If you are a Beck fan...

[Brew_recruit]

Can you watch this video and please explain to me how Glenn Beck is taken seriously by anyone.


http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks#p/u/7/-wGr2tM8H9E

[MrGopher]

Glenn Beck is taken seriously by FoxNews because he makes wealthy FoxNews executives wealthier.

A complete crackpot who is truly holding this country back.

[bga1]

Can you watch this video and please explain to me how Glenn Beck is taken seriously by anyone.


http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks#p/u/7/-wGr2tM8H9E

Glenn Beck is an entertainer with a view. I happen to agree with his views most of the time. The delivery can be wild but he's on the right track. Now if you want to talk crazy- let's talk Reverend Wright. That's crazy. President Obama who you love so dearly, sat in the pews for 10 years and listened to that vile man.

Your compass is off about 180 degrees Brew.

BTW- Do you believe that the Jewish people did not serve Jesus up to be crucified? The moderator (Young Turks?) is wrong.

[Cambridge Gopher]

I clicked hoping this was a link for Beck the singer.

[jamiche]

I clicked hoping this was a link for Beck the singer.

LOL! He's someone I can listen to.

[Gopher4Life]

Brew,

So you don't understand Glenn Beck? That's fine. He'd never understand you either.

[Section2]

Can you watch this video and please explain to me how Glenn Beck is taken seriously by anyone.


http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks#p/u/7/-wGr2tM8H9E

This Turks guy is making excuses for Sharpton. Sharpton clearly said, "The dream was not to put one black family in the white house, the dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house."
People are saying that King's dream is realized when Obama became president, and Sharpton is saying that the dream isn't finished. Doesn't the fact that you can hold the highest and most important person in the country despite being of color (and growing up without wealth) already represent equality of opportunity? Of course! Obviously Sharpton is saying that the dream represents NOT equality of opportunity, but equality of outcomes, which Beck pointed out. This Turks guy is obviously not being honest. I don't watch Beck, I hear he is a nut, but he's on point here. I only watched the first half.

[Brew_recruit]

This Turks guy is making excuses for Sharpton. Sharpton clearly said, "The dream was not to put one black family in the white house, the dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house."
People are saying that King's dream is realized when Obama became president, and Sharpton is saying that the dream isn't finished. Doesn't the fact that you can hold the highest and most important person in the country despite being of color (and growing up without wealth) already represent equality of opportunity? Of course! Obviously Sharpton is saying that the dream represents NOT equality of opportunity, but equality of outcomes, which Beck pointed out. This Turks guy is obviously not being honest. I don't watch Beck, I hear he is a nut, but he's on point here. I only watched the first half.

Okay Sharptons comments can be put up for debate all day. But Beck's clear misunderstanding of Jesus and "reparations" is a complete joke. That man is so off base its scary that people take him seriously.

[Section2]

Okay Sharptons comments can be put up for debate all day. But Beck's clear misunderstanding of Jesus and "reparations" is a complete joke. That man is so off base its scary that people take him seriously.

The part I commented on isn't up for debate and I didn't watch the other stuff you're talking about.

[bga1]

Okay Sharptons comments can be put up for debate all day. But Beck's clear misunderstanding of Jesus and "reparations" is a complete joke. That man is so off base its scary that people take him seriously.

Again - I think it's quuite a bit more likely that you are the one who misunderstands Jesus, Brew.

[Brew_recruit]

Again - I think it's quuite a bit more likely that you are the one who misunderstands Jesus, Brew.

so I guess you are saying that those quotes weren't in the bible.

[playhosea!]

"Modern Guilt" was a fantastic album and one of my favorites of 2008. I know that he's recently been producing albums for other artists and working on his full-album cover experimental group, but I really hope he puts out a new album soon. I hope Danger Mouse stays on as part of the production team as well because they are a great combination.

[bga1]

so I guess you are saying that those quotes weren't in the bible.

What quotes? Please offer chapter and verse and we will discuss. It's the Bible.

[Reserve]

What quotes? Please offer chapter and verse and we will discuss.

Luke 6:24

“ But woe to you who are rich,

James 5:1

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!

Mark 10:25

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

And then the Turk guy disputes Beck's quote of salvation through grace alone indicating that Beck teaches that it doesn't matter if we keep all of our money. ( close to that line of thought )

[bga1]

Luke 6:24

“ But woe to you who are rich,

James 5:1

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!

Mark 10:25

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

And then the Turk guy disputes Beck's quote of salvation through grace alone indicating that Beck teaches that it doesn't matter if we keep all of our money. ( close to that line of thought )

Reserve- I'm with you- that was a challenge to Brew Crew who seems to be making some wild interpretations of a book he does not appear to know very well. I also find it odd he can't even bring himself to capitalize the name of the Bible considering that's something you would do in recognition to any book you found today on the bookshelves, not to mention the most read book in the history of mankind. Brew Crew is out, plain and simple, to attack the principles of the Bible.

[SonOfTheVarsity]

Doesn't the fact that you can hold the highest and most important person in the country despite being of color (and growing up without wealth) already represent equality of opportunity? Of course!

That's the exact viewpoint that Sharpton is arguing against. Your line of argument says that, in effect, when Obama was elected it marked the end of racial disparity in opportunity. Sharpton and others argue that it didn't, and despite having our first black president, equality of opportunity isn't available to everyone. One man's achievements didn't completely level the playing field for everybody else. This is why he talks about equality in everyone's house. Whether or not you agree with Sharpton on that doesn't really matter, but to ignore both sides of the argument and say he is arguing for equality in results is missing his entire point.

[diehard]

Brew_ from your Pied Piper:

"George W. Bush is the most powerful man alive. He is a class A imbecile. He is far less intelligent than the average Christian. But like most of the others, he believes Jesus died for his sins. That idea is so perverse and devoid of logic it should shock the conscience. Instead, it gets him elected, and earns him the reverence of a great percentage of America. America! The most advanced country in the world -- run by a bunch of villagers who still believe Santa Claus is going to save them.

There is no damn Easter Bunny. There is no Jesus waiting to return. Moses never even existed. These were all convenient lies from the men of those times to gain power. Their actions were rational -- they wanted to deceive their brethren so that they could amass power. I get their motivations. But I cannot, for the life of me, understand our motivations, thousands of years later, still following the conmen of yesteryear into our gory, bloody, violent end.

Jesus is said to have said on the cross, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" Because Jesus was insane and the God he thought would rescue him did not exist. And he died on that cross like a fool. He fancied himself the son of God and he could barely convince twelve men to follow him at a time when the world was full of superstition.

Excellent marketing by some of his followers would later rescue his botched effort. How many people saw his miracles? One? Twelve? Eighty? Why didn't he show the whole world? Not because this is some giant pop quiz by God to test us -- but because he did not perform any miracles!

Even his apostles can't agree on what miracles he supposedly carried out or when he carried them out. Or whether he returned after death or he didn't. Whether they saw him in person or just as a vision. Rational human beings shouldn't believe this kind of nonsense. Yet most of the world does.

If a man today killed his only son to show how much he loved other people, he would be considered a madman, locked in jail and earn society's contempt. Yet we think this is some sort of noble act by our Father in Heaven.

In Heaven? What, with the harps and the winged angels and the 72 virgins? My God, how stupid do you have to be to believe that?

I know most of you don't actually read your religious texts, and when you do, you assiduously try to avoid the parts that make no sense whatsoever or hide underneath the comforting grasp of your religious leaders who have concocted a bunch of circular logic (a crime to even use that word in regards to Christianity, Islam or Judaism) to shield you from the obvious folly of the written text.

So, I'm not calling you stupid if you haven't really read the material. And I know how powerful brainwashing is. We all received it when we were young and it is exceedingly difficult to break its grasp. But people dance around the issue out of politeness because they don't want to call you what you are -- ignorant.

There are a lot of people I love dearly and respect wholeheartedly who believe in religion. I hate to do this to them. But we have killed far too many people, wasted far too much time on this nonsense for us to keep going in this direction for fear of offense.

Jesus was a lunatic. God is not coming to your rescue. He hasn't come to anyone's rescue in thousands of years, including Jesus. Mohammed was a power hungry, scam artist and ruthless conqueror. Moses and Abraham were figments of the imagination of some long dead rabbi. He would probably laugh his ass off at all of you who still believe the fairytales he made up thousands of years ago. He probably wouldn't even believe it if you told him."

[Section2]

That's the exact viewpoint that Sharpton is arguing against. Your line of argument says that, in effect, when Obama was elected it marked the end of racial disparity in opportunity. Sharpton and others argue that it didn't, and despite having our first black president, equality of opportunity isn't available to everyone. One man's achievements didn't completely level the playing field for everybody else. This is why he talks about equality in everyone's house. Whether or not you agree with Sharpton on that doesn't really matter, but to ignore both sides of the argument and say he is arguing for equality in results is missing his entire point.

Wrong. Sharpton is saying it doesn't matter that one guy became successful. There is still a giant wealth gap between blacks and whites and until that's closed, King's dream isn't finished. So yes, he is arguing equality of results. Equality of opportunity IS available to everyone. How could you argue otherwise?

[Reserve]

"George W. Bush is the most powerful man alive. He is a class A imbecile. He is far less intelligent than the average Christian. But like most of the others, he believes Jesus died for his sins.

True enough. Bush was also not a Christian though.

[SonOfTheVarsity]

Wrong. Sharpton is saying it doesn't matter that one guy became successful. There is still a giant wealth gap between blacks and whites and until that's closed, King's dream isn't finished. So yes, he is arguing equality of results. Equality of opportunity IS available to everyone. How could you argue otherwise?

Do you think the wealth gap is just a coincidence? Or do you think it is caused by some sort of inequality, and Sharpton wants to eliminate the inequalities that created the wealth gap?

[bga1]

True enough. Bush was also not a Christian though.

Bush was and is a Christian. Why do you say otherwise?

[Reserve]

While we certainly can't judge a mans heart bga, the photo's of Bush kneeling in front of the altar of another god(s) while away on foreign trips ( small g ) were proof enough that his " born again Christianity " was false.

Regardless of whether it " went with the duties of being President " A born again Christian or anyone truly with the Holy Spirit would just as soon die before bowing down to another god.

[playhosea!]

Among the older albums my favorite is "Sea Change." It's such a heartrbreaking, haunting, beautiful album from start to finish. I know people who can't stand it because they say it's too depressing, but to me it's just a perfect concept album that really captures the emotional state it's intended to evoke.

[Brew_recruit]

http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html Really good article.


Here is a question to Glenn Beck fans. Do you think that Obama passes policy based on reparations?

[diehard]

You are chasing the wrong definition of reparations. You are thinking in terms of the traditional definition. Everyone knows that isn't going to happen. However reparations in the form of "spreading the wealth around" may be possible by boiling the frog. It is more sophisticated then politics as usual. It is by the use of Alinsky tactics.

[bga1]

While we certainly can't judge a mans heart bga, the photo's of Bush kneeling in front of the altar of another god(s) while away on foreign trips ( small g ) were proof enough that his " born again Christianity " was false.

Regardless of whether it " went with the duties of being President " A born again Christian or anyone truly with the Holy Spirit would just as soon die before bowing down to another god.

I have heard other more personal stories that give much more compelling evidence that he is indeed a real solid born again Christian. But he is what he is - I think we will agree to disagree on this one since it is a matter of his heart.

[Brew_recruit]

I have heard other more personal stories that give much more compelling evidence that he is indeed a real solid born again Christian. But he is what he is - I think we will agree to disagree on this one since it is a matter of his heart.

yet you seem so certain when it comes to our current presidents heart.