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JohnnyGopher
04-17-2010, 08:06 AM
I know, another Cory Joespeh thread, sorry ....It sounds like Cory has already decided on a school but has only told a select few people who aren't talking. Coaches haven't been told anything, especially MN coaches who really have no idea where they stand with Cory right now. It has been a three team race for awhile. Most people think Texas but really everybody is just guessing. I think MN still believes they have a shot but they realize now that they need to look at other guard options:confused:. Brust would be the next option but right now Wisconsin is the favorite to land him although that could change after coaches have a chance to visit with him. As for Oto, opinions are all over ther place on him, some think he's a hidden gem, others that he's a good player but will need a few years, and others think he should be visiting Mankato, even MN coaches not in consensus on him. Nothing has changed on Noreen and MN and no movement with Cody Larson either. Our situation changes every day though so who knows what next week will bring, at least we will know the Cory Joseph saga will be over, he may announce tonight although haven't seen anything official on that.
station19
04-17-2010, 08:17 AM
Thanks for the update JG.
tjgopher
04-17-2010, 08:21 AM
Brust would be the next option. no movement with Cody Larson either.
Brust and Larson are NOT options unless they want to pay their own way. Big Ten transfer rules apply here because they signed a Letter of Intent. Big brew-haha over the entire situation started yesterday. Emails sent from Big Ten office to the entire conference. Suffice it to say, it sounds like Brust and Larson will play outside of the Big Ten.
Gold Vision
04-17-2010, 08:23 AM
They were let out of their LOI. No transfer rules apply.
I'm afraid Cory is going to be like S Henderson - we were considered but no cigar. Hope I am wrong!
Section201
04-17-2010, 08:38 AM
I know, another Cory Joespeh thread, sorry ....It sounds like Cory has already decided on a school but has only told a select few people who aren't talking. Coaches haven't been told anything, especially MN coaches who really have no idea where they stand with Cory right now. It has been a three team race for awhile. Most people think Texas but really everybody is just guessing. I think MN still believes they have a shot but they realize now that they need to look at other guard options:confused:. Brust would be the next option but right now Wisconsin is the favorite to land him although that could change after coaches have a chance to visit with him. As for Oto, opinions are all over ther place on him, some think he's a hidden gem, others that he's a good player but will need a few years, and others think he should be visiting Mankato, even MN coaches not in consensus on him. Nothing has changed on Noreen and MN and no movement with Cody Larson either. Our situation changes every day though so who knows what next week will bring, at least we will know the Cory Joseph saga will be over, he may announce tonight although haven't seen anything official on that.
Threads from you are always welcome.
I hope the best for Cory but I wish he would announce soon. The anticipation is killing me.
Go Gophers.
Gopher in Texas
04-17-2010, 08:49 AM
I hope Tee09 was one of the select few.
JohnnyGopher - any chance that Justin Cobbs stays?
tjgopher
04-17-2010, 08:53 AM
They were let out of their LOI. No transfer rules apply.
Yes tranfers rules do apply. It is a conference rule, even if they were granted a release. That's why there was a big ruckus from the Big Ten Conference yesterday and emails sent to all conference schools.
Go Gophs eh?
04-17-2010, 08:53 AM
If joseph doesnt come here oh well, we still have the best defensive point gaurd in the big ten in my opinion, and devoe could also take the point and move blake to SG, giving RW jr. a starting spot. Also if joseph goes to Texas i want to kill Barnes. lol
Tee09
04-17-2010, 08:57 AM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
Go Gophs eh?
04-17-2010, 09:02 AM
yea ok sir. :rolleyes:
burton34
04-17-2010, 09:15 AM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
:eek:WHo is your buddy? Devoe?:eek:
Sid Hartman
04-17-2010, 09:16 AM
Yes tranfers rules do apply. It is a conference rule, even if they were granted a release. That's why there was a big ruckus from the Big Ten Conference yesterday and emails sent to all conference schools.
If transfer rules apply, someone better let Bo Ryan and Tubby know as they are visiting with Brust this weekend
tjgopher
04-17-2010, 09:20 AM
If transfer rules apply, someone better let Bo Ryan and Tubby know as they are visiting with Brust this weekend
Did you read what I said? The Big Ten notified all conference schools via email yesterday. Bo and Tubby know now. Or, they should.
gopherphan
04-17-2010, 09:22 AM
here's hoping tee09's 'this guy i trust' is alot better than the recent ones weve had to deal with (Dodd, marcus, etc)
:)
Gopherholefan
04-17-2010, 09:30 AM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
God I hope youre not "BSing" with us...
koppco1
04-17-2010, 09:33 AM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
Does "we" refer to Texas fans, Nova fans, or Minnesota fans.
Section201
04-17-2010, 09:39 AM
:eek:WHo is your buddy? Devoe?:eek:
Now that would be good !
burton34
04-17-2010, 09:46 AM
Honestly, from an objective standpoint it seems likely that Cory will sign here. Let's look at the signs over the past few months:
-Cory has always stated that him and Devoe wanted to play together in college
-Mom Joseph loves MN and Tubby
-Devoe is thriving here
-Cory said he wants to go to a place where he feels comfortable
-Mo Walker, who didn't even list MN on his final list in February, suddenly had a change of heart in late March and had now signed a MN LOI
In my mind, the Mo Walker signing seems like the biggest sign. I don't know. Thoughts?
Holy Man
04-17-2010, 09:47 AM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
Tee, you are setting yourself up to be a message board legend or an all-time goat with that post. Here's hoping for legend status!
GophersOnTheRise
04-17-2010, 09:49 AM
Does "we" refer to Texas fans, Nova fans, or Minnesota fans.
Good question. Hopefully he means Minnesota, and hopefully he's not "BSing" us. The anticipation is killing me.
Gopher in Texas
04-17-2010, 09:51 AM
That's OK. If it doesn't work out you can change your Moniker (say Tee10).
Gopher Warrior
04-17-2010, 10:03 AM
Honestly, from an objective standpoint it seems likely that Cory will sign here. Let's look at the signs over the past few months:
-Cory has always stated that him and Devoe wanted to play together in college
-Mom Joseph loves MN and Tubby
-Devoe is thriving here
-Cory said he wants to go to a place where he feels comfortable
-Mo Walker, who didn't even list MN on his final list in February, suddenly had a change of heart in late March and had now signed a MN LOI
In my mind, the Mo Walker signing seems like the biggest sign. I don't know. Thoughts?
I don't think there is such thing as an 'objective standpoint' in a situation like this. Minnesota is still a possibility, and that is a great position to be in as of now. After that, I'm not sure that there are any facts and circumstances that can be objectively rationalized as a reason that Cory Joseph will choose one school or another.
For example, you say that a reason why Cory Joseph is likely to come to Minnesota is that Devoe is thriving here... even if one would accept the claim that Devoe is thriving here (which is a whole different topic), that's not objective - it may be a positive or a negative... what does Cory think about it? What does the family think about it? What does Devoe think about it? Perhaps Cory is looking at Minnesota and saying, "Devoe could make this his team.. he can be the leader of a good team. Great position for him to be in, I don't want to come and maybe steal some of my brother's thunder. I will let him do his thing, I will do mine. He's making his name there and I don't want to take away from that."
PS - to describe the Maurice Walker signing as simply a 'sudden change of heart' on Mo's part is an inappropriate characterization.
PPS - for a recent local-related example of brothers that talk up how great playing together would be, how they dreamed of it, how the parents would love it, etc... think back to Saku Koivu and the Wild. There are many angles that facts and circumstances can be viewed from.
Winona Gopher
04-17-2010, 10:45 AM
Does anyone really know when Cory is going to announce is decision. I know we have heard after the Jordan Brand classic, but is there a specific date?
gophersfan
04-17-2010, 10:48 AM
Does anyone really know when Cory is going to announce is decision. I know we have heard after the Jordan Brand classic, but is there a specific date?
maybe he announcing it tonight after the game. the Jordan Brand Classic is tonight on ESPN2.
UWOle
04-17-2010, 10:50 AM
Did you read what I said? The Big Ten notified all conference schools via email yesterday. Bo and Tubby know now. Or, they should.
This was posted this morning, and these guys are usually pretty plugged in on the Illinois recruiting scene. It was my understanding that Brust getting out of his LOI would be treated differently than a normal transfer, such that UW and Minnesota would not be restricted in regards to Brust accpeting a scholarship.
"Based on information that we received from Mike Weinstein, the head coach and CEO of the Rising Stars traveling team that Brust plays for, there are five schools that clearly stand out above the rest at this time. They are Boston College, the University Of Wisconsin, the University Of California, the University Of Minnesota and the Hawkeyes."
http://ilprepbullseye.com/page39.html
JohnnyGopher
04-17-2010, 11:05 AM
TJGopher looks to be right, Minnesota has cancelled there in home visit with Brust after talking it over with the compliance office. Not sure if other schools or the kids will try to fight this. Pretty crazy considering Wisconsin, MN, Northwestern, and illinois we're all going after Brust hard and Ohio St. and Indiana we're making a strong push for Cody Larson. Doesn't seem fair with the coaching change. got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
GophersOnTheRise
04-17-2010, 11:10 AM
TJGopher looks to be right, Minnesota has cancelled there in home visit with Brust after talking it over with the compliance office. Not sure if other schools or the kids will try to fight this. Pretty crazy considering Wisconsin, MN, Northwestern, and illinois we're all going after Brust hard and Ohio St. and Indiana we're making a strong push for Cody Larson. Doesn't seem fair with the coaching change. got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
Bad news?
z-stein
04-17-2010, 11:11 AM
got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
...that doesn't sound good
MNbricks
04-17-2010, 11:12 AM
Why the suspense? spill the beans...
JackiO
04-17-2010, 11:20 AM
I've already prepared myself mentally if Cory doesn't come here. It just seems too good to be true for some reason. I think he gave us some deep deep consideration because of his brother but in the end he will choose Nova or Texas. When we can finish higher than sixth in the Big Ten with Tubby we'll start making some noise.
MNbricks
04-17-2010, 11:21 AM
just got done reading this link..... i know its a week old but has some good insight.
http://basketballbuzz.ca/ncaa/is-cory-joseph-heading-to-the-golphers/
JohnnyGopher
04-17-2010, 11:30 AM
this is like a soap opera, just got text from Monter who just talked to AAU coach who said Big Ten is meeting today to discuss this issue, Wisconsin still going ahead with there visit to Brust, alot of coaches not happy with BT ruling so this may not be over.
Gopher Warrior
04-17-2010, 11:34 AM
Zags interviews Cory - posted 4/17/10 (http://www.zagsblog.com/)
beowulftom
04-17-2010, 11:44 AM
Any body know if the Jordan Brand classic is available online live-stream?
Stuck at computer....
Oh, and however today unfolds-
Go Gophers!
gophersfan
04-17-2010, 11:46 AM
Any body know if the Jordan Brand classic is available online live-stream?
Stuck at computer....
Oh, and however today unfolds-
Go Gophers!
should be available at espn3.com if your work allow that.
MNbricks
04-17-2010, 11:47 AM
Zags interviews Cory - posted 4/17/10 (http://www.zagsblog.com/)
Sound like the official decision wouldn't be coming anytime soon... (I guess not soon enough for me)
beowulftom
04-17-2010, 11:50 AM
should be available at espn3.com if your work allow that.
Thanks.
I'll keep the sound low...:).
gopherphan
04-17-2010, 11:55 AM
got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
Please elaborate!
JackiO
04-17-2010, 11:58 AM
Please elaborate!
we are all waiting!! :D
burton34
04-17-2010, 12:00 PM
got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
Are you a sadist? Please tell us!
Jackson5
04-17-2010, 12:04 PM
Sound like the official decision wouldn't be coming anytime soon... (I guess not soon enough for me)
Sounds like probably next week.
JohnnyGopher
04-17-2010, 12:11 PM
nothing earth shattering just some less than confident feelings from a good source, but as cory showed in that video interview, he gives away very little and is pretty safe in his comments so it's still alot of guessing from almost everybody.
beowulftom
04-17-2010, 12:11 PM
This is a naive question but can former players that are not alums (i.e. Rondo) help in the recruiting of a high school player?
gopherphan
04-17-2010, 12:19 PM
here's to still holding on to tee09 being right..haha
so in other words no one knows what cory is going to do and no one knows what brust is going to do. nothing has changed.
MinneMike
04-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Honestly, from an objective standpoint it seems likely that Cory will sign here. Let's look at the signs over the past few months:
-Cory has always stated that him and Devoe wanted to play together in college
-Mom Joseph loves MN and Tubby
-Devoe is thriving here
-Cory said he wants to go to a place where he feels comfortable
-Mo Walker, who didn't even list MN on his final list in February, suddenly had a change of heart in late March and had now signed a MN LOI
In my mind, the Mo Walker signing seems like the biggest sign. I don't know. Thoughts?
Don't forget, we have Little Canada, MN all ready for him
GoldInDirt
04-17-2010, 01:43 PM
One of my buddies would be among the "select few." Provided Cory wasn't BSing him, we should be pretty happy in a few hours.
Yes. 100% certain.
Two very confident posts. It's Tee versus JohnnyGopher, and unfortunately JohnnyGopher has a great track record.
jamiche
04-17-2010, 01:47 PM
Johnny is very thorough and accurate. I'm sure that he is waiting to verify any info he received before posting it.
GophersOnTheRise
04-17-2010, 01:56 PM
Two very confident posts. It's Tee versus JohnnyGopher, and unfortunately JohnnyGopher has a great track record.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but JohnnyGopher never said that we weren't going to get Cory Joseph.
The Big L
04-17-2010, 02:13 PM
Why some of you aren't ignoring Tee09's post is beyond me. I know we are all sweating this out and looking for any shred of hope but c'mon now.
GophersOnTheRise
04-17-2010, 02:16 PM
Why some of you aren't ignoring Tee09's post is beyond me. I know we are all sweating this out and looking for any shred of hope but c'mon now.
It's hard to put any stock into what he's saying, but I'd rather hear someone claim they know that he's coming here than claiming that he's not coming here. Not saying it's true, just saying it makes me a little more comfortable. I'd be slightly more nervous if he said that we weren't going to get him. Hopefully he announces tonight or sometime really soon so we can get all of this anticipation and uncertainty over with.
Winona Gopher
04-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Why some of you aren't ignoring Tee09's post is beyond me. I know we are all sweating this out and looking for any shred of hope but c'mon now.
The reason people are is because he doesnt have the track record that JohnnyGopher does. Johnny has been very accurate in his time being here, while Tee has only been here for a short while.
gopherphan
04-17-2010, 02:31 PM
Though it sounds liek a case of conflicting sources. JohnnyGopher has proven to be very knowledgeable in the past, and is generally correct, however, with the cory situation, hardly anyone (if that) knows what his decision is leaving it open for tee09 to be correct as well. I'd wager Johnny's sources are mainly with the team itself and its recruiters, and that doesnt necessarily overlap with the recruits themselves, especially in cory's case where he is holding his cards close to the chest. A close friend in this case (if said friend even exists) would probably be a much better source.
tl;dr: no one has any freaking clue and no one is really certain
One of my friends said they were in the UV elevator with Devoe last night..and now regrets not asking him if theres any news haha
howeda7
04-17-2010, 03:00 PM
One of my friends said they were in the UV elevator with Devoe last night..and now regrets not asking him if theres any news haha
What was Devoe's mood like? Did he seem happy? Upset? Did he blink anything in morse code? Get the details! :cool: J/K.
There's nothing to do but wait. Even the kid himself might change his mind 5 times between now and when he signs on the dotted line.
KerwinsPeachFuzz
04-17-2010, 04:52 PM
TJGopher looks to be right, Minnesota has cancelled there in home visit with Brust after talking it over with the compliance office. Not sure if other schools or the kids will try to fight this. Pretty crazy considering Wisconsin, MN, Northwestern, and illinois we're all going after Brust hard and Ohio St. and Indiana we're making a strong push for Cody Larson. Doesn't seem fair with the coaching change. got a mini cory update an hour ago:mad:
So does that make us one of the teams making a mad dash for Jon Loyd late in the game? I wouldn't mind Marcus being right about that one at all.
Donovan
04-17-2010, 04:52 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but JohnnyGopher never said that we weren't going to get Cory Joseph.
He's letting us down easy, when you post this :mad: symbol, it should be pretty obvious.
The Big L
04-17-2010, 06:17 PM
The reason people are is because he doesnt have the track record that JohnnyGopher does. Johnny has been very accurate in his time being here, while Tee has only been here for a short while.
??
Think you read my post incorrectly.
GophersOnTheRise
04-17-2010, 06:23 PM
He's letting us down easy, when you post this :mad: symbol, it should be pretty obvious.
He also said it was nothign earth shattering and it's a lot of guessing by almost everyone. We're just going to have to wait and see what happens.
MinneMike
04-17-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm waiting for someone to say they read Cory's underwear stains that he is coming to 'Sota.
NurumbiCongo
04-17-2010, 06:43 PM
I think corey joseph is the purest pg in hs basketball #randomthought.
http://twitter.com/thekidet - Evan Turner
Winona Gopher
04-17-2010, 06:59 PM
??
Think you read my post incorrectly.
That you are correct, but it still means the same in general haha
scools12
04-17-2010, 09:49 PM
Though it sounds liek a case of conflicting sources. JohnnyGopher has proven to be very knowledgeable in the past, and is generally correct, however, with the cory situation, hardly anyone (if that) knows what his decision is leaving it open for tee09 to be correct as well. I'd wager Johnny's sources are mainly with the team itself and its recruiters, and that doesnt necessarily overlap with the recruits themselves, especially in cory's case where he is holding his cards close to the chest. A close friend in this case (if said friend even exists) would probably be a much better source.
tl;dr: no one has any freaking clue and no one is really certain
One of my friends said they were in the UV elevator with Devoe last night..and now regrets not asking him if theres any news haha
so let me get this correct. since JohnnyGopher is correct most of the time, however this time it is not what you want to hear he may be wrong? And Tee09 is saying what you want to hear so he may be right?
What? I am confused.
gopherphan
04-17-2010, 10:00 PM
so let me get this correct. since JohnnyGopher is correct most of the time, however this time it is not what you want to hear he may be wrong? And Tee09 is saying what you want to hear so he may be right?
What? I am confused.
He's been right in the past about alot of team things, but in this particular case since info is so limited, it may be that tee09 has a source outside of Johnny's ring, but inside cory's
beowulftom
04-17-2010, 10:43 PM
Was Cory announcing tonight?
burton34
04-17-2010, 10:47 PM
Was Cory announcing tonight?
There was conjecture from the coach and others that he might announce tonight, but CJ seemed to quash that in his interview two days ago, saying that he had no timetable but it would be soon. My best guess is that he goes back home and sits down with Mom Joseph and then makes it official. Monday or Tuesday is my bet.
Gopher in Texas
04-18-2010, 04:28 AM
I hope he talks to his family and not his coach (Coach Peck was at the Jordan Brand Classic). In one of the interviews the coach mentioned Cory is a pleaser (a dig at him trying to please his family, IMO).
If he is waiting seems like the only thing left is to talk to family and see if Avery Bradley comes back.
forestlaker
04-18-2010, 06:12 AM
Has tee09 ever been wrong before?
burton34
04-18-2010, 08:25 AM
I think we all know Tee09 is the one spewing BS. Tee09 said Cory would announce last night and he didn't.
Gopher in Texas
04-18-2010, 08:50 AM
The Jordan Brand Classic announcers said several times that they were hopeful to get several of the uncommitted players to announce their choices. I would guess that Cory was a prime target as they discussed him at length. In the end, I think he was not ready. I like the idea of him going home and talking this over with his family (not just because it helps the Gophers chances).
Gopher in Texas
04-18-2010, 08:56 AM
Iowa AD "shame on us" if we did not communicate that the players let out of their LOI can not transfer to other Big Ten schools also "I don't want to have to compete with them" said with a smile (that's a winky smile ;))
http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/04/17/iowa-ad-discusses-basketball-transfer-issues
freshtrout
04-18-2010, 10:22 AM
Watched most of the Jordan Jam last night... The announcers kept talking about Cory & how he would be a great fit with Texas. Didn't hear anything about him playing here, with his bro etc. He played well IMO, but not at the level of both the Duke & Kentucky pt guard players for next year. He (like his brother) gets the ball stripped from behind and shows at times he is not aware of the defender coming from behind him. Small negative, can be corrected, hope he signs here.
NDGopher
04-18-2010, 12:20 PM
Watched most of the Jordan Jam last night... The announcers kept talking about Cory & how he would be a great fit with Texas. Didn't hear anything about him playing here, with his bro etc. He played well IMO, but not at the level of both the Duke & Kentucky pt guard players for next year. He (like his brother) gets the ball stripped from behind and shows at times he is not aware of the defender coming from behind him. Small negative, can be corrected, hope he signs here.
Comparing him to Irving and Knight just isn't fair...
freshtrout
04-18-2010, 01:00 PM
No, it's not, at this point. But that was just one game. He is their equal when playing D however.
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