiKapp
08-14-2010, 12:49 PM
an entire state (excluding Ober Gatlinberg, of course) shutting down after .5" of snow.
I do enjoy this back and forth. Man, bring on Sept. 2nd!
I'm not exaggerating when I say this, if there is an inch of snow in the forecast there will be people lined up at the grocery stores buying bread and milk. I grew up in Georgia and went to school in Tennessee and it goes the same way in both states.
Ski U Master
08-14-2010, 01:25 PM
I'm not exaggerating when I say this, if there is an inch of snow in the forecast there will be people lined up at the grocery stores buying bread and milk. I grew up in Georgia and went to school in Tennessee and it goes the same way in both states.
lol That is pathetic.
GophersInIowa
08-14-2010, 01:43 PM
I'm not exaggerating when I say this, if there is an inch of snow in the forecast there will be people lined up at the grocery stores buying bread and milk. I grew up in Georgia and went to school in Tennessee and it goes the same way in both states.
It's like that all over the south. I found it entertaining when I live in NC. They would call off schools everywhere the night before even though the snow hadn't started yet.
Section2
08-14-2010, 03:14 PM
Sunset is 7:20, the game starts at 6:30, and the average high is 86 that day. That means it's likely to be low 80s at kickoff and will cool off throughout the game. If this were an 11am start, or a 2 pm start then yes, might be an issue. But it's unlikely to be an issue for a night game.
dance4raiders
08-14-2010, 04:40 PM
Sunset is 7:20, the game starts at 6:30, and the average high is 86 that day. That means it's likely to be low 80s at kickoff and will cool off throughout the game. If this were an 11am start, or a 2 pm start then yes, might be an issue. But it's unlikely to be an issue for a night game.
I can guarantee you that it will be hotter than 86 on Sept. 2 and even though the sun is down, you will still have humidity. Plus, that field is 10-15 degrees hotter than the air temperature. It will definitely be warm, especially while tailgating.
Section2
08-14-2010, 04:43 PM
I can guarantee you that it will be hotter than 86 on Sept. 2 and even though the sun is down, you will still have humidity. Plus, that field is 10-15 degrees hotter than the air temperature. It will definitely be warm, especially while tailgating.
While tailgating?? Huh. I hope most of our players are in the locker room and not tailgating then. How can you guarantee it will be hotter than 86 when that's the average? It's not like I picked 86 out of thin air. 10-15 degrees hotter on the field? At noon maybe but not at 6:30 unless you have heaters down there.
dance4raiders
08-14-2010, 05:05 PM
While tailgating?? Huh. I hope most of our players are in the locker room and not tailgating then. How can you guarantee it will be hotter than 86 when that's the average? It's not like I picked 86 out of thin air. 10-15 degrees hotter on the field? At noon maybe but not at 6:30 unless you have heaters down there.
Tailgating. Yes, we tailgate before games. So it will be hot. That's common sense... And 86 is the average, ok...but have you ever lived in Middle TN? Nothing is ever average here, especially lately. It's a hot summer and it will not be 86 on Sept. 2. And yes it will be 10-15 degrees hotter on the field...how I know... #1 danced on that field for 4 years. #2 our turf has ground up tires in it, therefore it is black and it is rubber. it absorbs heat. and at 6:30, that sun will not be down. Just saying. It may start cooling down around 8 or 9. Lived in TN my entire life, I think I would know.
Section2
08-14-2010, 05:17 PM
Tailgating. Yes, we tailgate before games. So it will be hot. That's common sense... And 86 is the average, ok...but have you ever lived in Middle TN? Nothing is ever average here, especially lately. It's a hot summer and it will not be 86 on Sept. 2. And yes it will be 10-15 degrees hotter on the field...how I know... #1 danced on that field for 4 years. #2 our turf has ground up tires in it, therefore it is black and it is rubber. it absorbs heat. and at 6:30, that sun will not be down. Just saying. It may start cooling down around 8 or 9. Lived in TN my entire life, I think I would know.
Ok, I guess averages don't apply in Tennessee. I stand corrected.
Regdab
08-14-2010, 08:50 PM
Isn't harping on a Sunbelt program for having empty seats a bit of "the pot calling the kettle black"?
I'm not sure when exactly it will be that gopher fans will be licensed to begin smack talking, but that time has certainly not yet arrived. Furthermore, it should be embarrassing to have to stoop down and direct it towards a mid-major school. (Although they are picked as favorites over a Big Ten team which is embarrassing in itself...)
Please try to be more responsible when representing our conference.
Unregistered User
08-14-2010, 10:55 PM
Isn't harping on a Sunbelt program for having empty seats a bit of "the pot calling the kettle black"?
I'm not sure when exactly it will be that gopher fans will be licensed to begin smack talking, but that time has certainly not yet arrived. Furthermore, it should be embarrassing to have to stoop down and direct it towards a mid-major school. (Although they are picked as favorites over a Big Ten team which is embarrassing in itself...)
Please try to be more responsible when representing our conference.
You are so adorable Regdab. For our Tennessee readers, Regdab [badger backwards...no coincidence] is an obsessive compulsive red weasel fan. I'm sure that you have noticed that there are a large number of "whiskey" and iowa pigs that post here. That happens when you trail your biggest rival in National Championships, B10 titles, and overall W/L records. Schadenfreude personified.
Please try to be more responsible when representing a fine University like the University of Wisconsin.
dance4raiders
08-15-2010, 09:58 AM
Ok, I guess averages don't apply in Tennessee. I stand corrected.
Just saying that it hasn't been an average year in Middle Tennessee. We had the "500 year flood" in May which wiped out Nashville. We've had the hottest summer in about 30-40 years this year, so I highly doubt it will be 86 on Sept. 2. No need to get an attitude and act like a "know it all" when you're not even from here and I'm guessing that you've probably never been to Tennessee.
monk10
08-15-2010, 10:30 AM
Ok, I guess averages don't apply in Tennessee. I stand corrected.
WIN.
Section2
08-15-2010, 10:38 AM
Just saying that it hasn't been an average year in Middle Tennessee. We had the "500 year flood" in May which wiped out Nashville. We've had the hottest summer in about 30-40 years this year, so I highly doubt it will be 86 on Sept. 2. No need to get an attitude and act like a "know it all" when you're not even from here and I'm guessing that you've probably never been to Tennessee.
Haven't been to Tennessee in 15 years since I went with my church to rebuild houses in the Appalachians. I wasn't being a know it all. I simply went to weather.com and pulled the average temps in the area and guessed that weather will be less of a factor than most are claiming. And I know a little something about the heat effect on artificial turf, but since I never danced on it I should probably shut my mouth.
diehard
08-15-2010, 10:50 AM
Weather will be a factor. Brew has been pushing the Gophers in the heat to make it less of a factor. We've played in Southern summer heat before, plus we have something we haven't ever had before. Depth.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 06:01 AM
Haven't been to Tennessee in 15 years since I went with my church to rebuild houses in the Appalachians. I wasn't being a know it all. I simply went to weather.com and pulled the average temps in the area and guessed that weather will be less of a factor than most are claiming. And I know a little something about the heat effect on artificial turf, but since I never danced on it I should probably shut my mouth.
Not being a "know it all", hmm...could've fooled me. Oh and by the way, Nashville is 2 days away from having a record of 32 days where it has been upper 90's. Just another weather factor that's NOT average this year. Just saying.... but what do I know? I only live there. I guess weather.com is the basis for everything. And while you're at it, look on there and see if weather.com also predicted that "500 year flood" for us too.
Section2
08-16-2010, 06:37 AM
Not being a "know it all", hmm...could've fooled me. Oh and by the way, Nashville is 2 days away from having a record of 32 days where it has been upper 90's. Just another weather factor that's NOT average this year. Just saying.... but what do I know? I only live there. I guess weather.com is the basis for everything. And while you're at it, look on there and see if weather.com also predicted that "500 year flood" for us too.
What you really need to do is to try to understand the concept of "average."
1. a quantity, rating, or the like that represents or approximates an arithmetic mean:
2. a typical amount, rate, degree, etc.; norm.
So you see, if I tell you the average is 86 degrees on a certain day. That doesn't mean it can't be in the 90s. But it also doesn't mean it can't be in the 70s. It means that when you add up all the temps over say the last 100 years on a specific date and divide by 100, the average temperature was 86. This isn't necessarily true, but you can think of it as if 1/2 of the temps were over 86 and 1/2 were below 86. So when you tell me that it's "always" above average temperature, then that means you aren't paying attention to the other half the time when it's "always" below the average. A flood is not an average occurrence. The fact that you've had a heat wave in July does not necessarily mean higher temperatures in September. It's the sun that heats up the ground up rubber on the field, and you can spray water on the turf to cool it off. 2/3 of this game will be played when the sun is down.
Gophs
08-16-2010, 06:40 AM
Not being a "know it all", hmm...could've fooled me. Oh and by the way, Nashville is 2 days away from having a record of 32 days where it has been upper 90's. Just another weather factor that's NOT average this year. Just saying.... but what do I know? I only live there. I guess weather.com is the basis for everything. And while you're at it, look on there and see if weather.com also predicted that "500 year flood" for us too.
Dude, you need to relax. Why so angry? Find your zen, man. No need to get worked up over the weather. As long as players are hydrated, the temp won't be a factor. And because the game is at night, the field won't be much hotter, because the sun won't be out.
Deep breathes, deep breathes.
Rescooter
08-16-2010, 06:52 AM
.... And while you're at it, look on there and see if weather.com also predicted that "500 year flood" for us too.
We're the Land of 10,000+ Lakes. We know how to swim, so the 500 year flood will not be a factor in this game.
-One other useless fact: In the middle of winter, we can drive our cars on those lakes out to the ice-house.
gopherguy05
08-16-2010, 07:25 AM
Dude, you need to relax. Why so angry? Find your zen, man. No need to get worked up over the weather. As long as players are hydrated, the temp won't be a factor. And because the game is at night, the field won't be much hotter, because the sun won't be out.
Deep breathes, deep breathes.
She's a chick....dude
Gophs
08-16-2010, 07:37 AM
She's a chick....dude
Well ... whatever.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 07:38 AM
She's a chick....dude
This made me laugh.
bigtenchamps1899
08-16-2010, 07:44 AM
Weather will be a factor. Brew has been pushing the Gophers in the heat to make it less of a factor. We've played in Southern summer heat before, plus we have something we haven't ever had before. Depth.
i agree with your first comment, weather will be a factor. i also agree that it shouldn't be a deciding factor, the strength and conditioning coaches are professionals who get paid to make sure our football players are ready to pay football in any conditions.
however, the last time we played in the 'southern heat' was FAU in 2007--they put up 42 on us. i believe brewster had the team inside with the heat jacked up.
before 2007 the last time the gophers played in the 'southern heat' was 2003 at louisina laffayette.
this team is a different team, as you pointed out, but if it is warm and humid it will be a departure from the norm of what the gopher are used to playing in.
while you are correct, this is not the same team as that 2007 team, we have depth (albeit untested depth), dwight dasher and MTSU is not the same offense as rusty smith and FAU.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 08:05 AM
i agree with your first comment, weather will be a factor. i also agree that it shouldn't be a deciding factor, the strength and conditioning coaches are professionals who get paid to make sure our football players are ready to pay football in any conditions.
however, the last time we played in the 'southern heat' was FAU in 2007--they put up 42 on us. i believe brewster had the team inside with the heat jacked up.
before 2007 the last time the gophers played in the 'southern heat' was 2003 at louisina laffayette.
this team is a different team, as you pointed out, but if it is warm and humid it will be a departure from the norm of what the gopher are used to playing in.
while you are correct, this is not the same team as that 2007 team, we have depth (albeit untested depth), dwight dasher and MTSU is not the same offense as rusty smith and FAU.
I agree. Our offense is completely different from FAU's. I also think one thing that will help our defense is our new coordinator. Yes, I miss Manny Diaz (loved that guy), but McCray was with Wisconsin for 4 years. He's had experience with Minnesota and I think, has given MTSU a "head's up" on what to expect. I also like that Beyah is back to WR. That's the perfect position for him. He proved that in 2008. Went to MTSU Fan Day yesterday and the guys seem pumped and ready for this game! I also loved the turnout yesterday for Fan Day. I can't wait to see if this first game is a sellout.
RodentRampage
08-16-2010, 08:06 AM
FAU did beat us in 2007, but it was because we dug ourselves too deep a hole to come back from. It wasn't us that faded in the second half, but FAU. We roared back in the second half, but it wasn't quite enough. The weather isn't going to be nearly such a major factor as the MTSU fans think.
dpodoll68
08-16-2010, 08:53 AM
I can guarantee you that it will be hotter than 86 on Sept. 2
What is your basis for this? The average daily high for Murfreesboro on Sept. 2 is 87 degrees (data from iMap). Some years the high was hotter than that. If you know how averages work, that means that some years the high was also cooler than that. There is no way you can "guarantee" that it will be hotter than 86 that day.
Ski U Master
08-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Wow this thread has turned into petty bickering over statistical analysis regarding temperatures? Thank God the offseason is only a couple more weeks long...
re3886
08-16-2010, 09:13 AM
Wow this thread has turned into petty bickering over statistical analysis regarding temperatures? Thank God the offseason is only a couple more weeks long...
it is helping pass the time. Who knows what Sept. 2nd will bring. For all anybody knows it could be raining.
Monty519
08-16-2010, 09:28 AM
FAU did beat us in 2007, but it was because we dug ourselves too deep a hole to come back from. It wasn't us that faded in the second half, but FAU. We roared back in the second half, but it wasn't quite enough. The weather isn't going to be nearly such a major factor as the MTSU fans think.
Yeah, weather is not why they lost to FAU, I think that was the, what, SEVEN turnovers the Gophers committed that day?
Also, looking ahead, I see in 10 days, they are forecasting a high of 92° on August 25th. I don't think it's farfetched at all to think that on Sept. 2nd we could see a high in the 80s somewhere. Either way, the Gophers have plenty of guys from states like Florida and Texas, they know what the deal is.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 09:55 AM
We'll just leave it at you guys thinking it will be 86. That's fine. Maybe the players will think that too. By the way, the only reason for the "cool down" to the low 90's this week is due to rain everyday in the forecast. But I guess Minnesota knows all about Tennessee weather. They must live with it every day or something. Geez. That's crazy. But I'll just say "OK. Minnesota is right." and leave it at that.
dpodoll68
08-16-2010, 10:01 AM
We'll just leave it at you guys thinking it will be 86. That's fine. Maybe the players will think that too. By the way, the only reason for the "cool down" to the low 90's this week is due to rain everyday in the forecast. But I guess Minnesota knows all about Tennessee weather. They must live with it every day or something. Geez. That's crazy. But I'll just say "OK. Minnesota is right." and leave it at that.
Seriously. What do you not understand about averages? I don't know anything about Tennessee weather from personal experience, but I know how to read, and also understand what the word "average" means.
And, further, this is all academic anyway. Given that the game starts at 7:30, the high that day is irrelevant. What matters is what the temperature is from 7:30 to 11 or so is what is relevant. And, given that the record high for that day in Murfreesboro is 99, the odds are astronomical that the temperature even approaches 86 during the game.
Also, please enlighten us as to what the high temperature in the middle of August has to do with the high on Sept. 2. Thanks in advance.
monk10
08-16-2010, 10:45 AM
I think what she is trying to say is cold fronts don't like to pass through TN, just like the rest of society.
RodentRampage
08-16-2010, 10:45 AM
We'll just leave it at you guys thinking it will be 86. That's fine. Maybe the players will think that too. By the way, the only reason for the "cool down" to the low 90's this week is due to rain everyday in the forecast. But I guess Minnesota knows all about Tennessee weather. They must live with it every day or something. Geez. That's crazy. But I'll just say "OK. Minnesota is right." and leave it at that.
I can guarantee you one thing. You have not lived with the weather of September 2nd, 2010, as it hasn't happened yet. Why should it matter that cooling was due to rain? Can't it rain in September?
Iceland12
08-16-2010, 11:06 AM
We've already had over 16 days over 90 degrees and most of them had dewpoints in the high 60's and low 70's. This is NOT the year to expect anybody up here to be terrified of the temperture's they may find in TN the night of September 2nd.
Now if we had just experienced 16 days of -20 weather then yes, we'd all be concerned. :)
This might be something for MTSU fans to be more concerned about then the weather.
http://www.dnj.com/article/20100815/BLUERAIDERS01/8150324/MTSU-O-line-broken-by-circumstances
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 11:28 AM
We've already had over 16 days over 90 degrees and most of them had dewpoints in the high 60's and low 70's. This is NOT the year to expect anybody up here to be terrified of the temperture's they may find in TN the night of September 2nd.
Now if we had just experienced 16 days of -20 weather then yes, we'd all be concerned. :)
This might be something for MTSU fans to be more concerned about then the weather.
http://www.dnj.com/article/20100815/BLUERAIDERS01/8150324/MTSU-O-line-broken-by-circumstances
That article has been talked about a lot lately in middle TN. To be honest, I'm not worried about it. We still have over 2 weeks. Like I said in an earlier post, Minnesota may be a little concerned at the fact that MTSU now has a defensive coordinator from Wisconsin. He was there 4 years, has played Minnesota, somewhat knows what to expect, and is preparing our guys.
jjgopher
08-16-2010, 11:31 AM
Hey dance4raiders, you were a dancer at MTSU for 4 year? Pics please! Thanks in advance.
Iceland12
08-16-2010, 11:48 AM
That article has been talked about a lot lately in middle TN. To be honest, I'm not worried about it. We still have over 2 weeks. Like I said in an earlier post, Minnesota may be a little concerned at the fact that MTSU now has a defensive coordinator from Wisconsin. He was there 4 years, has played Minnesota, somewhat knows what to expect, and is preparing our guys.
Is that John Palermo the D-Line Coach? He was here under that weasel Holtz and was at Wisconsin for quite a few years. That could help, though the Gophers under Brewster have changed their offense three times in the last three years.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 11:51 AM
I'm not posting pics. Keep dreaming.
I altogether think this is going to be an interesting match-up. Even though it's not that big of a deal, I do think that new defensive coordinator is plus. Especially if he's watched the Gophers play. Also, Minnesota has size, but I know they lack some in speed. MTSU is the total opposite. We lack in size, but we have speed. We're also known to throw a few trick plays, so I'm looking forward to that. I'm just anxious to see how the size vs. speed issue pans out for both teams.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 11:52 AM
Is that John Palermo the D-Line Coach? He was here under that weasel Holtz and was at Wisconsin for quite a few years. That could help, though the Gophers under Brewster have changed their offense three times in the last three years.
No it's Randall McCray. He spent the last 4 years at Wisconsin as an assistant coach.
jjgopher
08-16-2010, 11:54 AM
then i'm sure you were a dancer there for 4 years
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 12:08 PM
then i'm sure you were a dancer there for 4 years
Dude, if it weren't 2 years ago and I was still on the website then I would tell you to go look it up. It's on my Facebook, but there's no way I'm posting that on here. Too personal. Sorry I don't want any weird stalkers searching through my pics. Guess I'm crazy for that. And funny how I still know every girl on the team and I judge tryouts every year. Oh and I know the last 3 coaches we've had. I've been to Daytona to place 5th at Nationals 2 years in a row and I've traveled to numerous stadiums to perform with the team, including Alabama, Memphis, South Carolina, Western Kentucky, Ford Field in Detroit, and LP Field in Nashville. I've also danced at 2 Titan's games at halftime, when MTSU performed. Guess I would just make ALL of that up too. BTW, who in their right mind would lie about dancing for MTSU?!? Sorry, but that's not something you just pull out of your butt to post on a forum.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 12:21 PM
then i'm sure you were a dancer there for 4 years
Believe what you want though. I know what I did for 4 years and don't have time for petty, immature, middle school drama.
jjgopher
08-16-2010, 12:33 PM
oh i believe you. i just wanted to see pics that is all. I'm sure you're hot. Hot ex-college dancers getting into arguments on the Gopherhole don't happen every day, so I thought I'd give it a shot.
Unregistered User
08-16-2010, 12:37 PM
...but there's no way I'm posting that on here. Too personal. Sorry I don't want any weird stalkers searching through my pics.
Creepy factor is creeping up, JJ.
re3886
08-16-2010, 01:07 PM
oh i believe you. i just wanted to see pics that is all. I'm sure you're hot. Hot ex-college dancers getting into arguments on the Gopherhole don't happen every day, so I thought I'd give it a shot.
Give it a rest. She is who she is, and none of that matters. She's got it in her head that Physics and Hydrodynamics don't work in her part of Tennessee. I lived nine years in the south deeper than Tennessee and have seen that they do. I think we should just let this silly argument drop and work on enjoying Sept 2nd.
RodentRampage
08-16-2010, 01:12 PM
So, we should believe that you can know the weather in advance, and we should accept that there is no possible way we could prepare for it, and if that isn't enough, we should accept that injuries and lack of time practicing with each other mean nothing?
RaiderATO
08-16-2010, 03:09 PM
I would love the opportunity to combine camping in the Smokey Mountains with a gopher game.
It's a 3.5 hr drive from Gatlinburg to Murfreesboro, but I guess if you drove down from MN, you might as well do it.
gophergv
08-16-2010, 03:53 PM
Based on where this thread has gone I suggest a guess the temperature at kickoff contest. The winner gets to have dinner with dance4raiders followed by a a visit to the Tennessee state weather museum. I will guess 77.
DLguy
08-16-2010, 05:04 PM
It's a 3.5 hr drive from Gatlinburg to Murfreesboro, but I guess if you drove down from MN, you might as well do it.
Its a good thing I listen to Jason Aldeen, or I would have no idea what Gatlinburg was.
Dance girl, you must be pretty familiar with our dance team. I believe they win nationals every other year.
dance4raiders
08-16-2010, 06:53 PM
Its a good thing I listen to Jason Aldeen, or I would have no idea what Gatlinburg was.
Dance girl, you must be pretty familiar with our dance team. I believe they win nationals every other year.
I'm very familiar with Minnesota dance. It's always a toss-up between them and Tennessee. Minnesota is an amazing dance team. Great technique, etc. but I lean towards Tennessee being my favorite. Not because I'm from there, I just like their style more and they seem to be more unique when it comes to movements and music choices. My favorite dance ever performed by a team is from University of Tennessee in 2009. Minnesota was a close 2nd that year though.
And to the post about me having dinner with someone...umm...nope. I'm getting married. Sorry.
betterdeadthanred
08-16-2010, 07:54 PM
2008? dance team (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mEUBAS09tlo/SA6nbGEm5oI/AAAAAAAAAX4/WOcYrGtB42U/s320/MTSU.gif&imgrefurl=http://collegedanceteam.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html&usg=__Xe27H3Opj37MzEbvZOiRT52oYCs=&h=222&w=284&sz=131&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=qSNalnEIu_k4RM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2007%2Bmtsu%2Bdance%2Bteam%26um%3D1%2 6hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih% 3D683%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1)
try that one
From Intellicast.com
For Mufreesboro, TN
Sep 2
Average Low 62°
Average High 86°
Record Low 45° (1987)
Record High 99° (1953)
Now, are we guessing the high temp for the day, or the temp at kickoff?
I'm going to guess 84 at kickoff, with a high of 88. Since it NEVER gets above 80 in Minnesota I think our players will curl up in the fetal position and give up. Plus, it's not like half our team is from Florida.
of course it could rain that day and then the high might only be 70.
Linky no worky. At least for me.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 05:46 AM
2008? dance team (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mEUBAS09tlo/SA6nbGEm5oI/AAAAAAAAAX4/WOcYrGtB42U/s320/MTSU.gif&imgrefurl=http://collegedanceteam.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html&usg=__Xe27H3Opj37MzEbvZOiRT52oYCs=&h=222&w=284&sz=131&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=qSNalnEIu_k4RM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2007%2Bmtsu%2Bdance%2Bteam%26um%3D1%2 6hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih% 3D683%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1)
try that one
Cool? And thanks for stalking me or trying to research me. That's a little weird. But yes, I'm in that picture.
Section2
08-17-2010, 06:49 AM
From Intellicast.com
For Mufreesboro, TN
Sep 2
Average Low 62°
Average High 86°
Record Low 45° (1987)
Record High 99° (1953)
Now, are we guessing the high temp for the day, or the temp at kickoff?
I'm going to guess 84 at kickoff, with a high of 88. Since it NEVER gets above 80 in Minnesota I think our players will curl up in the fetal position and give up. Plus, it's not like half our team is from Florida.
of course it could rain that day and then the high might only be 70.
You idiot! Haven't you even read this thread? Someone from Tennessee guarantees it will be hotter than 86 at kickoff. Do you currently live in Tennessee? I didn't think so. If you did, you would know that it's ALWAYS hotter than what the averages are. I will guess 103, with the temps on the field somewhere in the 145 to 155 range due to the artificial turf effect.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 07:12 AM
Just FYI, since I'm apparently wrong about TN weather, I decided to do a little research on the month of August so far. The average for Nashville on weather.com in August is 88. The average in August, this year, so far is 95.1. Just saying...That's a 7.1 degree difference. So 86 on Sept. 2...umm... I'm gonna go with at least 92. Don't believe me, research it yourselves.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 07:14 AM
By the way, I'm done talking about weather. I just thought I would throw out those few little "facts" about August so maybe you guys won't think it's 88 here everyday since weather.com says so.
Section2
08-17-2010, 08:06 AM
^^^ Still doesn't understand averages
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 08:17 AM
^^^Still doesn't understand that I DO understand averages. (Hence why I listed the average for August) Also, doesn't understand the concept of humidity. But we'll leave it at that.
BTW, I found some good posts about MTSU that I listed if you guys wanna read. They don't pick winners, but they do list some characteristics you can expect to see on Sept. 2. I thought they were interesting.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2010/08/2010-sun-belt-conference-preview.html
http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=204975622
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 08:29 AM
(Hence why I listed the average for August) Also, doesn't understand the concept of humidity. But we'll leave it at that.
^^^doesn't understand that posting a month-to-date average for August has absolutely zero to do with September 2
^^^doesn't understand that weekly/monthly/annual averages have an infinitesimal correlation with the average for any given day
^^^doesn't understand that temperature and humidity are completely independent of each other
MPLSJACKRABBIT
08-17-2010, 08:37 AM
I'm pretty sure dance4raiders understands averages. Those average temperatures you are looking at include all average highs since they started recording them (probably the past 100 years or so). The 10 warmest years on record in the US all came in the past 12 years, so a more accurate average would be taking the past 10 or 15 years highs. I'm pretty sure that would be higher than 86. Not that a few degrees will matter come gametime.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 08:57 AM
I thought you were done talking about the weather.
By the way, I'm done talking about weather. I just thought I would throw out those few little "facts" about August so maybe you guys won't think it's 88 here everyday since weather.com says so.
We're just having some fun with your stubbornness. We get it, you're trying to say it's going to be really hot and humid for a Sept. 2nd game. What we're trying to say is that our players are used to it, being that pretty much all of our roster is from MN, WI, FL, and TX (all places that get hot and humid). And yes, we realize that TN stays hot and humid for longer than MN.
Take, July 14th of this year for example (see attached images).
Regardless of the weather I think it will be a pretty evenly matched game and I don't think the Gophers are underestimating MTSU at all.
betterdeadthanred
08-17-2010, 09:11 AM
Cool? And thanks for stalking me or trying to research me. That's a little weird. But yes, I'm in that picture.
yeah, spending 10 seconds googling it is pretty tough...
Rescooter
08-17-2010, 09:15 AM
....
BTW, I found some good posts about MTSU that I listed if you guys wanna read. They don't pick winners, but they do list some characteristics you can expect to see on Sept. 2. I thought they were interesting.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2010/08/2010-sun-belt-conference-preview.html
http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=204975622
I pulled up the Orlando Sentinal article; they had credibility until they said this about Dasher, "If Dwight Dasher was playing in a BCS conference, we would be talking about him as a Heisman Trophy candidate."
Come on.... If Dwight Dasher were playing in a real conference, he wouldn't even be starting. Did you see what Clemson did to him? You cannot tell me he would be an upper tier Big Ten quarterback, much less a Heisman Trophy candidate.
monk10
08-17-2010, 09:20 AM
We're just having some fun with your stubbornness.
And your tendency to get really defensive really quick. I kind of suck at that let's all be friends and live like large purple dinosaurs.
TBH: Please keep replying. I get to send you posts back to my family in TN, and needle them some :D.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 09:24 AM
I pulled up the Orlando Sentinal article; they had credibility until they said this about Dasher, "If Dwight Dasher was playing in a BCS conference, we would be talking about him as a Heisman Trophy candidate."
Come on.... If Dwight Dasher were playing in a real conference, he wouldn't even be starting. Did you see what Clemson did to him? You cannot tell me he would be an upper tier Big Ten quarterback, much less a Heisman Trophy candidate.
To be fair, he was named to the Walter Camp watch list. He is the biggest concern for this game. Period. Paragraph.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 09:24 AM
I pulled up the Orlando Sentinal article; they had credibility until they said this about Dasher, "If Dwight Dasher was playing in a BCS conference, we would be talking about him as a Heisman Trophy candidate."
Come on.... If Dwight Dasher were playing in a real conference, he wouldn't even be starting. Did you see what Clemson did to him? You cannot tell me he would be an upper tier Big Ten quarterback, much less a Heisman Trophy candidate.
Dasher has the most rushing yards by a QB in a bowl game... ever. Wanna rethink that? The guy is unstoppable. Clemson ran over him, yes... but that was his first game as a starting QB. When he set that record for the rushing yards in a bowl game in Dec. he was injured...twice. He literally wouldn't back down. The guy has talent. I was reading today that one of our freshman may replace D.D. Kyles as running back. His name is Whatley and he's being compared to Desmond Gee, who was an amazing player for MT. Whatley has also reportedly ran a 4.31, 40 yard dash. Pretty impressive for a freshman.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 09:29 AM
Whatley has also reportedly ran a 4.31, 40 yard dash. Pretty impressive for a freshman.
My buddy ran a 4.3 and played WR for East Carolina. Ever heard of him? No...probably not. You need more than speed.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 09:31 AM
Most ever rushing yards by a QB in a bowl game... against the team Sagarin rates as #77 in the nation.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 09:43 AM
I've never seen people get so bent out of shape about weather. It appears that MTSU fans are basing most of their hopes on the Gophers being unable to cope with the weather that they get irate when anyone calls them on this. You haven't just made a point about the weather, you've attacked their hopes and dreams.
While MTSU is busy patting themselves on the back, we'll be busy playing football.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 10:04 AM
We're not basing anything on weather. I just hope the Minnesota players are hydrated since apparently it will cool by it being a night game. Hate to see anyone get hurt. I also think Minnesota is underrating MTSU. Which is fine. Southern Miss and Maryland did the same thing. And who cares if Dasher played #77 Southern Miss to get most rushing yards in a bowl game?!? He still got the record... By the way, as far as rankings go right now. MTSU is #58. Minnesota is #67. And Southern Miss, they're #66...ouch. Here's stats below on Southern Miss too.
43rd for Passing
33rd for Rushing
18th for Points For
62nd for Points Against
Compared to Minny:
76th for Passing
111th for Rushing
100th for Points For
51st for Points Against
Looks like Dasher set that record with a team that seems to be a little better than Minnesota.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 10:06 AM
My buddy ran a 4.3 and played WR for East Carolina. Ever heard of him? No...probably not. You need more than speed.
And Minnesota will need more than beef. I don't think Minnesota matches up in speed with MTSU and I don't think MTSU matches up in beef with Minnesota.
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 10:17 AM
I don't think Minnesota matches up in speed with MTSU
Wow. Just when I think this thread is dying down, you keep making it entertaining.
I know you don't know who the Common Man is (local radio personality), but I would like to nominate you for his "preposterous statement of the year" award.
If this were a track meet, Minnesota would absolutely destroy MTSU. Not only is MTSU smaller, they are also not as fast (certain athletes excepted.) Luckily for MTSU, this will be a football game, and they can win based on execution, cohesiveness, experience, etc. They will not win based on superior strength, size, athleticism, speed, quickness, etc., because they have none of those things.
c'monman
08-17-2010, 10:25 AM
Wow. Just when I think this thread is dying down, you keep making it entertaining.
I know you don't know who the Common Man is (local radio personality), but I would like to nominate you for his "preposterous statement of the year" award.
If this were a track meet, Minnesota would absolutely destroy MTSU. Not only is MTSU smaller, they are also not as fast (certain athletes excepted.) Luckily for MTSU, this will be a football game, and they can win based on execution, cohesiveness, experience, etc. They will not win based on superior strength, size, athleticism, speed, quickness, etc., because they have none of those things.
exactly....this is why they were recruited by brew to play big ten football. Like you said though, cohesiveness, experience, and execution all play a big role in the outcome of the game.
Monty519
08-17-2010, 10:33 AM
Wow. Just when I think this thread is dying down, you keep making it entertaining.
I know you don't know who the Common Man is (local radio personality), but I would like to nominate you for his "preposterous statement of the year" award.
If this were a track meet, Minnesota would absolutely destroy MTSU. Not only is MTSU smaller, they are also not as fast (certain athletes excepted.) Luckily for MTSU, this will be a football game, and they can win based on execution, cohesiveness, experience, etc. They will not win based on superior strength, size, athleticism, speed, quickness, etc., because they have none of those things.
Pretty much this. If this were 2007, I'd agree with you 100% about not matching up with speed. Being that this is 2010, and Brewster has recruited, if nothing else, speed and athleticism, I completely disagree. If they execute reasonably well (and that's a kind of big "if" offensively) MTSU won't be able to hang around. If the offense executes like it did last season, then this game will at minimum be close, and an MTSU victory wouldn't surprise me in the least. But it won't be the speed that does it IMO.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 10:46 AM
We're not underestimating MTSU, it's the other way around. And a good number of MTSU fans are in fact banking on the heat and humidity being impossible for Minnesota to cope with - for a time, there was daily weather comparisons between MTSU and Minnesota on the Blue Raiders board.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 11:21 AM
We're not underestimating MTSU, it's the other way around. And a good number of MTSU fans are in fact banking on the heat and humidity being impossible for Minnesota to cope with - for a time, there was daily weather comparisons between MTSU and Minnesota on the Blue Raiders board.
We're not banking on the heat. Will it be a small factor? Yes, I think it will. Your Gophers are on the road for their first game, in a new and unknown place, and having to deal with different heat and humidity. Will it be the main factor to determine the game? No. And MTSU is definitely not underestimating the Gophers. Kind of hard to underestimate a Big 10 team when you're in the SunBelt. Now if you were in the C-USA, then yes, we would definitely underestimate you. Stockstill never underestimates any team. Look at the New Orleans Bowl. He treated that like it was the National Championship game. Does MTSU think we have a good chance of winning? Yes, because we're favored to win and we've noticed that Weber tends to have a rough time against blitz oriented defenses with good secondaries. It won't be the end of the world for MTSU if we lose though. We can still make it another 10 win season after you. I just think some Gopher fans look at MTSU as being a "small" school that you should trample over and not taking the first game seriously. Like many other posts mention, this game is a big deal. It will set the bar for expectations from both teams.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 11:31 AM
Perhaps you personally aren't banking on the heat, but there are in fact a lot of MTSU fans who are in fact banking on it, I've seen their posts. I can assure you, we're taking this game very seriously.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 11:36 AM
Wow. Just when I think this thread is dying down, you keep making it entertaining.
I know you don't know who the Common Man is (local radio personality), but I would like to nominate you for his "preposterous statement of the year" award.
If this were a track meet, Minnesota would absolutely destroy MTSU. Not only is MTSU smaller, they are also not as fast (certain athletes excepted.) Luckily for MTSU, this will be a football game, and they can win based on execution, cohesiveness, experience, etc. They will not win based on superior strength, size, athleticism, speed, quickness, etc., because they have none of those things.
"They will not win based on superior strength, size, athleticism, speed, quickness, etc., because they have none of those things."- Wow. All you can do all this board is bash me and then you screw up. MTSU does not have speed, quickness, or athleticism?!? HAHAHA. Hold on. Give me a sec to laugh at your ridiculous comment before I can finish typing............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........................................
OK.... check the stats on our rushing sweetheart. You don't get 26th in the nation in rushing by being slow. But I guess Minnesota is fast with that 111th ranking in rushing yards last year. And as far as athleticism goes, check out Dasher, who has been the main talk of this game. Minnesota apparently thinks he's the ONLY threat, but I hate to tell you that he's not. While you're at it, check out Whatley (my freshman who ran a 4.31 in the 40 yd dash), D.D. Kyles, Jamari Lattimore, Mark Fisher, and Phillip Tanner.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 11:37 AM
Perhaps you personally aren't banking on the heat, but there are in fact a lot of MTSU fans who are in fact banking on it, I've seen their posts. I can assure you, we're taking this game very seriously.
I just don't see how Minnesota could be taking this game seriously when you think MTSU's only threat is Dasher. Is he the only player you guys are preparing for?
Gold Vision
08-17-2010, 11:41 AM
I just don't see how Minnesota could be taking this game seriously when you think MTSU's only threat is Dasher. Is he the only player you guys are preparing for?
Will you go away if we admit we aren't taking MTSU seriously? Secretly the coaches have moved on to the USC game as they feel they have Dasher under control.
What are you even basing that on? A few nimrods on this board?
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 11:43 AM
If the Gophers played the same schedule that MTSU did, our rushing game would look pretty good too. We'd never crow about beating the #97 and #77 teams. Those are games that are embarrassing if we don't win them. Our weakest opponent was #101 South Dakota State. It was embarrassing that we only beat them 16-13. SDSU would be the third best team in the Sun Belt. So, please, talk all you want about running all over us. We've faced some potent offenses before.
We are taking this game seriously. I don't see the same from MTSU fans. There are posts from MTSU fans talking looking ahead to not just beating Minnesota, but running the score up on Minnesota. I see posters sneering at the SEC.
Breakin' The Plane
08-17-2010, 11:43 AM
I will ask Coach Brewster when I speak to him, but I am relatively certain he is preparing the team for an 11 against 1 scenario.
Schnauzer
08-17-2010, 11:43 AM
We're not banking on the heat. Will it be a small factor? Yes, I think it will. Your Gophers are on the road for their first game, in a new and unknown place, and having to deal with different heat and humidity. Will it be the main factor to determine the game? No. And MTSU is definitely not underestimating the Gophers. Kind of hard to underestimate a Big 10 team when you're in the SunBelt. Now if you were in the C-USA, then yes, we would definitely underestimate you. Stockstill never underestimates any team. Look at the New Orleans Bowl. He treated that like it was the National Championship game. Does MTSU think we have a good chance of winning? Yes, because we're favored to win and we've noticed that Weber tends to have a rough time against blitz oriented defenses with good secondaries. It won't be the end of the world for MTSU if we lose though. We can still make it another 10 win season after you. I just think some Gopher fans look at MTSU as being a "small" school that you should trample over and not taking the first game seriously. Like many other posts mention, this game is a big deal. It will set the bar for expectations from both teams.
A couple points:
- I would guess that Stockstill treated the New Orleans Bowl like the National Championship because that is as close as a Sun Belt team can get to the NC game.
- you think some Gopher fans look at MTSu as being a "small" school that the Gophers should trample over and not taking the first game seriously. Let me clarify. ALL Gopher fans should look at MTSU as being a small school that the Gophers should trample over. But, the Gopher football programs is not at the point where we'd like it to be. Any knowledgeable Gopher fan is taking the game seriously. Due to the state of the Gopher program right now, when aligned with an MTSU squad that is at the high water mark in terms of their own potential: defeat is a very real possibility, and that is of course a concern. As Gopher fans, we'd like to see our team in a position where we don't have to sweat the outcome of game against a top tier team from the Sunbelt. Unfortunately, the Gopher program is not in that place today. I think you are mixing up a couple things and incorrectly arriving at the conclusion that Gopher fans (and perhaps the team) are somehow overlooking a team that is favored to beat them.
Sisyphus
08-17-2010, 11:44 AM
I just don't see how Minnesota could be taking this game seriously when you think MTSU's only threat is Dasher. Is he the only player you guys are preparing for?
He's the only one I'm preparing for. My day job and wife keep me from investing time to game plan for the rest of the team.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 11:44 AM
I just don't see how Minnesota could be taking this game seriously when you think MTSU's only threat is Dasher. Is he the only player you guys are preparing for?
You see what you want to see.
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 11:47 AM
then you screw up
No.
MTSU does not have speed, quickness, or athleticism?!?
I did not say that. Did you note the use of the word superior before that phrase? I guess not. Or do they not teach adjectives at MTSU?
OK.... check the stats on our rushing sweetheart. You don't get 26th in the nation in rushing by being slow. But I guess Minnesota is fast with that 111th ranking in rushing yards last year.
It's a good thing that amount of rushing yards directly correlates to speed, quickness, athleticism. Oh, that's right, it doesn't. Note my previous post wherein I referenced, among other things, execution. Minnesota did not execute last year, especially on offense. Not to mention the fact that this year's defense is far more athletic than last year's. But I'm sure you knew that already.
Put MTSU's players in a combine setting vs. Minnesota's, and it's not even a contest. Seriously. You need to get off this tangent, because you are wrong.
check out Whatley (my freshman who ran a 4.31 in the 40 yd dash)
Speed does not make someone a good football player. One could literally write a book (or several) on amazing athletes who sucked at baseball, basketball, football, and so on. A former Vikings player and coach I heard on the radio yesterday summed it up well (paraphrased): "I know a lot of guys who are big enough, strong enough, fast enough to be professional football players. What separates pros from them is all between the ears." In other words, read, recognize, and execute. If you can't do those things, it doesn't matter how fast you are.
You're welcome for the free lesson on athleticism vs. the actual ability to play football. MTSU probably even has the advantage on the latter, so I don't understand why you're trying to argue for the former. It's absurd to even suggest such a thing.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 11:55 AM
A couple points:
- I would guess that Stockstill treated the New Orleans Bowl like the National Championship because that is as close as a Sun Belt team can get to the NC game.
- you think some Gopher fans look at MTSu as being a "small" school that the Gophers should trample over and not taking the first game seriously. Let me clarify. ALL Gopher fans should look at MTSU as being a small school that the Gophers should trample over. But, the Gopher football programs is not at the point where we'd like it to be. Any knowledgeable Gopher fan is taking the game seriously. Due to the state of the Gopher program right now, when aligned with an MTSU squad that is at the high water mark in terms of their own potential: defeat is a very real possibility, and that is of course a concern. As Gopher fans, we'd like to see our team in a position where we don't have to sweat the outcome of game against a top tier team from the Sunbelt. Unfortunately, the Gopher program is not in that place today. I think you are mixing up a couple things and incorrectly arriving at the conclusion that Gopher fans (and perhaps the team) are somehow overlooking a team that is favored to beat them.
"- I would guess that Stockstill treated the New Orleans Bowl like the National Championship because that is as close as a Sun Belt team can get to the NC game."
Wrong. SunBelt is now open to 3 or 4 bowls. GMAC invited Troy last year where they played Central Michigan.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 12:05 PM
I just think it's sad that other Gopher fans think this website is a joke and that the people on here are drinking WAY too much kool-aid. I'm starting to agree with them.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 12:06 PM
Oh, get over yourself.
Schnauzer
08-17-2010, 12:06 PM
My mistake. The GMAC Bowl is much closer to the National Championship compared to the New Orleans Bowl.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 12:14 PM
And no offense, but from things I've read, the rest of the Big 10 thinks Minnesota is a joke. I'd rather be top-tier in a sub-par conference, than terrible (or dead last) in a decent conference.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 12:16 PM
Plus, you guys lost to Iowa State. Really???
Gopher024
08-17-2010, 12:18 PM
And no offense, but from things I've read, the rest of the Big 10 thinks Minnesota is a joke. I'd rather be top-tier in a sub-par conference, than terrible (or dead last) in a decent conference.
Your ignorance about football has been exposed. Is that why you have a tough time defending all the stats you love to throw around?
monk10
08-17-2010, 12:24 PM
Please don't let this thread die. Dpod, you need to be nice, she might stop posting.
PlayHosea
08-17-2010, 12:33 PM
Plus, you guys lost to Iowa State. Really???
Holding a fanbase accountable for a loss is the equivalent of holding you accountable for the Civil War. Union 1. Confederacy 0.
Rescooter
08-17-2010, 12:35 PM
And no offense, but from things I've read, the rest of the Big 10 thinks Minnesota is a joke.
We've all heard about the "Metrodome Bathroom Incident", but Iowa just keeps on giving. Here's something we can all laugh at:
http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2010/08/in-heaven-there-is-no-beer.html
Tee09
08-17-2010, 12:37 PM
Nebraska lost to Iowa State too.
MTSU lost to Troy.
Monty519
08-17-2010, 12:38 PM
LOL @ we're not taking MTSU seriously. Who cares what the fans are doing??? All I know is Brewster has had this game circled since it was announced cause HE knows the importance, and that's all that really matters. I'm pretty sure he's showing more tape than just Dasher as well. This is the same dude that compared FAU to Ohio State as a team, and that FAU team had nothing on MTSU. He's probably in the locker room telling these guys MTSU is very similar to Oregon or some other top BCS squad, and that Dasher is better than Terrelle Pryor and stuff like that. That's how Brewster is, if nothing else, he'll have that team ready to compete. That's why they got banners all over the place pronouncing "1-0", because that is the ONLY goal they have right now. The players will be ready, don't worry about that. Fans may disrespect MTSU, but there is ZERO chance Brewster is doing the same. Not only that, everyone and their grandma keeps telling these guys they suck, so motivation shouldn't be an issue against ANY squad.
That said, this is still MTSU, a Sun Belt squad. It should be an expectation that we win this game convincingly, even if all signs point to at minimum, a very competitive game. As a Big Ten conference program, we should expect dominant wins here, considering the advantages we're supposed to have. That's just how it is. This game may not turn out that way, but we should be expecting our program to get to that point.
Tee09
08-17-2010, 12:45 PM
This game may not turn out that way, but we should be expecting our program to get to that point.
Exactly. It's a sad commentary on where we're at right now that we have to worry about this game. In a perfect world, this is a game where the Gophers shouldn't even have to throw the ball. As it stands, I'm cautiously optimistic about our odds.
The team should have their heads on straight from the coaches but also from all the snubs in the preseason rags. These guys have some pride, and the notion that MTSU would be favored to beat them should make them sick/motivated to stomp somebody by 30.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 12:46 PM
Nebraska lost to Iowa State too.
MTSU lost to Troy.
Troy=#62
MTSU=#58
Minnesota=#67
Iowa State=#70
Troy has dominated the SunBelt the last few years. Look them up. That's like saying Minnesota lost to Ohio State...oh wait...
Tee09
08-17-2010, 12:49 PM
It takes some doing to be the worst directional school in TN, but comparing Troy to Ohio State is putting you guys up with the geniuses over at ETSU.
Edit: Checked the Sagarin ratings at the end of last season:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm
Dance4raiders can't even read right.
MTSU 63
Gophs 64
ISU 66
Troy 69
tOSU 6
Gold Vision
08-17-2010, 12:49 PM
Troy=#62
MTSU=#58
Minnesota=#67
Iowa State=#70
Troy has dominated the SunBelt the last few years. Look them up. That's like saying Minnesota lost to Ohio State...oh wait...
:clap:
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 01:03 PM
Yes, we lost to #66 Iowa State. You can't smack us for losing to the #66 team, and then crow about beating the #77 team. If beating #77 is such an epic accomplishment, surely losing to #66 can't be such a terrible disgrace.
With the exception of the 2007 team, the Gophers have been around 3-4 Big Ten wins each season for quite some time. We're humble enough to admit that isn't great, it's mediocre. But mediocre isn't terrible.
We have sufficient respect for MTSU, but you demand more than is reasonable for anyone.
Gold Vision
08-17-2010, 01:11 PM
It takes some doing to be the worst directional school in TN, but comparing Troy to Ohio State is putting you guys up with the geniuses over at ETSU.
Edit: Checked the Sagarin ratings at the end of last season:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm
Dance4raiders can't even read right.
MTSU 63
Gophs 64
ISU 66
Troy 69
tOSU 6
Which puts Troy more in line with Big Ten opponents such as #75 Purdue (who the Gophers Beat) or #61 Northwestern (who the Gophers beat). But yes, Troy = Ohio State.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 01:11 PM
It takes some doing to be the worst directional school in TN, but comparing Troy to Ohio State is putting you guys up with the geniuses over at ETSU.
Edit: Checked the Sagarin ratings at the end of last season:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm
Dance4raiders can't even read right.
MTSU 63
Gophs 64
ISU 66
Troy 69
tOSU 6
So if you lose to the #66 team and we're #63...wouldn't you be a little worried??? Plus, I wasn't going by last season's rankings. I was going by 2010's. And ETSU doesn't even compare to MTSU so don't even start.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 01:13 PM
You act as if Minnesota has never seen a team as good as MTSU. I assure you we have plenty of experience playing some very good teams.
You can only compare losing to Ohio State to losing to a team of the same caliber as OSU. I could say that losing a game to Minnesota-Duluth is like losing to Ohio State, and that's true in a sense, but it only compares what two teams have done in the level on which they compete, it's meaningless to make a comparison between the teams themselves.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 01:16 PM
So if you lose to the #66 team and we're #63...wouldn't you be a little worried??? Plus, I wasn't going by last season's rankings. I was going by 2010's. And ETSU doesn't even compare to MTSU so don't even start.
What ratings are you using, Sagarin's aren't out yet as far as I could see. Last year's ratings are based on a whole season of actual play. Ratings at this point mean little.
We are taking the game very seriously. But worried, no. Are MTSU fans "worried" about the game? We're simply not going to quake in our boots and grovel, no matter how much you might like it.
And it's our board, we'll start anything we feel like. :D
re3886
08-17-2010, 01:23 PM
Troy=#62
MTSU=#58
Minnesota=#67
Iowa State=#70
Troy has dominated the SunBelt the last few years. Look them up.
Isn't that like that like saying you won the last flight in a Golf tournament? Look THAT reference up.
2009 end of season conference rankings:
1. SEC
2. Big Ten
3. Big One plus the seven little Indians
4. Pac 12
5. ACC
6. Big East
7. Mountain West
8. WAC
9. Conference USA
10. MAC
11. Sun Belt
Several sources, a bit of a composite, since there is no definitive way to do it. However, the Sun Belt was ranked last in every single place I looked.
Section2
08-17-2010, 01:25 PM
You act as if Minnesota has never seen a team as good as MTSU. I assure you we have plenty of experience playing some very good teams.
You can only compare losing to Ohio State to losing to a team of the same caliber as OSU. I could say that losing a game to Minnesota-Duluth is like losing to Ohio State, and that's true in a sense, but it only compares what two teams have done in the level on which they compete, it's meaningless to make a comparison between the teams themselves.
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about the temperature in Murfreesboro. I guarantee it is going to be veeeeerry hot, and awfully wet.
Tee09
08-17-2010, 01:26 PM
If you rotate the E by 90 degrees (coincidentally the probable kickoff temperature in Murfreesboro that will make the Gophers super uncomfortable and sweaty), ETSU becomes MTSU.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 01:30 PM
Isn't that like that like saying you won the last flight in a Golf tournament? Look THAT reference up.
2009 end of season conference rankings:
1. SEC
2. Big Ten
3. Big One plus the seven little Indians
4. Pac 12
5. ACC
6. Big East
7. Mountain West
8. WAC
9. Conference USA
10. MAC
11. Sun Belt
Several sources, a bit of a composite, since there is no definitive way to do it. However, the Sun Belt was ranked last in every single place I looked.
Sagarin lists the Sun Belt as being below the I-AA Colonial conference. Of course, no one is saying we can't lose. But some of the MTSU posters are acting like they are Alabama.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 01:36 PM
Sagarin lists the Sun Belt as being below the I-AA Colonial conference. Of course, no one is saying we can't lose. But some of the MTSU posters are acting like they are Alabama.
Yeah, but Alabama lost 8 starters on defense...surely they are incapable of being decent this year. I would have that game as MTSU - 3.5
Iceland12
08-17-2010, 01:36 PM
dancefor raiders:
I get the distinct impression that you're prepared to "defend the honor of your school" when in reality, there's no reason to. You keep talking about the way Maryland and So. Miss. underestimated MTSU and seem to expect the Gophers and Gopher fans to feel the same way.
The thing is the majority of us don't.
- MTSU is favored.
- The Gophers going back at least 10 years have either lost to, or barely beat a number of teams from non-BSC conferences.
- It's the first game of what will be a very important year for Brewster and his staff.
The only thing that we're not nervous about is the heat, not THIS year anyway. The Coaching Staff though is quite concerned about it, thank you.
If your looking to use the" you better respect us" card to late; we already do.
The downside of course is that there will be no Maryland/So. Mississippi over-confidence card to play.
One other thing; the Troy State/Ohio State analogy? The "U" could easily lose to MTSU but they're 7-41 against the Buckeyes and 1-0 versus Troy State. It's a tough argument to carry regardless of the MTSU/Troy series.
re3886
08-17-2010, 01:43 PM
Sagarin lists the Sun Belt as being below the I-AA Colonial conference. Of course, no one is saying we can't lose. But some of the MTSU posters are acting like they are Alabama.
Did not want to make it to convoluted.
I was going to go with the smartest kid in the Down Syndrome class comparison, but decided it would be in poor taste and I stand by that choice.
Hey, wouldn't MTSU be acting life they are Florida, since they took second in the Sun Belt?
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 02:04 PM
SunBelt, IMO, is better than C-USA. Considering the fact that C-USA hasn't really had much luck against the SunBelt the last 2 or 3 years. Check the standings on that. Also, I'm out of here. I now see what the other Gopher boards mean about Gopherhole.com Minnesota fans being on too much Kool-Aid. No wonder the rest of the Big 10 thinks you're a joke. You are acting like you're top tier in the Big 10 when in reality, let's face it, you haven't had a winning season in how long??? To be honest, the only sane one on here seems to be Iceland. The rest of you have GOT to be on something or still living in your mother's basement. I'll be at the game in the Boro cheering on the Blue Raiders to a victory. I would LOVE to see the posts on this board if MTSU does win though. According to you guys, if MT wins, it means that you're worse than D-II.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 02:09 PM
You know what...I don't miss her one bit. I thought I would, but I don't.
Must be that time.
monk10
08-17-2010, 02:09 PM
SunBelt, IMO, is better than C-USA. Considering the fact that C-USA hasn't really had much luck against the SunBelt the last 2 or 3 years. Check the standings on that. Also, I'm out of here. I now see what the other Gopher boards mean about Gopherhole.com Minnesota fans being on too much Kool-Aid. No wonder the rest of the Big 10 thinks you're a joke. You are acting like you're top tier in the Big 10 when in reality, let's face it, you haven't had a winning season in how long??? To be honest, the only sane one on here seems to be Iceland. The rest of you have GOT to be on something or still living in your mother's basement. I'll be at the game in the Boro cheering on the Blue Raiders to a victory. I would LOVE to see the posts on this board if MTSU does win though. According to you guys, if MT wins, it means that you're worse than D-II.
Since you referenced Iceland I only think it is appropriate that yous use an emoticon to show your mad face.
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001126301/mad_face_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 02:11 PM
SunBelt, IMO, is better than C-USA. Considering the fact that C-USA hasn't really had much luck against the SunBelt the last 2 or 3 years. Check the standings on that. Also, I'm out of here. I now see what the other Gopher boards mean about Gopherhole.com Minnesota fans being on too much Kool-Aid. No wonder the rest of the Big 10 thinks you're a joke. You are acting like you're top tier in the Big 10 when in reality, let's face it, you haven't had a winning season in how long??? To be honest, the only sane one on here seems to be Iceland. The rest of you have GOT to be on something or still living in your mother's basement. I'll be at the game in the Boro cheering on the Blue Raiders to a victory. I would LOVE to see the posts on this board if MTSU does win though. According to you guys, if MT wins, it means that you're worse than D-II.
The funny thing is that not one person on this thread is saying MTSU is a joke, that the Gophers are unbeatable, or any derivation thereof.
It's just that your takes on weather, football, athleticism, etc. are at a middle-school level.
monk10
08-17-2010, 02:12 PM
It's just that your takes on weather, football, athleticism, etc. are at a middle-school level.
Maybe those "other boards" treasure those levels of conversation?
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 02:12 PM
Since you referenced Iceland I only think it is appropriate that yous use an emoticon to show your mad face.
You've been watching Jersey Shore again, haven't you?
monk10
08-17-2010, 02:15 PM
I have no idea how that came out. But I'm thoroughly pleased with your wit. :D Maybe I was awestruck by the Jersey Girl attempt in this thread that got me reminiscing of my days living in NJ.
PlayHosea
08-17-2010, 02:15 PM
If two years is "in how long", then you are right. The Gophers haven't had a winning season in how long. It sure is cute when girls think they know anything about sports. Go check on your bundt cake, Toots.
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 02:18 PM
I have no idea how that came out. But I'm thoroughly pleased with your wit. :D Maybe I was awestruck by the Jersey Girl attempt in this thread that got me reminiscing of my days living in NJ.
Where haven't you lived??
Tee09
08-17-2010, 02:19 PM
Enjoy the cake with your 'possum. Tell your fiance/cousin "howdy" from us damn yankees.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 02:19 PM
If two years is "in how long", then you are right. The Gophers haven't had a winning season in how long. It sure is cute when girls think they know anything about sports. Go check on your bundt cake, Toots.
I was hoping that her Raiders dance outfit was all white, you know...so she would match the other kitchen appliances.
monk10
08-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Where haven't you lived??
West coast/ Northwest. I was really hoping for a San Diego tour but I think the family planning stopped pretty much most of my potential moving around for a while.
GophersInIowa
08-17-2010, 02:25 PM
The funny thing is that not one person on this thread is saying MTSU is a joke, that the Gophers are unbeatable, or any derivation thereof.
It's just that your takes on weather, football, athleticism, etc. are at a middle-school level.
Yep, this thread was pure comedy. The only person to say any of those things was her. She kept defending her team when she didn't have to.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 02:25 PM
Also, I'm out of here.
Promise? The board will be a lot classier when you leave. You may not have noticed, but this is our board, and you're a guest.
I now see what the other Gopher boards mean about Gopherhole.com Minnesota fans being on too much Kool-Aid. No wonder the rest of the Big 10 thinks you're a joke. You are acting like you're top tier in the Big 10 when in reality, let's face it, you haven't had a winning season in how long???
Presumably those other Gopher boards are also populated by Gopher fans. Therefore, you would have us believe that those Gopher fans think that Gopher fans are on the Kool-aid. I can't be the only one that thinks that's odd. Our last winning season was 2008. That wasn't exactly ages ago. And no, we have clearly not been acting as if we are top-tier in the Big Ten. Any honest person who is capable of reading would know this.
When it comes to Hubris, we can't compete with the MTSU fans. We are taking this game quite seriously, a lot more seriously than MTSU fans are: I've seen posts with MTSU fans predicting scoring 50 points, winning my three or more TD, etc. Look, MTSU is a good team. But you aren't Alabama, and we aren't the bottom of the barrel.
The rest of you have GOT to be on something or still living in your mother's basement.
And you're dancing on a pole for dollar bills. Want to continue this game of nonsense insults? I'm game.
According to you guys, if MT wins, it means that you're worse than D-II.
No one has said or implied anything of the sort. I've been around long enough to have seen your type of poster before. You WANT to be able to claim that MTSU is disrespected. So you come here and demand more respect than God Himself expects. And when we don't shake in our boots, when we don't grovel at MTSU's collective feet, when we dare to actually think we will win, when we aren't struck dumb with awe at MTSU beating the #77 team in the country, you play the victim.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 02:29 PM
Promise? The board will be a lot classier when you leave.
Stay classy, Murfreesboro.
http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7935753447/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/02/Anchorman2.jpg
Gold Vision
08-17-2010, 02:31 PM
Yep, this thread was pure comedy. The only person to say any of those things was her. She kept defending her team when she didn't have to.
The LakesBison of Tennessee.
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 02:34 PM
The LakesBison of Tennessee.
That's true. They both enjoy scoring with young males.
Unregistered User
08-17-2010, 02:36 PM
That's true. They both enjoy scoring with young males.
Didn't she write that her fiancé was 8 years older than her? Do you think LakesBuffoon lied to her about his age, and took off a few years?
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 02:37 PM
The LakesBison of Tennessee.
MTSU should schedule a game with NDSU. Should be epic. Not the game, mind you, but the level of whining, and the demands of God-like respect.
re3886
08-17-2010, 02:38 PM
The LakesBison of Tennessee.
Somewhere in North Dakota, an ass clown is crying.
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 02:38 PM
Didn't she write that her fiancé was 8 years older than her? Do you think LakesBuffoon lied to her about his age, and took off a few years?
That would be plausible, except LB likes dudes. Especially the 18- and 19-year old variety, before they get all gross and hairy.
josh087
08-17-2010, 02:39 PM
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dchris%2Bhansen%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701&w=333&h=500&imgurl=farm3.static.flickr.com%2F2086%2F1630170268 _f2fe33ba10.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fusr_ti m%2F1630170268%2F&size=64k&name=Chris+Hansen&p=chris+hansen&oid=8dba3420eee28774&fr2=&fusr=murk.loar&no=1&tt=4449&sigr=11gsptpmi&sigi=11m7s2k2p&sigb=12hjjq9cc&fb=0
aclivestock
08-17-2010, 03:09 PM
It will be close to a sellout, it will probably be very warm, but not unbearable.
It should be a good football game between 2 evenly matched teams.
For the Gopher fans coming to M'Boro, we hope you enjoy your visit, you will always be able to find a 'cold' beverage.
A Big Ten school coming to town is a big deal for us, so don't take it personally if we appear a might over-zealous.
Good luck on your season
dpodoll68
08-17-2010, 03:14 PM
For the Gopher fans coming to M'Boro, we hope you enjoy your visit, you will always be able to find a 'cold' beverage.
I would really like to take this opportunity to visit the one place on earth where the law of averages doesn't apply...but unfortunately, the finances are prohibitive.
Maybe next time the Gophers play in Murfreesboro.
RodentRampage
08-17-2010, 03:16 PM
It will be close to a sellout, it will probably be very warm, but not unbearable.
It should be a good football game between 2 evenly matched teams.
For the Gopher fans coming to M'Boro, we hope you enjoy your visit, you will always be able to find a 'cold' beverage.
A Big Ten school coming to town is a big deal for us, so don't take it personally if we appear a might over-zealous.
Good luck on your season
You see, this is good. I think we're going to beat you, you think you're going to beat us. As it should be. It's a good matchup that I'm looking forward to. We may not be among the elite teams, but we regularly play them, so understand if we aren't overawed at playing a pretty good MTSU team.
16 %^%$&%$ days left. How much more NCAA Football 11 can I play?
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 03:25 PM
I left but the slander crap has GOT to stop. No I dont have white appliances (stainless steel). No I dont dance on poles and no my fiance is no more than 8 years older. And no I dont work in the kitchen. I actually have a real job in healthcare. Im not calling any of you out personally and in my opinion, that's more class than you will ever have. Get over yourselves .
PlayHosea
08-17-2010, 03:31 PM
I left but the slander crap has GOT to stop. No I dont have white appliances (stainless steel). No I dont dance on poles and no my fiance is no more than 8 years older. And no I dont work in the kitchen. I actually have a real job in healthcare. Im not calling any of you out personally and in my opinion, that's more class than you will ever have. Get over yourselves .
I could have sworn you implied that all of us were either "on something" or living in our mother's basement. Hop down off your high horse before you start accusing everyone of slandering your pristine name.
Nashvlgopher
08-17-2010, 03:35 PM
It just keeps getting better. She missed the appliance joke and says she's outta here, yet keeps checking the board every 15 minutes. You can't make this up.
dance4raiders
08-17-2010, 03:36 PM
I could have sworn you implied that all of us were either "on something" or living in our mother's basement. Hop down off your high horse before you start accusing everyone of slandering your pristine name.
"ALL OF YOU" hence that youre not PERSONALLY called out...good God. And saying that my fiance is my cousin is very immature by the way.
Damn, this is a good read. It's beginning to degenerate a bit, but still funny.
Schnauzer
08-17-2010, 03:39 PM
I think it is pretty obvious that the dancing raider has been not only been cherry picking the posts to be outraged by, but even cherry picking down to the half sentence level within those posts when necessary to further her 'no respect' argument. The last post is a perfect example of that. Sure, mom told me that two wrongs don't make a right but she also made it pretty clear to me that if I suggest that someone is on drugs or an adult living in their mother's basement... I probably could expect to get the same kind of behavior in response.
PlayHosea
08-17-2010, 03:41 PM
"ALL OF YOU" hence that youre not PERSONALLY called out...good God. And saying that my fiance is my cousin is very immature by the way.
I never mentioned your fiancé. Try again. As long as collective insults are fine, all Southern people are inbred white trash hayseeds with mouths full of crooked teeth and Skoal. Don't take it personally though.
I never mentioned your fiancé. Try again. As long as collective insults are fine, all Southern people are inbred white trash hayseeds with mouths full of crooked teeth and Skoal. Don't take it personally though.
Well, except those without any teeth.
tds2n
08-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Most ever rushing yards by a QB in a bowl game... against the team Sagarin rates as #77 in the nation.
Isn't MN ranked in the 90s now? For those saying Dasher couldn't play in a BCS conference.. Imagine what the guy could do if he had BCS level talent blocking for him.. he still ran over 60 on the ground against Clemson to the person who brought that up. and it was his first start. Special teams is what really killed MT, with spiller returning TDs.
I'm ready for for football season already. I hope you guys from MN can make it down. I think it will be a fun game. Win or lose this has to be one of the more intriguing games on opening day. Hopefully both schools get a lot of attention for it. If you guys do have a bad season in MN, things look like they could go up. seeing how you all have a ton of young talent and this MarQuise guy at QB looks like he could do things if Brewster can find some other players to put around him... 15 days, C'mon football season already..
RaiderATO
08-17-2010, 06:58 PM
I hope I didn't miss everything. . .http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll59/MeekOneGOP/EatingPopcorn.gif
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