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EG#9
07-08-2010, 10:08 PM
Marc Stein (ESPN) is reporting the Heat send Beasley to the Wolves for a 2011 2nd round pick and that there is an unspecified exchange of future first round picks.

I am fine with Beasley as a salary dump because he's talented and could possibly turn his career around, but I hope the Wolves didn't give up a first round pick.

Where does Beasley play with the Wolves? At the 4? the 3? Really crowded at both spots right now, must be more moves coming...hope they don't just give away Jefferson as rumored.

GoldenHerbs
07-08-2010, 10:38 PM
Not bad, Beasley was the 2nd pick last yr wasnt he? They better not just give big Al away, when healthy he is a 20 10 guy, but his D is terrible. Knowing Miami needs players Im surprised Kahn didnt trade anyone from the current roster. Hopefully when the Heat get our 1st rd pick its not finally number one.

Schlic Daddy
07-08-2010, 10:52 PM
Hopefully when the Heat get our 1st rd pick its not finally number one.

My guess is it would be lottery protected.

Rouser
07-09-2010, 06:10 AM
My guess is it would be lottery protected.

Not sure on this. However, it looks like they swap 1st round picks and the wolves have 7 years to do it..meaning a lot of things can change. Not a bad deal.

Radio Badger
07-09-2010, 06:44 AM
ESPN is now saying that they got him for a 2011 2nd-round pick.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794

march madness
07-09-2010, 08:31 AM
If we get to pick what year we want to swap; this may not be a bad trade. That's assuming they ever can get a playoff caliber team in the next 7 years.


pg flynn, sessions
sg webster, brewer
sf johnson, brewer
pf love, beasley
c darko, Pech

I think this team can run. Darko and Love can rebound. They are a much more athletic team. We seem to have better shooters. I hope we get a high first rounder for Jefferson. we have enought decent depth for once. Still need an athletic shotblocker at center, maybe next year. Beasley could be a nice scorer off the bench at the 3 or 4 if he is willing to do it.

jamiche
07-09-2010, 09:05 AM
If we get to pick what year we want to swap; this may not be a bad trade. That's assuming they ever can get a playoff caliber team in the next 7 years.


pg flynn, sessions
sg webster, brewer
sf johnson, brewer
pf love, beasley
c darko, Pech

I think this team can run. Darko and Love can rebound. They are a much more athletic team. We seem to have better shooters. I hope we get a high first rounder for Jefferson. we have enought decent depth for once. Still need an athletic shotblocker at center, maybe next year. Beasley could be a nice scorer off the bench at the 3 or 4 if he is willing to do it.

The roster, with or without Al, seems to be an upgrade over last year (not saying much). I think the wolves have to decide on Beasley's option by the end of October and it will be interesting to see if they pick it up. I dunno. The west is getting weaker which means that this team could win 30-35 games next year if they decide to play just a little bit of defense.

Iceland12
07-09-2010, 10:56 AM
From Canius Hoopus:

"One of this off season's inexplicable punch lines has been the $20 million dollar signing of Darko Milicic. Darko's contract is for $5 mil/year with a partially guaranteed 4th season. To put this deal in context, Amir Johnson just signed with the Raptors for 5 years and $34 million ($6.8 mil/year) and Drew Gooden signed with Milwaukee for 5 years and $32 million ($6.4 mil/year). Zaza Pachulia is due $14.1 mil over the next 3 years (compared to Darko's $15). Dan Gadzuric is getting over $7 mil/year this season in Golden State. DeSagana Diop signed for the full MLE in 2008 and is due $20 mil over the next 3 years. Head on over to Sham Sports and I'm sure you can find some more examples of Bigs Gone Wild on their 2nd contract.

The bottom line with Darko is that 7 foot players on their 2nd or 3rd contracts cost some coin. Never mind the fact that Darko had a cap hold of over $11 million and he was going to be resigned no matter what, the Wolves still signed a legit 7 footer in his mid 20s with NBA experience (albeit bad experience) for less than the going rate for Drew Gooden and Amir Johnson, and possibly below the market rate for centers who can give 20+ mpg who are on their second NBA contract. Yet somehow that is a punch line. Somehow it is an example of owners throwing caution to the wind and cutting checks with no concern for the bottom line.

Whatever.

David Kahn just signed Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic for a combined total of $9.3 mil/year for the next 3 seasons. Do you think they will produce more than, say, Charlie V and Jason Maxiell ($37 mil over the next 3 years)? And somehow Kahn is the joker here.

As for Mike Beasley, the Wolves get a peak at the 2nd pick in the 2008 Draft for a swap of first rounders with the Heat sometime in the next 7 years. There is literally no downside to this deal. Al Jefferson is on his way out so we don't have to worry about the logjam at the 4, there will be plenty of minutes for Beasley to showcase whatever chip he should have on his shoulder at this point in his career, and it's not like the Wolves aren't getting a guy who still has a massive upside.

There will always be the issue of him getting his head screwed on straight, but the one player I have always viewed as a valid comp for Beasley is a poor man's Carmelo Anthony. Let's take a look at their first two years in the league:"

bga1
07-09-2010, 11:13 AM
If we get to pick what year we want to swap; this may not be a bad trade. That's assuming they ever can get a playoff caliber team in the next 7 years.


pg flynn, sessions
sg webster, brewer
sf johnson, brewer
pf love, beasley
c darko, Pech

I think this team can run. Darko and Love can rebound. They are a much more athletic team. We seem to have better shooters. I hope we get a high first rounder for Jefferson. we have enought decent depth for once. Still need an athletic shotblocker at center, maybe next year. Beasley could be a nice scorer off the bench at the 3 or 4 if he is willing to do it.

Finally a smart move by Kahn. I was beginning to lose faith in the guy. Beasley has upside and opportunity. Now if we can get something good for Jefferson........

Winnipegopher
07-09-2010, 11:41 AM
Wow, Beasley must be feeling low. To go from 2nd pick overall to dumped by age 21?

It is quite possible that the Wolves will have a better record than Miami some point in the next seven years. All their money is locked into three players- if that doesn't work out due to personalities or injuries, Miami could fall hard and fast.

MN Gopher Fan
07-09-2010, 11:52 AM
I think Beasley can talk to his fellow Miami star Ted Ginn Jr. what it feels like to be a high pick then traded for garbage...

This trade does make me extremely happy though, we get a guy who has the possibility to be a star for hardly anything, the D-LeBosch deals are done in 5 years which leaves 2 years for them to suck so we can swap first rounders then...

Lastly, if we can just trade Al for a shooting guard or small forward, this team will actually be decently competitive I think.

Gopher4Life
07-09-2010, 06:00 PM
The Wolves took a huge headcase off the Heat's hands.

Omega015
07-09-2010, 07:19 PM
The Wolves finally got the lottery pick they were supposed to get in 2008, and they basically got him for nothing. Good move for them.

Costa Rican Gopher
07-09-2010, 11:08 PM
If getting traded to the T-Wolves for a 2nd rounder doesn't wake you the F up, nothing will.

Schlic Daddy
07-10-2010, 12:08 AM
Kahn is beginning to put together a competent roster for next year: Rubio, Beasley, W. Johnson, Brewer, Flynn, Darko, Pekovic (or whatever his name is), Love, Sessions. A lot of young talent in that bunch. Is anyone over 25 years old in that group?

BleedGopher
07-12-2010, 04:54 PM
The deal is official and it doesn't contain a first round pick swap, per this tweet from Zgoda:

"Heat Beasley trade no longer has first-round pick swap, second-round picks in 2011 and 2014 and cash considerations instead."

Howl Wolves!!

march madness
07-13-2010, 08:42 AM
The only exciting news of the offseason. I'll take it. And for the Carmello Anthony comparisons, similar build, similar scoring ability. Also questionable desire to rebound and play defense. If he is half as good he will be our best scorer. We need a big time defensive center to complement him and love playing together...believe me!!

march madness
07-13-2010, 08:44 AM
I am also more than happy that we didnt sign david lee. Tell me what he provides that Kevin Love cannot, or will not over the next few years. What a head scratcher that was??

Ogee Oglethorpe
07-13-2010, 08:53 AM
It occurred to me, what I like most about this move is that Kahn clearly was patient and didn't overpay for Beasley. It's clear from reports that the Heat had been shopping Beasley for quite a while and I'm sure early on the price tag was much higher than a 2nd round pick.

Kahn also appears to have been patient up to this point with other moves. I'm sure he's had some offers for Jefferson already but is holding out for a better offer.

And lastly, the old cliche is that sometimes the best move is not making a move at all. I have no doubt that Kahn has turned down a number of offers up to this point (like Flynn was rumored to be moving).

I'm anxious to see what kind of booty the T-pups are going to haul in for dealing Jefferson from some hungry team with plenty of cap space. Stay tuned

jamiche
07-13-2010, 09:28 AM
It occurred to me, what I like most about this move is that Kahn clearly was patient and didn't overpay for Beasley. It's clear from reports that the Heat had been shopping Beasley for quite a while and I'm sure early on the price tag was much higher than a 2nd round pick.

Kahn also appears to have been patient up to this point with other moves. I'm sure he's had some offers for Jefferson already but is holding out for a better offer.

And lastly, the old cliche is that sometimes the best move is not making a move at all. I have no doubt that Kahn has turned down a number of offers up to this point (like Flynn was rumored to be moving).

I'm anxious to see what kind of booty the T-pups are going to haul in for dealing Jefferson from some hungry team with plenty of cap space. Stay tuned

At this point it doesn't appear that they are going to get much for Jefferson. If the reports on the proposed trade with Utah are accurate it is basically a salary dump. The first that they will get is protected for several years.

Brew_recruit
07-13-2010, 06:52 PM
I think the most obvious thing here isn't being talked about. Jefferson and Love hated each other. They had zero chemistry together and most insiders said that they didn't get along off the court either. Now on the other hand Love and Beasley have been friends for years and have had great chemistry together on the court too.

Gopher4Life
07-14-2010, 10:49 AM
>>...and have had great chemistry together on the court too.<<

Difficult when they play the same position

jamiche
07-14-2010, 11:00 AM
I think the most obvious thing here isn't being talked about. Jefferson and Love hated each other. They had zero chemistry together and most insiders said that they didn't get along off the court either. Now on the other hand Love and Beasley have been friends for years and have had great chemistry together on the court too.

Not that it matters at this point but how do you know that Jefferson and Love hate one another.

Brew_recruit
07-14-2010, 12:19 PM
Not that it matters at this point but how do you know that Jefferson and Love hate one another.

It was just talk around the league. I know that kfan doesn't hold much weight around here, but they said it last year on kfan. Also there was always talk of them having zero chemistry.