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Gopherthewin
01-14-2009, 07:36 AM
Although the Badgers are not ranked, I believe they are still a good team, especially at home. If our Gophers go into the Kohl Center (regarded as an extremely tough place to win - Bo Ryan is like 101-6 at the Kohl Center) and beat the Badgers it would be a good win for our tournament resume and a boost to our team's road confidence. As long as we play hard, smart, and take good looks I bet we win and move on to the "home game" at Northwestern (Barnyard road trip). Beat Becky.

ruppertflywheel
01-14-2009, 09:26 AM
Should be a nail biter unless we go 9-9 on three's again.

From the Barn
01-14-2009, 09:36 AM
As long as we set screens we win.

TheDinkytowner
01-14-2009, 09:43 AM
As long as we set screens we win.


As long as Bo's whining to the refs doesn't hand it to them.

Moonlight
01-14-2009, 09:48 AM
If Bostick scores 19 points again...and Al protects the ball in the manner to which we have become accustomed.

GVBadger
01-14-2009, 09:54 AM
As long as Bo's whining to the refs doesn't hand it to them.

The checks have already been cut and they are in the secret compartment in the ref's locker room. It has nothing to do with whining, UW bribes the refs. That is why we are 114-8 at home under Ryan.

TheDinkytowner
01-14-2009, 10:10 AM
The checks have already been cut and they are in the secret compartment in the ref's locker room. It has nothing to do with whining, UW bribes the refs. That is why we are 114-8 at home under Ryan.


All bribes aside, are you denying that Bo has a certain talent for "working" the refs, especially at home?

Mikie S
01-14-2009, 10:38 AM
Letdown anyone? It would seem impossible against Bucky, but don't rule it out.

The last game was just too easy and I hope they don't go out there expecting all their shots to fall like the PSU game. I'm taking a show-me attitude with Bostick & Carter coming off such great games. With Carter, I remember how great he looked in one of those exhibition games and how his then shot disappeared until PSU. And was PSU Bostick's coming out? I sure hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised that he takes a step backward against Wiskey either.

Ogee Oglethorpe
01-14-2009, 12:18 PM
If the Gophers don't send the Badgers to the FT line 25 times, they'll have a good chance to win.

Never thought I'd say this but after watching the replay of the PSU game last night, I actually think PSU is more athletic than the Badgers.

It's always the same with Bucky and it will be the same tomorrow night; keep them off the FT line and I don't think we'll be disappointed with the outcome.

Should be a good game, although I'm not confident about pulling out a win. Gophers are still a relatively young team, lots of guys playing in just their 5th BT game. Bucky is tough if you don't play disciplined basketball and I'm not sure I'm convinced the Gophers are there quite yet. I'd feel better about the game if it were a few weeks from now, with a more 'seasoned' bunch of guys.

That being said, it is an UNBELIEVABLE luxury to have that the Gophers are not dependent on one or two guys having good nights to win. It gives them a lot more room for error than they've had in the past. Also makes them a lot tougher to defend and prepare for.

Like we've said a lot recently, we'll know a lot more about these guys after this game.

From the Barn
01-14-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm most afraid of the young players thinking that 34 seconds of defense is enough.

Dr.Don
01-14-2009, 12:43 PM
The 34 seconds of defense applies to the Bucky players as well.

ChemEGopher
01-14-2009, 01:03 PM
I think Tubby will have his guys ready. He won't allow the team to come out flat on the road two times in a row.

Gopherthewin
01-14-2009, 01:12 PM
Tubby will definitely have the guys ready to go, that rarely ever is a problem. The question is will the players come off a fairly easy win too relaxed. Remember Whiskey got spanked by 13 to Purdue their last game. So I bet they will be eager to get a W.

sal
01-14-2009, 02:23 PM
and keep the crowd out of the game. Play D with a high energy level and as Ogee mentioned, keep them off the free throw line. Maybe Hoffarber comes out of his funk and drains a few. God I'm sick of losing in Madison. Let's make some shots and win the game.

MRJ
01-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Personally, I think the Gophers are a tad more athletic from top to bottom than the Badgers, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. Wisconsin beats a lot of teams that are more athletic than they are.

The biggest key will be execution, knocking down shots and playing sound defense.

Also, if it's a close game, don't count on balanced refereeing. It just won't happen. The key will be overcoming it.

figi
01-14-2009, 04:05 PM
If the Gophers don't send the Badgers to the FT line 25 times, they'll have a good chance to win.

Never thought I'd say this but after watching the replay of the PSU game last night, I actually think PSU is more athletic than the Badgers.

It's always the same with Bucky and it will be the same tomorrow night; keep them off the FT line and I don't think we'll be disappointed with the outcome.

Should be a good game, although I'm not confident about pulling out a win. Gophers are still a relatively young team, lots of guys playing in just their 5th BT game. Bucky is tough if you don't play disciplined basketball and I'm not sure I'm convinced the Gophers are there quite yet. I'd feel better about the game if it were a few weeks from now, with a more 'seasoned' bunch of guys.

That being said, it is an UNBELIEVABLE luxury to have that the Gophers are not dependent on one or two guys having good nights to win. It gives them a lot more room for error than they've had in the past. Also makes them a lot tougher to defend and prepare for.

Like we've said a lot recently, we'll know a lot more about these guys after this game.

I agree the game will be won or lost at the free throw line. We have to make the free throws we get.

JohnnyGopher
01-14-2009, 05:07 PM
Interesting take on the gophers from the Badger board.

Wisconsin33 wrote: This is what I think of Minnesota: (In general)

Just like football, you've had a pony of a schedule up until now compared to most teams in the Big Ten and you've managed to obtain a good record.
Consequently, alllll of your terrible half-hearted fans have risen from the dead now that suddenly you might have the slightest of chances of beating Wisconsin. And, after years and years of UM "fans" saying "Yeah, yeah... the gophers suck... no one cares about sports at this school anyways," you're all suddenly ready to talk trash and point out the faults of everyone else. All of the sudden you all have a collective boner for your 2nd rate school and that piece garbage shack called "The Barn" and proclaim that it's the hardest court to play on in the world because of that INTIMIDATING raised floor! SO UNIQUE!

Well Gophers, this Badger Student doesn't buy it. You're Minnesota Gophers and you're still terrible, even if you've gotten a few wins. You, Northwestern and Indiana continue to be the embarrassment of the Big Ten. Your fans stink and once again, you'll find out, for yet another year, what it's like to naively come into the Kohl Center in Madison and be completely overwhelmed by a giant loyal fan base who will be cheering for the defending Big Ten Champions.

SO PLEASE! Come back and talk about sports with us (as if you are at the same level as Wisconsin) when your team isn't on a fluke of a start- trust me it won't happen...

maroonfive
01-14-2009, 05:19 PM
and surround him with snowmobiles and take him out. The best part is that there would be someone waiting in the woods to give him more wood so to speak.

Loyal fan base my ass. No one went to Wisconsin basketball games until they built the Kohl Center and Bo Ryan became coach.

Wisconsucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Gophers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MRJ
01-14-2009, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I've read most of his posts over the years and he's the quintessential Madison-living, Badger-loving "fan" Must have been out of alcohol or something when he posted that...

Right now, I'm sure he's looking forward to posting something interesting on the "Leftovers, Bacon and Drinking Board" over at Buckyville.com that is soooo popular amongst UW fans...:rolleyes:

ncgo4
01-14-2009, 07:06 PM
As of a few minutes ago the line was Wisconsin -8. U of M is the underdog. Not much respect, yet.

idagopher
01-14-2009, 07:18 PM
hope the gophs zones are ready to go, becky hasn't played well against the zone so far this year

Buckybacker
01-15-2009, 12:30 AM
hope the gophs zones are ready to go, bucky hasn't played well against the zone so far this year

Umm... that's completely false. In the four games that teams played a ton of zone against them, they've shot 50.5% (102/202) from the field and 47.5% (29/61) from 3.

GVBadger
01-15-2009, 07:31 AM
As of a few minutes ago the line was Wisconsin -8. U of M is the underdog. Not much respect, yet.

We have lost 3 Big Ten games at home in 7 plus years with Ryan. Did you really think that Minnesota would be favored?

GoGoGophers
01-15-2009, 07:46 AM
We have lost 3 Big Ten games at home in 7 plus years with Ryan. Did you really think that Minnesota would be favored?

I'm not sure how you interpreted that from his post. I believe the "no respect" card was played due to the spread being 8 points, not the fact that the Gophers weren't favored.

No right-minded Gopher fan thinks the team should be favored in Madison. We all know beating the Badgers in front of the self-proclaimed "giant loyal fan base" would be the greatest upset in the history of college basketball.

Please go back to Buckyville and circle jerk with the rest of the band dorks.

the accomplice
01-15-2009, 08:42 AM
Realistically I'm not sure the Badger fans should be nervous - yet. I don't think the Gophs have won in Madison since the early Clinton years but I may be wrong here. Is Tubby's team better than Bo's? That's a very legit question this year but recent history is definitely on the side of Becky.

If I were a Badger fan (and that's not really possible as I'm way too attractive for that), I wouldn't be too worried.

Pewterschmidt
01-15-2009, 09:12 AM
Run and then run some more...

This Gopher team is deep. It lacks a definitive starting 5 that sticks out from the players on the bench. Wisconsin on the other hand is not nearly as deep. Play 11 guys and run at every opportunity. Wear out Hughes, Landry, Krabbenhoft, etc to the point where they need prolonged breathers on the bench. I'll take our chances against their bench. Wisconsin is not athletic as a whole compared to the Gophers and we need to exploit it with fast breaks, presses, and an up-tempo game. There's a reason why Wisconsin has really struggled against fast, athletic teams over the past 2 seasons. Marquette, Duke, Purdue, etc have all pushed the ball with success on Becky. It's a task to win on the road and it's a task to win at the Kohl Center. However, the formula is out there to beat Becky at home and it's quite obvious IMO. We have the depth and athleticism that can exploit their glaring weaknesses. It's just a matter of setting the tempo and sticking to it. Becky is pretty darn good in the halfcourt set on both ends. Turn it into a running game and I think the Gophers win.

AzN GoPheR
01-15-2009, 09:32 AM
A win tonight and this town will be going crazy and all the non - believers will become believers.

I am a believer.

GVBadger
01-15-2009, 09:41 AM
Run and then run some more...

This Gopher team is deep. It lacks a definitive starting 5 that sticks out from the players on the bench. Wisconsin on the other hand is not nearly as deep. Play 11 guys and run at every opportunity. Wear out Hughes, Landry, Krabbenhoft, etc to the point where they need prolonged breathers on the bench. I'll take our chances against their bench. Wisconsin is not athletic as a whole compared to the Gophers and we need to exploit it with fast breaks, presses, and an up-tempo game. There's a reason why Wisconsin has really struggled against fast, athletic teams over the past 2 seasons. Marquette, Duke, Purdue, etc have all pushed the ball with success on Becky. It's a task to win on the road and it's a task to win at the Kohl Center. However, the formula is out there to beat Becky at home and it's quite obvious IMO. We have the depth and athleticism that can exploit their glaring weaknesses. It's just a matter of setting the tempo and sticking to it. Becky is pretty darn good in the halfcourt set on both ends. Turn it into a running game and I think the Gophers win.

Easier said then done. I am not sure the Gophers are in the class of Marquette, Duke and Purdue, but maybe they are. I guess time will tell. I have seen the Gophers play a number of times this year, and for all the "depth" they are supposed to have, there are many times with certain line ups on the floor where you have to wonder where the next basket is coming from.
I am not sure Joseph, Iverson, Sampson, et al are ready to play a big time game on the road. I would expect Nolen would need to play a very good game to give the Gophers a chance.

I would be shocked if the Gophers won tonight. But then again, I never think we are going to lose at home.

GVBadger
01-15-2009, 09:44 AM
I'm not sure how you interpreted that from his post. I believe the "no respect" card was played due to the spread being 8 points, not the fact that the Gophers weren't favored.

No right-minded Gopher fan thinks the team should be favored in Madison. We all know beating the Badgers in front of the self-proclaimed "giant loyal fan base" would be the greatest upset in the history of college basketball.

Please go back to Buckyville and circle jerk with the rest of the band dorks.

Calm down, junior, we are talking about basketball, not world peace.

If it makes you feel any better, it would not be the greatest upset in the history of college basketball if the Gophers won tonight. It would only be second or third.

MRJ
01-15-2009, 10:19 AM
I'm just going to say I think both teams will leave it all on the court.

Other than that, I don't really know what to expect. But I'm hoping for a spirited, highly intense game that is entertaining to watch.

After that, if the Gophers win, all the better!!!:)

GoGoGophers
01-15-2009, 12:18 PM
Calm down, junior, we are talking about basketball, not world peace.

:rolleyes: I'm not sure what part of my posts made you think I need to calm down, but whatever. It sounds like you were taken aback by my post.

Maybe you'll like the tone of the posts better on a Wisconsin board. I assure you it will be a better place to laud the achievements of all things Badger basketball and marching band. You and your guy Wisky33 can post back and forth about the overwhelming giant fanbase you guys claim to have, and talk about which dance you're going to do in the student section tonight with the rest of the band geeks.

The overcompensation will, no doubt, be staggering.

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 12:35 PM
Run and then run some more....

I see you are new to Big Ten basketball. This mantra has only been posted on every Big Ten message board since the Dick Bennett era began. Simpleton fans, who think beating Wisconsin is as easy as "running" a lot. The trick is....Wisconsin doesn't let you run! Get used to it. As a new fan of your upstart Gophers, I didn't expect you to know that. But you can't use that same line next time. Come with something better next time....which brings me to my next point....

Wisconsin will shoot more free throws. The going on 8 year conspiracy that is Bo Ryan will continue tonight. You guys will whine about it. Then it will happen in the next UW game. At some point, perhaps you guys will grow up, and not whine about something that is reality, and simply understand that Bo teachs position defense better than anyone, and stresses touching the post more than anyone. It isn't rocket science. Ask your athletic director. Too bad you were wasting your time with Monson. You would have had Ryan before Richter could get him.

BTW - for all you new basketball fans....Bo's teams average more free throws on the road than the home team also. The conspiracy travels with Bo.

GoGoGophers
01-15-2009, 01:12 PM
I love the "new to the game" rip on Gopher fans, especially coming from a Badger backer. I would have a selective memory, too, if my team went FORTY SEVEN YEARS without making the NCAA tournament.


BTW - for all you new basketball fans....Bo's teams average more free throws on the road than the home team also. The conspiracy travels with Bo.

I agree that this is overblown to some extent, and often just a loser's lament. Knight's teams were always the same way back in their day. I do often wonder while watching UW lose in the tourney, though, why those advantages don't follow them into the dance. While Bo has had a team in the round of 8 and a couple in the Sweet 16, I believe that the highest seed that Bo's Badgers have beaten in the dance is a #9. Methinks that Bo has conditioned alot of the B10 refs to see things his way, and that does not carry over with him in the national tournament.

Pewterschmidt
01-15-2009, 01:14 PM
PainterOwnsBo Wrote:
"I see you are new to Big Ten basketball. This mantra has only been posted on every Big Ten message board since the Dick Bennett era began. Simpleton fans, who think beating Wisconsin is as easy as "running" a lot. The trick is....Wisconsin doesn't let you run! Get used to it. As a new fan of your upstart Gophers, I didn't expect you to know that. But you can't use that same line next time. Come with something better next time"

Wisconsin doesn't let teams run? Boy, I remember the game against Duke last season and Duke sure ran alot and if I remember correctly, they beat Becky...by close to 30 points. Wisconsin (who I've watched play many, many times since I lived in Madison for the past 6 years, all Bo teams BTW but I guess I'm a new to BT basketball and now only a Gopher fan). How about the Marquette v Wisky game last year where Becky had no answer for the quicker, more athletic guards? How about the last 3 games against Purdue where they spread Wisky out and moved on them at will?

Setting the tempo isn't a given but if it can be set by the opponent that has the depth and athleticism that Becky lacks, they can be beat anywhere. Remember that Becky always meets their match in the NCAA tourney under Bo when they have to face a single digit seed. Those teams tend to have the depth and athleticism that Becky wouldn't always see against a double-digit seed and a traditional BT team that likes to play in a halfcourt set. I'm not saying the Gophers will beat Becky tonight. I'm saying the possibility exists because the Gophers have the parts and the blueprint to beat Becky is out there and it sticks out like a sore thumb. If the Gophers set the fast pace tempo, they win. If Becky sets there's, they win.

Those that have beat Becky under Bo's watch all tend to have the same things in common: athletic guards, depth, and the ability to run. But then again what do I know...I'm new to this BT league and am just a bandwagon fan.

SelectionSunday
01-15-2009, 01:21 PM
I'm guessing BoOwnsIzzo touches the post quite often when he thinks about Bo in his quiet moments.

GVBadger
01-15-2009, 01:33 PM
PainterOwnsBo Wrote:

I'm not saying the Gophers will beat Becky tonight. I'm saying the possibility exists because the Gophers have the parts.

Actually, the point is the Gophers don't have the parts . There is nobody on the Gophers that can score like players on Marquette, Duke or Purdue. If Hummel, Moore, Sigler, Mathews and McNeal come out in Gopher uniforms tonight, I am going to be worried. If not, the predictable result will occur. The Gophers have a nice team and they certainly are well coached. But he plays 12 for a reason, and it is not because they all have the talent of Duke, Marquette and Purdue.

The Badgers have plenty of athleticism. More then enough actually. Finally, the fast paced Gophers average 65 possessions a game, the Badgers 61. Big difference.

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 01:42 PM
PainterOwnsBo Wrote:
"I see you are new to Big Ten basketball. This mantra has only been posted on every Big Ten message board since the Dick Bennett era began. Simpleton fans, who think beating Wisconsin is as easy as "running" a lot. The trick is....Wisconsin doesn't let you run! Get used to it. As a new fan of your upstart Gophers, I didn't expect you to know that. But you can't use that same line next time. Come with something better next time"

Wisconsin doesn't let teams run? Boy, I remember the game against Duke last season and Duke sure ran alot and if I remember correctly, they beat Becky...by close to 30 points.

You brought up Duke? Why not the Lakers? For cripesake, I mentioned BIG TEN MESSAGE BOARDS and you think Duke applies. OK, OK, I guess I should have qualified it with...."Everyone once in a while, a team with numerous All-Americans out does Wisconsin at their game." Not the Goofies, and not the rest of the Big Ten. And not only that, there are plenty of times that Wisconsin has gone toe to toe with deep, talented teams - like the UNC national championship team a few years ago. Texas last year in Austin.

Name for me ONE Big Ten team that has been able to run on Wisconsin? I don't mean just a single breakaway layup....I mean dictate tempo. It is none. MSU continully tries it....which is why Bo owns Izzo.

"Wisconsin (who I've watched play many, many times since I lived in Madison for the past 6 years, all Bo teams BTW but I guess I'm a new to BT basketball and now only a Gopher fan)."

You've watched a lot of UW hoops? Sorry, I couldn't tell by your observation.

"How about the Marquette v Wisky game last year where Becky had no answer for the quicker, more athletic guards?"

Does Minnesota have three NBA guards? No, they don't. No Minnesota guard would get significant minutes at Marquette.

"How about the last 3 games against Purdue where they spread Wisky out and moved on them at will?"

You are not Purdue. And again...it wasn't Purdue "running" that hurt Wisconsin. It was their physical inside game on both ends this past Sunday. That usually doesn't happen to Wisconsin. Landry had an off game. Purdue was better. They won. So be it.

"I'm not saying the Gophers will beat Becky tonight."

Here is what I'm saying....you are not going to win by running. Forget it. It won't happen.

"I'm saying the possibility exists because the Gophers have the parts and the blueprint to beat Becky is out there and it sticks out like a sore thumb."

The "blueprint" to beat Wisconsin is for a top ranked, talented team - Purdue, Marquette, Texas and UConn. If you think Minnesota is in that class....you are completely dillusional. And I've seen plenty of Minnesota basketball.

Here is what's going to happen. UW will win. They will end up a minimum of 12-6 in the Big Ten. And they will be a contender AGAIN in the Big Ten - 12 wins in the Big Ten this season is a heck of a showing. Book it. It's UW hoops. For the forseeable future, Wisconsin is a big dog in this conference. Until Minnesota establishes themselves as a contender over the longhaul, the jury will be out. Talk is cheap for Minnesota.

NateDawgUM
01-15-2009, 01:49 PM
Lol, who is this guy?

I love it when posters invade our board and obviously have their entire manhood riding on a sports team.

Let me break it to you, Wisconsin's success has NOTHING to do with you!

Find a more productive way to spend your day.

sanowai
01-15-2009, 01:55 PM
TubbywillownBO

Here is what is going to happen.

You will go to sleep or I will put you to sleep. Your in my world now Grandma!!!!!

TubbywillownBO

TheHofferette
01-15-2009, 02:12 PM
BoOwnsIzzo-there is a lot of crap being slung back and forth on this thread, as is to be expected, however I do disagree w/ one thing you said. Nolen would get playing time on Marquette. he is a Soph and would be a tremendous backup to James (better than Acker anyway). the 3 future NBA stars (which I will have to see to believe, I don't think James makes it more than a journeyman/role player) are Seniors right now and Nolen would definitely be an asset to Marquette's team. he is a great PG, whether you like the Gophers or not.

Buckybacker
01-15-2009, 02:45 PM
BoOwnsIzzo-there is a lot of crap being slung back and forth on this thread, as is to be expected, however I do disagree w/ one thing you said. Nolen would get playing time on Marquette. he is a Soph and would be a tremendous backup to James (better than Acker anyway). the 3 future NBA stars (which I will have to see to believe, I don't think James makes it more than a journeyman/role player) are Seniors right now and Nolen would definitely be an asset to Marquette's team. he is a great PG, whether you like the Gophers or not.

I completely agree that Nolen could see significant time at Marquette, possibly be their 6th man, but the fact remains that Minnesota doesn't match the talent level of the teams that have beat Wisconsin by running. To beat Wisconsin when you don't have the talent of a Marquette, Duke, Purdue, MSU, or etc, you have to out-execute them and be as disciplined. I don't know if a young Minnesota team is up to that challenge yet, especially in a hostile arena like the Kohl. But if one of the Gophs get hot, a la Stanley Pringle a couple weeks ago, then they've got a chance.

And if you're trying to run on Wisconsin to make the starters tire and get replaced, then Bo's inserting more athletic guys. Wisconsin's bench is young and only 4 or 5 deep, but 3 of the top 4 are more capable of a run and gun game than Nankivil, Krabbenhoft, and maybe Bohannon too.

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 02:50 PM
Nolen would get playing time on Marquette.

No...he wouldn't.

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 02:52 PM
I love it when posters invade our board and obviously have their entire manhood riding on a sports team.

Let me break it to you, Wisconsin's success has NOTHING to do with you!

This is purely entertainment. No place more entertaining then the Gopher Hole. Good for a lot of laughs.

Mayne Street
01-15-2009, 02:53 PM
Would Trevon Hughes get playing time at Marquette?

Drex96
01-15-2009, 03:14 PM
No...he wouldn't.


LOL!!! As a person who actually is quite connected with the Marquette program I assure you that Nolen would get significant playing time there, as would Trevon Hughes.

However, both are playing against each other in a Gopher/Badger game in Madison. Both are essential keys to whether their respective teams come away tonight with a W or L. My money is on the Gophers but that's why I post on the Gopherfan site and not the Badgers.

Enjoy the game everyone.

Goph4phan
01-15-2009, 03:35 PM
I see you are new to Big Ten basketball ... As a new fan of your upstart Gophers, I didn't expect you to know that.


Actually, BOI, Pewter has been on this board for a very long time. Thanks for trying. Head east.

GoGoGophers
01-15-2009, 03:40 PM
To beat Wisconsin when you don't have the talent of a Marquette, Duke, Purdue, MSU, or etc, you have to out-execute them and be as disciplined. I don't know if a young Minnesota team is up to that challenge yet, especially in a hostile arena like the Kohl.

I tend to agree with you. I'm very skeptical that the Gophers can out-execute the Badgers and win this game. Wisconsin is too experienced and disciplined for the Gophers to win at the KC tonight.

But the way your Badger brethren talk...my god. BoOwnsIzzo (except in tournament wins, Final Fours, national championships, respect, etc.) makes it sound like only teams full of AA players stand a chance against the juggernaut Badge. UW's best win this year is against Michigan for christ's sake. Let's actually play some games before we award them a championship, 'kay?

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 03:41 PM
Actually, BOI, Pewter has been on this board for a very long time. Thanks for trying. Head east.

Yeah, if he's been around hoops a while, you'd think he'd come up with a better game plan then "run it" on Wisconsin. Like I said, he doesn't make me think he knows what he's talking about with comments like those.

And he, nor anyone else, could name a Big Ten program that beat Wisconsin by "running" on them. I'm still waiting for that.

BoOwnsIzzo
01-15-2009, 03:46 PM
I tend to agree with you. I'm very skeptical that the Gophers can out-execute the Badgers and win this game. Wisconsin is too experienced and disciplined for the Gophers to win at the KC tonight.

But the way your Badger brethren talk...my god. BoOwnsIzzo (except in tournament wins, Final Fours, national championships, respect, etc.) makes it sound like only teams full of AA players stand a chance against the juggernaut Badge. UW's best win this year is against Michigan for christ's sake. Let's actually play some games before we award them a championship, 'kay?

Let's see.....UConn, Texas, Marquette and Purdue. All have top 10 talent. Right? That's who has beaten Wisconsin.

And Izzo does not own Bo in any of those. Bo has 4 NCs, numerous FFs and tournament wins. If you think the game is different from D-III as far as X's and O's, Bo Ryan is proof that it isn't. Bo had to blaze his own trail to get to the UW. Man, I wish they had hired him much earlier. One has to wonder if Izzo would have all those accomplishments had Bo been around to bully him into the corner in the 90s. From how he owns him now, you'd have to think not!

freshtrout
01-15-2009, 03:53 PM
Mich St can and will .. How many fastbreaks did Purdue have in their win against the Badgers?

GoGoGophers
01-15-2009, 03:56 PM
And Izzo does not own Bo in any of those. Bo has 4 NCs, numerous FFs and tournament wins. If you think the game is different from D-III as far as X's and O's, Bo Ryan is proof that it isn't.

Oh. My. F*cking. God.

I can't believe I just read this.

Is this the prevailing opinion of all Badger fans or just Mrs. Ryan here? I'm really curious.

Pewterschmidt
01-15-2009, 04:45 PM
Does PainterOwnsBo know what "up tempo" means? Clue: It's not just fast breaks.

MRJ
01-15-2009, 05:17 PM
Actually, Izzo does own Bo in terms of NCAA success...sorry, but winning DIII championships and DI championships are a completely different animal.

Or maybe you'd like to argue that UW-Platteville would have beaten Michigan State back then??

Or maybe you'd like to point out how many appearances in the final four that Bo has since he's been at Wisconsin versus Izzo??

ChemEGopher
01-15-2009, 05:40 PM
And Izzo does not own Bo in any of those. Bo has 4 NCs, numerous FFs and tournament wins. If you think the game is different from D-III as far as X's and O's, Bo Ryan is proof that it isn't.

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Slim Tubby
01-15-2009, 06:08 PM
This is purely entertainment. No place more entertaining then the Gopher Hole. Good for a lot of laughs.

If you're looking for more laughs you could always drop your pants in front of a mirror....

grunkiejr
01-15-2009, 10:53 PM
You brought up Duke? Why not the Lakers? For cripesake, I mentioned BIG TEN MESSAGE BOARDS and you think Duke applies. OK, OK, I guess I should have qualified it with...."Everyone once in a while, a team with numerous All-Americans out does Wisconsin at their game." Not the Goofies, and not the rest of the Big Ten. And not only that, there are plenty of times that Wisconsin has gone toe to toe with deep, talented teams - like the UNC national championship team a few years ago. Texas last year in Austin.

Name for me ONE Big Ten team that has been able to run on Wisconsin? I don't mean just a single breakaway layup....I mean dictate tempo. It is none. MSU continully tries it....which is why Bo owns Izzo.

"Wisconsin (who I've watched play many, many times since I lived in Madison for the past 6 years, all Bo teams BTW but I guess I'm a new to BT basketball and now only a Gopher fan)."

You've watched a lot of UW hoops? Sorry, I couldn't tell by your observation.

"How about the Marquette v Wisky game last year where Becky had no answer for the quicker, more athletic guards?"

Does Minnesota have three NBA guards? No, they don't. No Minnesota guard would get significant minutes at Marquette.

"How about the last 3 games against Purdue where they spread Wisky out and moved on them at will?"

You are not Purdue. And again...it wasn't Purdue "running" that hurt Wisconsin. It was their physical inside game on both ends this past Sunday. That usually doesn't happen to Wisconsin. Landry had an off game. Purdue was better. They won. So be it.

"I'm not saying the Gophers will beat Becky tonight."

Here is what I'm saying....you are not going to win by running. Forget it. It won't happen.

"I'm saying the possibility exists because the Gophers have the parts and the blueprint to beat Becky is out there and it sticks out like a sore thumb."

The "blueprint" to beat Wisconsin is for a top ranked, talented team - Purdue, Marquette, Texas and UConn. If you think Minnesota is in that class....you are completely dillusional. And I've seen plenty of Minnesota basketball.

Here is what's going to happen. UW will win. They will end up a minimum of 12-6 in the Big Ten. And they will be a contender AGAIN in the Big Ten - 12 wins in the Big Ten this season is a heck of a showing. Book it. It's UW hoops. For the forseeable future, Wisconsin is a big dog in this conference. Until Minnesota establishes themselves as a contender over the longhaul, the jury will be out. Talk is cheap for Minnesota.

Can someone from GH please lock this thread until March? I really want to see this particular post stick on the top of the board for everyone to come back and get a chuckle at. When I'm feeling down because I've had a bad day, I want to have a reason to smile.

Gold Rush
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Wow --- lots of smack from the Badger faithful, as usual.

Guess it sucks to be them tonight.....LOL.