Maresh and ?

[monaco]

Saw what appeared to be Maresh and Royston get in an altercation w/the police last night across the street from the Library. Hope that it wasn't anything serious. Don't know any details on what they were stopped for or what happened after they were stopped.

Hope I don't read about this in the newspapers in a day :mad:

[gophmeister]

I checked the Hennepin County Jail website and they're not in jail and there weren't any charges. It could be that the website hasn't updated. Check again tomorrow. It would be too bad, that's for sure.

[Sparlimb]

This would be strike two for Maresh? Don't recall people saying he was a hot head...

[froggopher]

Also hope there will not be any more suspensions or further sanctions against the team.

Do these football players ever wonder how much their fans support them? Want them to succeed?

Sheesh!

[Haugy#33]

Saw what appeared to be Maresh and Royston get in an altercation w/the police last night across the street from the Library. Hope that it wasn't anything serious. Don't know any details on what they were stopped for or what happened after they were stopped.

Hope I don't read about this in the newspapers in a day :mad:

Stop reading into this stuff!! They were lookin for their lost library cards!!!!:cool02:

[KoolAid]

Stop reading into this stuff!! They were lookin for their lost library cards!!!!:cool02:

I don't think THAT library has cards, but if they do, please direct me

[froggopher]

I think the above poster should have clarified which "library" he was talking about. The U of M Dinkytown library is kitty corner from The Library Bar & Restaurant.

Maybe they were at both places in one nite. HA.

[buddylee853]

Saw what appeared to be Maresh and Royston get in an altercation w/the police last night across the street from the Library. Hope that it wasn't anything serious. Don't know any details on what they were stopped for or what happened after they were stopped.

Hope I don't read about this in the newspapers in a day :mad:

What exactly did you see happen?

[Ron Johnson Super Fan]

This is one on the things I don't like about the interweb. Too easy for someone to throw out uncorroborated reports about people that are not verified as true. I'm not saying Monaco isn't telling the truth as I have no reason to think that he isn't. I just don't like that someone can throw unverified reports around and toss someone's reputation into the mud.

[monaco]

I was surprised this morning when I saw that this hadn't already been posted. I saw Maresh up against the building across the street from the Library (Bar and Grill) and I'm fairly certain the other person who was involved in the altercation was Kim Royston. Don't know what they did or even if they got charged with anything (I want to stress that point). There was about 4 squad cars on the street when all this was going down. AGAIN maybe this was just a slap on the wrist and no charges were filed. Time will tell

[ChemEGopher]

Really glad you could share this with us. You're really a big help to the program.

[Brew_recruit]

What a surprise Maresh in trouble again.

[DLguy]

One thing I want to point out that may be obvious to some, but not to others. Campuses tend to have a few groups of people that like to start crap with athletes whether it is due to jealousy of them, or just wanting to get attention. This happens regularly at bars. If this was the case here, the cops may have realized that and isolated the two football players to "protect" them from getting into a serious fight. In my days at school, I say this more than once. Athletes are targeted by some of the tools on campus who feel they are tougher. Just my thought on this situation. We shall see.

[RodentRampage]

Better to break up a fight before things get out of hand. There are thugs who like to start fights with athletes. Reminds me of thugs near military bases who resent the "basers", because they think they are taking "their" women. Usually these thugs couldn't get a date anyway.

[Costa Rican Gopher]

This would be strike two for Maresh? Don't recall people saying he was a hot head...

I believe you're mistaken and Maresh has no "strike one". He was seen watching a fight outside of a bar last year, not in a fight outside of a bar. I've seen this same thing posted here dozens of times now about Maresh and if ANYONE CAN CONFIRM he was involved in a fight last year outside a bar on campus PLEASE DO SO NOW, or else let's stop posting this misinformation over and over again.

[tundra]

I believe you're mistaken and Maresh has no "strike one". He was seen watching a fight outside of a bar last year, not in a fight outside of a bar. I've seen this same thing posted here dozens of times now about Maresh and if ANYONE CAN CONFIRM he was involved in a fight last year outside a bar on campus PLEASE DO SO NOW, or else let's stop posting this misinformation over and over again.

What CRG said.

[Brewscrew]

Where were you that you were able to tell that it was Maresh up against the wall? Across the street? Walking by? Driving by? In Iowa making this sh-t up?

[AhliBobwa]

PantheraHawk is over on espn pumping this story. Could just be another sad Hawkeye fabrication.

[Swaggerson]

Love it!

[RaT]

I believe you're mistaken and Maresh has no "strike one". He was seen watching a fight outside of a bar last year, not in a fight outside of a bar. I've seen this same thing posted here dozens of times now about Maresh and if ANYONE CAN CONFIRM he was involved in a fight last year outside a bar on campus PLEASE DO SO NOW, or else let's stop posting this misinformation over and over again.

I somehow feel as though CRG and I have something to talk about.

[monaco]

I was outside the Library on the sidewalk area and both of them were across 13th Avenue. Guessing no charges were filed since we've yet to hear anything, which is just fine w/me I'd like to see Maresh out on the field this year :clap:

[Sparlimb]

Really glad you could share this with us. You're really a big help to the program.

Umm, you should be saying that to the players involved if the allegation is proven true. We don't villify people for reporting what they see. Get a life.

[magpie]

If so many people here saw them, were they taken in the backs of the squads or not?

[goldygo4]

Does anyone know for sure it was Maresh and Royston? and magpie who else saw them all that's been written is that manaco saw em? Oh and CRG is correct Maresh has no strikes on him as he was watching(no in) a fight.

[Brew_recruit]

IMO Maresh seems like a thug

[goldygo4]

I was unaware that people who have watched a fight before are thugs.

[Costa Rican Gopher]

I now officially declare the Maresh in a fight outside a bar last year story dead once and for all.

[Sportsfan24]

Saw what appeared to be Maresh and Royston get in an altercation w/the police last night across the street from the Library. Hope that it wasn't anything serious. Don't know any details on what they were stopped for or what happened after they were stopped.

Hope I don't read about this in the newspapers in a day :mad:

Really? You actually posted this sh_t on the internet? Really? Do you know what altercation actually mean? So you actually saw both of them get into a heated argument with the police? That's what you're claiming you saw?

And you're certain enough of this to post it on the internet? To throw someones good name out there? Now don't hide behind "appeared." Nobody is gonna remember that, all they will remember is what you claimed you saw.

My man, you are wrong for this. When you float stuff like this out there it has ramifications. I wasn't going to respond but lots of folks read this stuff and my phone has been ringing all afternoon.

Yes I know what happened, no I'm not going to tell, yes you got it wrong and no I'm not angry.

In the future if you must write or post something make sure you got it right first.:cool02:

[bankonit]

I saw a black guy and a white guy arguing with each other or maybe not, it must have been Weber and Gray or not. Again it could have been nothing, I hope I'm wrong and don't read about it in the paper tomorrow. Based on this fallacy I think both of them are "thugs"

[bankonit]

As it turns out I was watching a re run of Miami Vice and it was Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas, not Adam and MarQuies. But this still counts as "strike one" for both of them

[tikited]

I saw a black guy and a white guy arguing with each other or maybe not, it must have been Weber and Gray or not. Again it could have been nothing, I hope I'm wrong and don't read about it in the paper tomorrow. Based on this fallacy I think both of them are "thugs"
As it turns out I was watching a re run of Miami Vice and it was Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas, not Adam and MarQuies. But this still counts as "strike one" for both of them

This doesn't happen often. Actually it hasn't ever happened, but I agree with you, and it was pretty funny.

[eker0016]

Really? You actually posted this sh_t on the internet? Really? Do you know what altercation actually mean? So you actually saw both of them get into a heated argument with the police? That's what you're claiming you saw?

And you're certain enough of this to post it on the internet? To throw someones good name out there? Now don't hide behind "appeared." Nobody is gonna remember that, all they will remember is what you claimed you saw.

My man, you are wrong for this. When you float stuff like this out there it has ramifications. I wasn't going to respond but lots of folks read this stuff and my phone has been ringing all afternoon.

Yes I know what happened, no I'm not going to tell, yes you got it wrong and no I'm not angry.

In the future if you must write or post something make sure you got it right first.:cool02:

Give the guy a break, he saw an event that was possibly a big deal involving two players very important to our program. Nobody should fault him for "spilling the beans" if it is true, it is the player's responsibility to stay clean. This is the point of a message board -- share banter, rumor and news.

[Sportsfan24]

Give the guy a break, he saw an event that was possibly a big deal involving two players very important to our program. Nobody should fault him for "spilling the beans" if it is true, it is the player's responsibility to stay clean. This is the point of a message board -- share banter, rumor and news.

Interesting. You want me to give the guy who posts incorrect information about student athletes on the web a break because you believe a board dedicated to Gopher sports should include rumors (incorrect or correct) about players? Tell me, how far are rumors allowed to go? Is any rumor off limit and who determines what that limit is?

You claim the board is suppose to be about rumors and banter yet you want me to "give the guy a break?" Oh I get it, you want to talk sh_t about folks but not be called on it. You want what your not willing to give the players; your behavior to not be commented on or challenged. My bad.:cool02:

[Section2]

Give the guy a break, he saw an event that was possibly a big deal involving two players very important to our program. Nobody should fault him for "spilling the beans" if it is true, it is the player's responsibility to stay clean. This is the point of a message board -- share banter, rumor and news.

He's not even sure what he saw. In that case he needs to STFU.

[TWeber]

Interesting. You want me to give the guy who posts incorrect information about student athletes on the web a break because you believe a board dedicated to Gopher sports should include rumors (incorrect or correct) about players? Tell me, how far are rumors allowed to go? Is any rumor off limit and who determines what that limit is?

You claim the board is suppose to be about rumors and banter yet you want me to "give the guy a break?" Oh I get it, you want to talk sh_t about folks but not be called on it. You want what your not willing to give the players; your behavior to not be commented on or challenged. My bad.:cool02:

In today's edition of the Star Tribune, it was reported that Maresh was cited for what amounts to Minor in Possession. Guess the rumor had some validity to it if by altercation you meant being detained by police. There was no mention of Royston in the blurb.

Looks like we can now officially say that Maresh has Strike One.

[betterdeadthanred]

In today's edition of the Star Tribune, it was reported that Maresh was cited for what amounts to Minor in Possession. Guess the rumor had some validity to it if by altercation you meant being detained by police. There was no mention of Royston in the blurb.

Looks like we can now officially say that Maresh has Strike One.

That's a tough break for him, I looked at his profile on Gophersports.com and he turns 21 on the 26th of this month.

[The Ghost of Bierman]

IMO Maresh seems like a thug

IMO YOU seem like a D-O-U-C-H-E :)

[PlayHosea]

In today's edition of the Star Tribune, it was reported that Maresh was cited for what amounts to Minor in Possession. Guess the rumor had some validity to it if by altercation you meant being detained by police. There was no mention of Royston in the blurb.

Looks like we can now officially say that Maresh has Strike One.It's buried in the Mbawke story if anyone wants to read it.

[highwayman]

maresh a no show at Saturday scrimmage...

[JackiO]

Monaco nice call. What do you say now, Costa Rican? Lets hear your defense, since you are so quick to defend him when there is any mention of Maresh and his horrible decision making.

[MNGophers11]

In today's edition of the Star Tribune, it was reported that Maresh was cited for what amounts to Minor in Possession. Guess the rumor had some validity to it if by altercation you meant being detained by police. There was no mention of Royston in the blurb.

Looks like we can now officially say that Maresh has Strike One.

The Strib story says March 28??

• Gophers linebacker Sam Maresh was among several people cited for consumption of alcohol by a minor, a misdemeanor, after Minneapolis police broke up a party near the University of Minnesota early on March 28.

Is this a separate issue from what happened on Thursday night ie strike 3?

[harrys ghost]

Monaco nice call. What do you say now, Costa Rican? Lets hear your defense, since you are so quick to defend him when there is any mention of Maresh and his horrible decision making.

Please explain how being cited for underaged drinking is the same as an "altercation with the police".

[MNGophers11]

Really? You actually posted this sh_t on the internet? Really? Do you know what altercation actually mean? So you actually saw both of them get into a heated argument with the police? That's what you're claiming you saw?

And you're certain enough of this to post it on the internet? To throw someones good name out there? Now don't hide behind "appeared." Nobody is gonna remember that, all they will remember is what you claimed you saw.

My man, you are wrong for this. When you float stuff like this out there it has ramifications. I wasn't going to respond but lots of folks read this stuff and my phone has been ringing all afternoon.

Yes I know what happened, no I'm not going to tell, yes you got it wrong and no I'm not angry.

In the future if you must write or post something make sure you got it right first.:cool02:

Now this is intelligent--I know something you don't, but I'm not telling and my story is right and your's is wrong...nah..nah..na-na..nah. "Altercation?" Do you prefer episode? It's all connotation. If Maresh was "against the wall" with "4 cop cars in the street" is was more than an episode. Thursday is a school night, right?? Spring training in session?? I for one am damn tired of these weekly run-ins with the police and then the apologists showing up to pooh-pooh it away...this isn't the damn SEC!

[MNGophers11]

Please explain how being cited for underaged drinking is the same as an "altercation with the police".
The "altercation" was thursday, April 10. The underage drinking cite was March 28 and who knows what in between. Poor Sam, always in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[drinks at Northpoint]

What great men you all are, passing such certain judgement on college students without any knowledge of the situation. I am certain you are all without any fault based on your reaction to an underage drinking ticket.

[Brew_recruit]

maresh a no show at Saturday scrimmage...

he missed for disciplinary reasons.

[ItsAllAboutTheU]

I dont understand how roystons name is being thrown out there for what seemed like him probably just trying to get sam in less trouble than he was already in, this is just dumb to be talking about in the first place anyway. Royston is a good kid, dont throw that crap out here unless youre certain

[eker0016]

Interesting. You want me to give the guy who posts incorrect information about student athletes on the web a break because you believe a board dedicated to Gopher sports should include rumors (incorrect or correct) about players? Tell me, how far are rumors allowed to go? Is any rumor off limit and who determines what that limit is?


He said he saw "what he believed to be" Maresh and possibly Royston get in an altercation with the police (which means a noisy argument). As it turns out, Maresh did indeed receive a minor consumption. Perhaps he incorrectly used the word "altercation," but perhaps Maresh was in a noisy argument with the cops as well.

I realize you have a vested interest in Kim and I agree that if he didn't positively identify Kim as another individual being cited, then he should not have made that conjecture.


You claim the board is suppose to be about rumors and banter yet you want me to "give the guy a break?" Oh I get it, you want to talk sh_t about folks but not be called on it. You want what your not willing to give the players; your behavior to not be commented on or challenged. My bad.:cool02:

I want you to give the guy a break because he posted a relevant piece of news he observed (although we agree the conjecture went over the line) and you absolutely lambast him for it. My wanting a message board to permit rumor and banter in no way is incongruent with my wanting a message board to be civil.

When Maresh walks down the street with a bottle of Jagermeister, he is openly inviting himself to be talked about. If I posted factually incorrect information on here, I would expect to be corrected for it as well. I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others.

[MNGophers11]

Do the apologists see a pattern with this guy yet?

Gophers football player Sam Maresh cited for alcohol consumption second time in two weeks. Can't be the brightest bulb on the tree. Sure you want to continue to back him on his B/S wrong place at the wrong time story about last year's fight?

http://www.twincities.com/gophersfootball/ci_14859789

[GoAUpher]

Do the apologists see a pattern with this guy yet?

Gophers football player Sam Maresh cited for alcohol consumption second time in two weeks. Can't be the brightest bulb on the tree. Sure you want to continue to back him on his B/S wrong place at the wrong time story about last year's fight?

http://www.twincities.com/gophersfootball/ci_14859789

You are new so I'll give you a heads up. Sportsfan is a relation of Royston. His comments should be read in that context. As far as I can see Royston has been charged with nothing and is not in trouble. Yet his name got tossed out anyway. That's what SF was getting heated for...his comments were not meant to be a big defense of Maresh.

[GoAUpher]

He said he saw "what he believed to be" Maresh and possibly Royston get in an altercation with the police (which means a noisy argument). As it turns out, Maresh did indeed receive a minor consumption. Perhaps he incorrectly used the word "altercation," but perhaps Maresh was in a noisy argument with the cops as well.

I realize you have a vested interest in Kim and I agree that if he didn't positively identify Kim as another individual being cited, then he should not have made that conjecture.



I want you to give the guy a break because he posted a relevant piece of news he observed (although we agree the conjecture went over the line) and you absolutely lambast him for it. My wanting a message board to permit rumor and banter in no way is incongruent with my wanting a message board to be civil.

When Maresh walks down the street with a bottle of Jagermeister, he is openly inviting himself to be talked about. If I posted factually incorrect information on here, I would expect to be corrected for it as well. I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others.

See post above. Sportsfan was responding to Royston's name getting tossed out there (with no basis it would seem), not Maresh's.

[JackiO]

I partied hard when I as in school, don't get me wrong. But if I was in Maresh's situation and I had the skill level to compete at a line backing position for a Big Ten team, especially with my background and what I could mean for Gopher football in the future, I would be handling myself in a completely different manner. The people that come on here and say college kids will be college kids and it's not a big deal. Give me a break.

The best of the best have their shi.t together, and you never see them in the news for good reason. They stay out of trouble and work their asses off. Someone needs to talk some sense into this kid because he clearly doesn't get it right now. End of rant.

[gopherbadgerman]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

[JackiO]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

Interesting.

[The Ghost of Bierman]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

guess what.........no one here really cares except the usual crew of flaming gossip queens.

imo some cops need to be taken to task from time to time. i have met quite a few hot head, cocky cops who make it there business to be jerks for no reason other than they like to be jerks. who is to say that is not what happened with sam. just cause the guy is your neighbor doesn't mean i trust what he says. i am sure in every cops mind it is ALWAYS the person being cited and/or arrested who was "giving folks a hard time" and it is NEVER the other way around......especially when they write up their "report".

[JackiO]

guess what.........no one here really cares except the usual crew of flaming gossip queens.

imo some cops need to be taken to task from time to time. i have met quite a few hot head, cocky cops who make it there business to be jerks for no reason other than they like to be jerks. who is to say that is not what happened with sam. just cause the guy is your neighbor doesn't mean i trust what he says. i am sure in every cops mind it is ALWAYS the person being cited and/or arrested who was "giving folks a hard time" and it is NEVER the other way around......especially when they write up their "report".

Dude he was walking down the street with a bottle of Jag in his hands. He had it coming.

[gopherbadgerman]

guess what.........no one here really cares except the usual crew of flaming gossip queens.

imo some cops need to be taken to task from time to time. i have met quite a few hot head, cocky cops who make it there business to be jerks for no reason other than they like to be jerks. who is to say that is not what happened with sam. just cause the guy is your neighbor doesn't mean i trust what he says. i am sure in every cops mind it is ALWAYS the person being cited and/or arrested who was "giving folks a hard time" and it is NEVER the other way around......especially when they write up their "report".

I could care less if he get 50 minors. I could give a rats ass about Sam Maresh. I was just adding something to the thread. Take a pill and go to bed.

[Donovan]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

Thanks. Obviously, this is your word we're going on, but based on your previous posts, I have no reason to doubt you. And when there is smoke... well, you know the rest. We're just seeing Sam's name pop up too much for this not to be taken seriously. Come on Sam, get it together and become a leader of this team.

[Sportsfan24]

Let me see?

Originally Posted by eker0016
He said he saw "what he believed to be" Maresh and possibly Royston get in an altercation with the police (which means a noisy argument). As it turns out, Maresh did indeed receive a minor consumption. Perhaps he incorrectly used the word "altercation," but perhaps Maresh was in a noisy argument with the cops as well. I realize you have a vested interest in Kim and I agree that if he didn't positively identify Kim as another individual being cited, then he should not have made that conjecture.

Perhaps he incorrectly used the word altercation? My man, he said Kim and Sam got into an altercation with the police. It did not happen, there is no perhaps. My relationship in no way clouds my judgment when it comes to folks by name erroneously posting in a public forum that someone got into an altercation with the police. Clear and simple, it was the wrong thing to do. And please allow me to add, I have also noticed that he has not rushed back here to correct his mistake nor have you commented on that. I guess when it comes to folks being responsible for their actions it only applies to football players.

I realize since you don't have a vested interest in the players you don't care what someone saids about them, even if it is untrue.;)

Originally Posted by eker0016
I want you to give the guy a break because he posted a relevant piece of news he observed (although we agree the conjecture went over the line) and you absolutely lambast him for it. My wanting a message board to permit rumor and banter in no way is incongruent with my wanting a message board to be civil.

When Maresh walks down the street with a bottle of Jagermeister, he is openly inviting himself to be talked about. If I posted factually incorrect information on here, I would expect to be corrected for it as well. I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others.

I guess you will take your "relevant" news regardless of how much collateral damage comes with it. Why are you okay with incorrect rumors demeaning someones charactor but you take issue with someone knowledgeable of the situation making a comment? Am I to assume you believe my response was worst than the baseless and incorrect accusation? To steal and modify a quote from you, If someone posts on a message board that an upper classmen who was only checking on his teammates welfare; got into an altercation with the police "is openly inviting himself to be talked about".

"I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others"

What? My man, I said I was not angry. Grasshopper, I guess you have been dying to use that dime store quote. Wow, I never realized the Royston men were so angry and into altercations with the police. Where is my NWA "straight out of Compton" album? I want to hear "fornicate the police!" :eek:

Oh and for the record, if the worst thing in life Sam does is get a ticket for having a beer as a minor 3 weeks from his 21 birthday and watch a fight, he should become a Saint. By comparison at the same age; I should be serving a life sentence in prison.:D

[Winona Gopher]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

Bingo. I went to HS with Maresh, same grade, if that kid was treated like every other kid in school no way he would be on the football team because of all the stuff he got away with, probably because his dad is one of the coaches. He got talent but the kid has some serious growing up issues. I am shocked he hasnt failed out of college yet.

[Brew_recruit]

I know many people who wrestled with him in HS. They have worked for me in summer jobs. Maresh is a hot head and a cocky dude, accoring to most of them. Take it for what it is worth... Also, my neighbor is a U of M cop and was involved all day friday talking to sergents regarding the incident on April 10th. He told me today that he would have been let go but he gave the cops a bad time and was therefore cited. Lots of cursing at the officers. I would not be suprised if he is suspended. My neighbor was annoyed with him and couldn't believe how bad his attitude was.

cool story, BUT anyone who knows real crime knows that U o M cops are not real cops and doesn't care much for what they say.

[MNGophers11]

Let me see?

Originally Posted by eker0016
He said he saw "what he believed to be" Maresh and possibly Royston get in an altercation with the police (which means a noisy argument). As it turns out, Maresh did indeed receive a minor consumption. Perhaps he incorrectly used the word "altercation," but perhaps Maresh was in a noisy argument with the cops as well. I realize you have a vested interest in Kim and I agree that if he didn't positively identify Kim as another individual being cited, then he should not have made that conjecture.

Perhaps he incorrectly used the word altercation? My man, he said Kim and Sam got into an altercation with the police. It did not happen, there is no perhaps. My relationship in no way clouds my judgment when it comes to folks by name erroneously posting in a public forum that someone got into an altercation with the police. Clear and simple, it was the wrong thing to do. And please allow me to add, I have also noticed that he has not rushed back here to correct his mistake nor have you commented on that. I guess when it comes to folks being responsible for their actions it only applies to football players.

I realize since you don't have a vested interest in the players you don't care what someone saids about them, even if it is untrue.;)

Originally Posted by eker0016
I want you to give the guy a break because he posted a relevant piece of news he observed (although we agree the conjecture went over the line) and you absolutely lambast him for it. My wanting a message board to permit rumor and banter in no way is incongruent with my wanting a message board to be civil.

When Maresh walks down the street with a bottle of Jagermeister, he is openly inviting himself to be talked about. If I posted factually incorrect information on here, I would expect to be corrected for it as well. I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others.

I guess you will take your "relevant" news regardless of how much collateral damage comes with it. Why are you okay with incorrect rumors demeaning someones charactor but you take issue with someone knowledgeable of the situation making a comment? Am I to assume you believe my response was worst than the baseless and incorrect accusation? To steal and modify a quote from you, If someone posts on a message board that an upper classmen who was only checking on his teammates welfare; got into an altercation with the police "is openly inviting himself to be talked about".

"I realize you were/are angry but anger in itself is not an excuse for unleashing that anger upon others"

What? My man, I said I was not angry. Grasshopper, I guess you have been dying to use that dime store quote. Wow, I never realized the Royston men were so angry and into altercations with the police. Where is my NWA "straight out of Compton" album? I want to hear "fornicate the police!" :eek:

Oh and for the record, if the worst thing in life Sam does is get a ticket for having a beer as a minor 3 weeks from his 21 birthday and watch a fight, he should become a Saint. By comparison at the same age; I should be serving a life sentence in prison.:D
Gee, nice try at playing the race card. What part of "possibly" don't you understand? "If" KR was present, someone should teach him the old saying "a man shall be judged by the company he keeps."

[MNBadgerGuy]

Really? You actually posted this sh_t on the internet? Really? Do you know what altercation actually mean? So you actually saw both of them get into a heated argument with the police? That's what you're claiming you saw?

And you're certain enough of this to post it on the internet? To throw someones good name out there? Now don't hide behind "appeared." Nobody is gonna remember that, all they will remember is what you claimed you saw.

My man, you are wrong for this. When you float stuff like this out there it has ramifications. I wasn't going to respond but lots of folks read this stuff and my phone has been ringing all afternoon.

Yes I know what happened, no I'm not going to tell, yes you got it wrong and no I'm not angry.

In the future if you must write or post something make sure you got it right first.:cool02:

Give me a break. Its the fricken internet. What do you want him to do get quotes from your boy Kim and the thug Maresh about what happened? I don't care what happened, if you are surrounded by 4 squad cars outside a bar it's nothing good.

And to CRG and the rest of the "Clear Sam Maresh's Name!" crowd, get over it. He has displayed thugish behavior before, and seems to have done so again recently. And I heard about this before it was posted on the Gopher Hole. I don't think its a good thing to be picked up by the cops walking down the street #$%faced with a bottle of Jag in your hand.

[goldygo4]

Do you really blame Sam if he's cocky? His older brothers were big football and wrestling stars, his cousins(the Massey's) were huge wrestling stars in Minnesota(Kyle even was the heavyweight for Wisconsin a couple years ago). So Sam comes in to high school with everyone around him expecting big things from him, He wins 3 state wrestling championships and is ranked in the top 250 nationally in football, honestly what person in his position wouldn't be cocky?

MNBadgerGuy do you have any evidence to back up your claims that Sam is a thug or are you just trying to stir the pot? The kid got an underage ticket 3 weeks before he's 21 and watched a fight last year, yeah that really sounds like a thug to me?? It's not like he's acting like the late 80's/early 90's Miami players robbing ppl and getting caught with marijuana and coke. I have a friend who's going to be playing basketball next year at UW-GB who is only 18 and he has more underage drinking tickets then Maresh does, so this really is no big deal.

[josh087]

I think we're missing the bigger picture here.

I'm not a doctor, but I'm fairly certain that heavy alcohol consumption is bad for the heart and can, among other things, cause high blood pressure.

I don't know whether he uses Alcohol heavily, but for Sam, who has survived open heart surgery and been given a second chance at life, I hope he stays away as much as possible from anything that can cause further damage to his internal system.

[Sportsfan24]

Gee, nice try at playing the race card. What part of "possibly" don't you understand? "If" KR was present, someone should teach him the old saying "a man shall be judged by the company he keeps."

Race is on your mind not mine. I have no idea how you made a race issue out of what I posted?

On second thought I do understand; you know what NWA is short for and you read into that more than I intended. I guess I can see that. Like I said, that was not my intent. I only mentioned the name so folks would get my F the police reference/joke.

You also missed my comment about KR happening upon the scene (he was coming from church after a long day visiting kids at the hospital) and checking on his teammate to see if he could help.:D

On a serious note, I find the term "race card" offensive. Racism is horrible thing and that term is usually used by racist (not you) to hide behind when they have said or done something racist.

Also KR was really just checking on his teammate in that unfortunate situation. There are plenty of other ways to judge a man in addition to the company he keeps. Three that come to mind or:
1. Does he show concern for his friend?
2. Does he make inaccurate acusations and then don't bother to apologize?
3. And my favorite; does he keep his friend from getting in trouble in the first place?

I would give him of score 1-1 and n/a.

[GopherLady]

You also missed my comment about KR happening upon the scene (he was coming from church after a long day visiting kids at the hospital) and checking on his teammate to see if he could help.:D



I think the question of how/if Royston was involved was just cleared up - 100%. For those of you that doubt Sportsfan24, the fact that he was never cited for anything, or brought up in any of the police documentation should also be proof.

I'm guessing that he put a lot of smiles on kid's faces in the hospital, so kudos to him!

P.S. MNGophers11 - the company that he keeps? It's his teammates, I would hope that he would check up on a teammate and make sure everything is okay every time.

[GopherJack]

All this speculation reminds me of my favorite bumper sticker:

"I saw Elvis making crop circles"

[Sportsfan24]

I think the question of how/if Royston was involved was just cleared up - 100%. For those of you that doubt Sportsfan24, the fact that he was never cited for anything, or brought up in any of the police documentation should also be proof.

I'm guessing that he put a lot of smiles on kid's faces in the hospital, so kudos to him!

P.S. MNGophers11 - the company that he keeps? It's his teammates, I would hope that he would check up on a teammate and make sure everything is okay every time.

Okay it's official! I suck at the sarcasm thing.

GopherLady you are so sweet but.... Kim was partying like the rest of them (for the most part he's a great kid but an angel he is not) I was joking about the church and hospital visit. The difference is he is old enough to drink (if he was drinking, I didn't ask...sometimes ignorance is bliss). You are correct, he was not arguing with the police nor was he involved in anyway. He was only checking on the welfare of his teammate. The police had no issue with him and he had none with them.

Inregard to Sam he is making mistakes like the rest of us did and do, the difference is he is doing it under the bubble of public scrutiny. It is not unfair for people to comment or take issue with his poor decisions, I would just hope folks keep it in perspective.

Okay that should put it to rest and I will stop trying to be funny.....who am I fooling I will always be a smarta$$.:D

[streetfighter]

Okay it's official! I suck at the sarcasm thing.

GopherLady you are so sweet but.... Kim was partying like the rest of them (for the most part he's a great kid but an angel he is not) I was joking about the church and hospital visit. The difference is he is old enough to drink (if he was drinking, I didn't ask...sometimes ignorance is bliss). You are correct, he was not arguing with the police nor was he involved in anyway. He was only checking on the welfare of his teammate. The police had no issue with him and he had none with them.

Inregard to Sam he is making mistakes like the rest of us did and do, the difference is he is doing it under the bubble of public scrutiny. It is not unfair for people to comment or take issue with his poor decisions, I would just hope folks keep it in perspective.

Okay that should put it to rest and I will stop trying to be funny.....who am I fooling I will always be a smarta$$.:D

I was kind of wondering who stays at the hospital until the wee hours of the morning :D

[GopherLady]

Okay it's official! I suck at the sarcasm thing.

GopherLady you are so sweet but.... Kim was partying like the rest of them (for the most part he's a great kid but an angel he is not) I was joking about the church and hospital visit. The difference is he is old enough to drink (if he was drinking, I didn't ask...sometimes ignorance is bliss). You are correct, he was not arguing with the police nor was he involved in anyway. He was only checking on the welfare of his teammate. The police had no issue with him and he had none with them.

Inregard to Sam he is making mistakes like the rest of us did and do, the difference is he is doing it under the bubble of public scrutiny. It is not unfair for people to comment or take issue with his poor decisions, I would just hope folks keep it in perspective.

Okay that should put it to rest and I will stop trying to be funny.....who am I fooling I will always be a smarta$$.:D

I feel stupid for not picking up on that - I just know the team does a lot of those apprearances - Saturday a few were at a Hope Kids event, that it seemed legit.

Next time, just clear up the rumor from the beginning - because what people speculate is almost always worse than the truth!

[streetfighter]

Inregard to Sam he is making mistakes like the rest of us did and do, the difference is he is doing it under the bubble of public scrutiny. It is not unfair for people to comment or take issue with his poor decisions, I would just hope folks keep it in perspective.


You make a fair point, but Maresh is certainly testing the limits of perspective. Here is my take:

One underage is unfortunate -- it happens to many people in college. It can be avoided, but not worth a harsh judgement. Two underages is just plain stupid. You have to be pretty dumb (even if you were over 21) to be drinking a bottle of Jag while walking down the street. Add in the fact that he got two underages in the four weeks before he turned 21 and that puts me over the top. It shows a complete lack of common sense/intelligence/maturity.

If he only had the one, oh well. It happens. But the circumstances seem to indicate that he has a lot of growing up to do and doesn't seem to care much.

[Sportsfan24]

You make a fair point, but Maresh is certainly testing the limits of perspective. Here is my take:

One underage is unfortunate -- it happens to many people in college. It can be avoided, but not worth a harsh judgement. Two underages is just plain stupid. You have to be pretty dumb (even if you were over 21) to be drinking a bottle of Jag while walking down the street. Add in the fact that he got two underages in the four weeks before he turned 21 and that puts me over the top. It shows a complete lack of common sense/intelligence/maturity.

If he only had the one, oh well. It happens. But the circumstances seem to indicate that he has a lot of growing up to do and doesn't seem to care much.

I can't argue with you at all. I tell my wife the word stupid and children are interchangeable. Have you ever had a child repeatedly bounce a baseball off the aluminum siding of you home; sit on your glass table (and eventually through) to watch TV; and my personal favorite, send 200 texts from her cell phone while the family is on vacation in South America... after you told her not to text because you were in South America?

In the news this morning, everyone was upset because the mother sent her adopted Russian child back to the adoption agency in Russia unaccompanied by an adult with a note attached. The note said the child was unruly and she decided to send him back after he threatened to burn down the family house.....with the family still in it. I'm not saying she was right but like Chris Rock said "I understand."

Sam is a good kid but I think he has stretched that about as far as it can go, it's time to grow up. Which I believe he will do.

[Unregistered User]

Have you ever had a child repeatedly bounce a baseball off the aluminum siding of you home; sit on your glass table (and eventually through) to watch TV; and my personal favorite, send 200 texts from her cell phone while the family is on vacation in South America... after you told her not to text because you were in South America?


Remove the bat
Move the table
Take away the phone

I don't blame the child for a lot of this.

[Sportsfan24]

Remove the bat
Move the table
Take away the phone

I don't blame the child for a lot of this.

For some stupid carries over to adulthood.

Who said anything about a bat?

You're assuming I didn't take them away, and even if I did how would that have prevented what happened? I guess you meant I should have never purchased a baseball for my son, had a glass table in the living room (I'm old school, kids aren't allowed in the "good" room) where they are not supposed to be because we have a family room. Why would I expect them to sit on the couch, love seat, chair or ottoman instead of the glass table? And I should have never purchased a cell phone for my teenage daughter. I guess you're right, who would ever do any of these things without expecting what happened to happen?:cool:

It's obvious you have no stupids...excuse me, children.:D

For the record I love my children infinity times infinity.:)

[Unregistered User]

For some stupid carries over to adulthood.

Who said anything about a bat?

You're assuming I didn't take them away, and even if I did how would that have prevented what happened? I guess you meant I should have never purchased a baseball for my son, had a glass table in the living room (I'm old school, kids aren't allowed in the "good" room) where they are not supposed to be because we have a family room. Why would I expect them to sit on the couch, love seat, chair or ottoman instead of the glass table? And I should have never purchased a cell phone for my teenage daughter. I guess you're right, who would ever do any of these things without expecting what happened to happen?:cool:

It's obvious you have no stupids...excuse me, children.:D

For the record I love my children infinity times infinity.:)


Oops...I read baseball and aluminum and it came into my head as an aluminum bat hitting the siding. If I had heard that ball against the house even once, they would know not to do it again or they lose the ball. If my boys (thanks for asking...2 by the way, 5 and 7 years) sat on a glass table, I would explain the inherent danger of that, have them sit where they should be sitting, and if they do it again, they lose the privilege of watching TV until they can play by the house rules. And I'll bet you've seen your daughter text about a million times, so if you saw her fiddling with her phone while out of the country, you probably would have a good idea of what she was doing.

Anyways...sorry for the terse reply. In my mind there is no right or wrong way for a lot of parenting, just decisions that you make as a parent. I always tell my boys that I have just one job in raising them: to get them to make good decisions. And rule #1 in our house is simply, have fun and try your best.

[Sportsfan24]

Oops...I read baseball and aluminum and it came into my head as an aluminum bat hitting the siding. If I had heard that ball against the house even once, they would know not to do it again or they lose the ball. If my boys (thanks for asking...2 by the way, 5 and 7 years) sat on a glass table, I would explain the inherent danger of that, have them sit where they should be sitting, and if they do it again, they lose the privilege of watching TV until they can play by the house rules. And I'll bet you've seen your daughter text about a million times, so if you saw her fiddling with her phone while out of the country, you probably would have a good idea of what she was doing.

Anyways...sorry for the terse reply. In my mind there is no right or wrong way for a lot of parenting, just decisions that you make as a parent. I always tell my boys that I have just one job in raising them: to get them to make good decisions. And rule #1 in our house is simply, have fun and try your best.

From the sound of it you seem to have a good handle on the whole parenting thing. As a seasoned veteran (boy 10, girl 15, son 22 and daughter 25) I want to hear back from you in 10 years. Right now you are in the Daddy knows everything and I want to do what's right stage. Next up is the you don't know anything and what can I get away with stage; followed by the I guess you were right I should have listened to you can you help me out of this mess stage.:D

You weren't terse you just have a strong opinion about having the answers for parenting....that's cool; I use to be just like you, 1 house siding, 1 glass table, 1 $2,000 cell phone bill and a whole bunch of other stuff ago.

Now I just thank god for beer and jazz music.

[RodentRampage]

I'm at the stage where my daughter realizes that the sun comes up and goes down without me doing it. When she was about 18 months, she would ask me to give her the sun back.

[Unregistered User]

Hell...I already know I don't know anything. I'm just trying to minimize damage.

This thread should be moved to the Daddy Forum. For the time being, I'm going to crack a beer and put on some Miles Davis. What? It's only 1:00? Crap...I'll wait another hour for the beer.