Heupel is not the new OC

[borninthebarn]

Can't be any more specific now, but he will not be our next OC.

[Gopher4life15]

Wow . .Sounded like a done deal. Maybe Brew wants someone with a little more experience.

[TheDinkytowner]

Maybe OU pulled out the checkbook.

[gophermartin]

...was hoping for him...as it seemed to be a good fit with our new running game.

And he would have been great for the QBs.

Here's to getting someone with a similar resume.

GM

[DiehardGopher]

Or maybe Shannahan decided that he had enough money and is gonna come on board as our new OC.

[daxter]

Ok, Heupel will not be our new OC, then can you answer if we do have a new OC? You can give that out at least.

So throw us a bone.

[31 Points]

Or if he's coming from the NFL.......or the NCAA ranks ?

Shanahan should be headed to the Dallas Cowboys soon I guessing.

[gold04]

Norm Chow new OC

[Plinnius]

JohnnyGopher?

[runner616]

Can't be any more specific now, but he will not be our next OC.

Got anything more to add to this statement? Or are you just pulling this outta thin air?

[borninthebarn]

I have no idea who it will be. Just that it is not Heupel.

I have no special connections into the program, but have a connection to Heupel.

[GophersInIowa]

I have no idea who it will be. Just that it is not Heupel.

I have no special connections into the program, but have a connection to Heupel.

Do you know if it never was going to be Heupel and the rumors we were hearing were just false, or were the rumors true and something has just changed in the past few days?

[Gopherjer]

If this is true, it does not sound good. How do you explain to recruits and fans that you are now on your fourth choice. It appears nobody wants this job, not very attractive.

[idagopher]

Tony Dungy

[cheeseheadgophfan]

If this is true, it does not sound good. How do you explain to recruits and fans that you are now on your fourth choice. It appears nobody wants this job, not very attractive.

Who would have been our top- 3 choices? By most accounts, Heupel was 1 or maybe 2 (behind Applewhite?)

[alpinegopher]

Probably Chaney

[gold04]

I'd take Mike Hohensee. Sign him to a 1 year contract like Cosgrove. That way if things don't work out your off the hook. If things go well I think Hohensee could stay here for a long time. With a one year contract you've got almost nothing to lose.

[polar bear29]

I'd take Mike Hohensee. Sign him to a 1 year contract like Cosgrove. That way if things don't work out your off the hook. If things go well I think Hohensee could stay here for a long time. With a one year contract you've got almost nothing to lose.

How do you sell that to recruits? They want to know who will be running the offense in the future. They do not want to commit if they have no idea who the OC is going to be after the 1 year contract. They are looking for stability also.

[GopherGod]

How do you sell that to recruits? They want to know who will be running the offense in the future. They do not want to commit if they have no idea who the OC is going to be after the 1 year contract. They are looking for stability also. I am wondering if Bruininks or Maturi is behind the one year contract for Cosgrove. I don't know but am just curious if President Bruininks said "Joel, we already paying millions of dollars to several coaches between basketball and football which are not coaching here right now and we cannot risk another financial hit at this time so therefore can only do a one year deal at this time." I am sure with the government shortfall that things may be getting a little tight at the University right now from a financial standpoint.

[harrys ghost]

I am wondering if Bruininks or Maturi is behind the one year contract for Cosgrove. I don't know but am just curious if President Bruininks said "Joel, we already paying millions of dollars to several coaches between basketball and football which are not coaching here right now and we cannot risk another financial hit at this time so therefore can only do a one year deal at this time." I am sure with the government shortfall that things may be getting a little tight at the University right now from a financial standpoint.

Maturi said it was Brewster's call. You can take that as you will.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Brewster is only making $800,000 per year. He has an additional $200,000 deferred that he only gets if he makes it through year five. They have a bit of slack.

[FiveStarFan]

Was told by a friend that it was annouced in Norman today that Heupel was staying at OU. Seems to be confirmed...Wish it wasnt true.

[NC 2 MN]

Maturi said it was Brewster's call. You can take that as you will.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Brewster is only making $800,000 per year. He has an additional $200,000 deferred that he only gets if he makes it through year five. They have a bit of slack.

Right - and as I remember one of the local fishwraps reporting, Brewster took less with the express purpose of having more money to go out and get the assistants he wanted.;)

[harrys ghost]

Right - and as I remember one of the local fishwraps reporting, Brewster took less with the express purpose of having more money to go out and get the assistants he wanted.;)

Back in the days before coordinators were making $600,000 a year. :eek:

[GopherGod]

Right - and as I remember one of the local fishwraps reporting, Brewster took less with the express purpose of having more money to go out and get the assistants he wanted.;)


I have no doubt it will be tough for him to get a great coordinator with the salary limitations if there are any in place. I would suspect there would be however and it may have gotten tighter if the university is factoring in Dunbar and Meyers salaries that we are on the hook for.

[grunkiejr]

I am wondering if Bruininks or Maturi is behind the one year contract for Cosgrove. I don't know but am just curious if President Bruininks said "Joel, we already paying millions of dollars to several coaches between basketball and football which are not coaching here right now and we cannot risk another financial hit at this time so therefore can only do a one year deal at this time." I am sure with the government shortfall that things may be getting a little tight at the University right now from a financial standpoint.

A year-to-year contract for an OC/DC isn't rare. Roof had a similar term for his contract.

[GopherGod]

A year-to-year contract for an OC/DC isn't rare. Roof had a similar term for his contract.

I am curious as to what other OC/DC are on a year to year contract. I know that Colorado used to have a state law where all employees wer on a year to year contract but the law was changed there recently to give exemptions to 6 or 8 university employees to have multi-year contracts which went to the football HC, basketball HC, A.D., president, etc...

[tjgopher]

I am curious as to what other OC/DC are on a year to year contract. I know that Colorado used to have a state law where all employees wer on a year to year contract but the law was changed there recently to give exemptions to 6 or 8 university employees to have multi-year contracts which went to the football HC, basketball HC, A.D., president, etc...

Almost all position coaches are on year-to-year contracts. We are not on the hook for Meyer, as he was year-to-year. However, many coordinators are now benefiting from multi-year deals. Unless Dunbar gets another job, then we are on the hook for his money. Not all coordinators get multi-year deals, however, as with the Cosgrove hiring. Not totally uncommon.

Interesting now, many schools are paying their strength and conditioning coaches (if they are good) like coordinators, too.

[Nine]

If I'm not mistaken, Mitch Browning and company had 10 one year contracts. All assistants are on one year contracts.

This is where it got tricky as their contracts renewed as of a certain date...maybe Jan 1, so Maturi wanted to either re-sign Mase or else let him go as to not get stuck with 10 assistant coaches salary's as they automatically renew when the clock struck midnight on whatever date.

They were all on one year contracts and renwed each year.

Withers, Roof and Dunbar were exceptions and probably since the head coach is always given at least 3 years to get his system in place, thus allowed to hire assistants more long term.

I would assume big time coordinators at some big schools probably have multi year deals too.

[tjgesquire]

I haven't seen anything on the Oklahoma message boards or the Norman area newspapers and TV stations about Heupel, other than that he is a candidate for the job here. I would think if it's been announced that he is staying, that would be reported somewhere.

[Redbeard]

Tony Dungy

If only. :)
But, he's a defense coach (even though he played QB in college) so, unless they're going to axe Cosgrove right away . . .

[grunkiejr]

If I'm not mistaken, Mitch Browning and company had 10 one year contracts. All assistants are on one year contracts.

This is where it got tricky as their contracts renewed as of a certain date...maybe Jan 1, so Maturi wanted to either re-sign Mase or else let him go as to not get stuck with 10 assistant coaches salary's as they automatically renew when the clock struck midnight on whatever date.

They were all on one year contracts and renwed each year.

Withers, Roof and Dunbar were exceptions and probably since the head coach is always given at least 3 years to get his system in place, thus allowed to hire assistants more long term.

I would assume big time coordinators at some big schools probably have multi year deals too.

A lot of it has to do with the market. Regardless of what Cal thought of Dunbar, he had an offensive coordinator job and Minnesota had to give him a guarantee for some period of time for him to make the move. Roof was a linebackers coach so to get him to take DC at Minnesota we didn't have to give more than a year-to-year contract. Cosgrove was sitting at home and Lee was an assistant coach with a year-to-year contract so the Gophers don't have to give a guaranteed contract to convince them to serve as co-DC. The only thing that would change that is if one of them had a competing offer and Minnesota had to trump the offer to keep the coach.

In corporate America this is common for VP level jobs that pay $150,000+ or jobs with high incentive pay within the compensation structure.

[JohnnyGopher]

For what its worth, heard we have an OC and will announce tomarrow. Source would not say who it was though. I know the easy comeback is to say this was the same person who called Heupel a done deal, and thats true and fair criticism, just passing on the info.

[16FeetUnder]

For what its worth, heard we have an OC and will announce tomarrow. Source would not say who it was though. I know the easy comeback is to say this was the same person who called Heupel a done deal, and thats true and fair criticism, just passing on the info.

Thanks JohnnyGopher: I'm hoping the reason that Heupel is not our next OC is because we found somebody that we wanted more.

[ChickenLittle2011]

Can we assume then that it's not Heupel? I'm not sure we've actually received confirmation on that stroy....

[Handsome Pete]

For what its worth, heard we have an OC and will announce tomarrow. Source would not say who it was though. I know the easy comeback is to say this was the same person who called Heupel a done deal, and thats true and fair criticism, just passing on the info.

If it's not Heupel it seems like the deal was sealed quickly. Hope that means it's someone that is excited about the opportunity. Woo hoo! Hope this helps.

[lawrence21]

if we really have an OC hired and they will announce tomorrow, how is it that only 1 name has really been leaked to be a distinct possibility and now people are saying Heupel is not it? Does anybody have an educated guess as to who it might be if not Heupel?

[WillieBurton]

It's going to be Brohm from Louisville or Jay Norvell from Oklahoma.

[foggiedaze]

BornintheBarn,

I sent you a message earlier, but I don't know if you received it. I have no connection to the U either, but I have a very good connection to Heupel as well. We might know each other in some capacity. Shoot me a private message if you get a chance as I'd love to know your connection with Josh and the events unfolding....

[Handsome Pete]

It's going to be Brohm from Louisville or Jay Norvell from Oklahoma.

Presuming you're serious, nice info. Haven't seen either of these two names yet.

Here's Norvell: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=7

Here's Brohm: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=606

[GopherGod]

Presuming you're serious, nice info. Haven't seen either of these two names yet.

Here's Norvell: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=7

Here's Brohm: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=606

It cannot be Brohm, he doesn't have the University of Wisconsin on his resume. Jay Norvell would be the ideal guy, from Madison, WI and coached there. No seriously, I think he is a pretty good coach.

[ncgo4]

There's been a lot of turnover on the Louisville coaching staff and one post on their board suggesting Brohm could be gone by Monday:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2759&t=3752389

[grunkiejr]

It's going to be Brohm from Louisville or Jay Norvell from Oklahoma.

Brohm was interviewed but he is no longer a candidate.

[grunkiejr]

There's been a lot of turnover on the Louisville coaching staff and one post on their board suggesting Brohm could be gone by Monday:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2759&t=3752389

He could be gone by Monday but he is not coming here. He was interviewed but he is no longer a candidate for our position.

[EG#9]

I am not sure I like the Brohm candidacy as the Louisville board has a rumor that he is being demoted from OC there and was looking around for other jobs because of that demotion. It does seem like the majority of posters there don't care for their head coach Steve Kragthorpe

Could be sour grapes, could be true, more speculation.

[Border Gopher]

For what its worth, heard we have an OC and will announce tomarrow. Source would not say who it was though. I know the easy comeback is to say this was the same person who called Heupel a done deal, and thats true and fair criticism, just passing on the info.

.....

[GoldenGo4Fan]

Is their anyway that maybe Heupel is still an option or is Rival's just behind in their reporting. This article is dates 1/13? The part referring to the Gophers is is the "More Buzz" at the end of the article. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=899615

Also, I didn't know how many coaching changes were going on all over the country. No wonder it is taking some time. I am sure any good candidate we may be considering would also be candidates at other schools.

[Bo Darville]

Brohm was at Louisville before Kragthorpe.