View Full Version : With a win over Purdue, are our Gophers a lock for The Tourney?
ShowinGoldyLove
03-12-2010, 11:38 PM
Yes or no?
Edited title so there's less confusion
From the Barn
03-12-2010, 11:39 PM
easily.
ShowinGoldyLove
03-12-2010, 11:40 PM
easily.
I'd say so too, yet there are a number of folks that don't think so surprisingly.
stocker08
03-12-2010, 11:41 PM
We already have much better wins than many of the other bubble teams. A win over Purdue and we should be a lock, no question.
EverTheSkeptic
03-12-2010, 11:42 PM
No question about it.
gopherweirdo
03-12-2010, 11:50 PM
I think we are in, but if they take Rhode Island, Miss State and/or Illinois over us and we all lose tomorrow, I will be furious.
GophersOnTheRise
03-12-2010, 11:57 PM
Regardless of what happens to other teams on the bubble and no matter how our resume compares to others we need 22 wins to get in.
gopherweirdo
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
Regardless of what happens to other teams on the bubble and no matter how our resume compares to others we need 22 wins to get in.
If they win tomorrow, they do not need to win the B10 tourney. No team with 5 wins agianst the rpi top 50, a .500 conference record and 21 wins will ever be left out of the dance.
GophersOnTheRise
03-13-2010, 12:03 AM
If they win tomorrow, they do not need to win the B10 tourney. No team with 5 wins agianst the rpi top 50, a .500 conference record and 21 wins will ever be left out of the dance.
I actually think we have a good chance as is. Sarcasm is hard to pick up on a message board, but I was basiclly just spewing what FOT has been stubbornly repeating since the Big Ten season started.
ShowinGoldyLove
03-13-2010, 12:05 AM
So far only Gopher Warrior and FoT have voted "No."
I'm just curious...b/c it's contrary to popular belief...what's the argument for the us not getting a bid with a win tomorrow?
GophersOnTheRise
03-13-2010, 12:11 AM
So far only Gopher Warrior and FoT have voted "No."
I'm just curious...b/c it's contrary to popular belief...what's the argument for the us not getting a bid with a win tomorrow?
Not sure. With 21 wins including victories over Butler, Ohio State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Purdue, and Illinois on the road I can't imagine us not getting in. Just read those wins out loud to yourself and try to say with a straight face that we wouldn't be a lock. I can't do it.
FishingMN
03-13-2010, 05:10 AM
No such thing as a "lock" with our resume unless we win it all. We "should" be in but all it would do is move us to the "last 4 in" instead of our current "last 4 out" status.
bankonit
03-13-2010, 06:49 AM
we are already in as long as we don't crap our pants against Purdue, we just need to lose close. But we will win.
ShowinGoldyLove
03-13-2010, 05:09 PM
I guess not as relevant b/c this was meant for today's Purdue game...yet even some on the board think we aren't a lock with that 30 pt drubbing of #6 Purdue?
Drex96
03-13-2010, 05:37 PM
I guess not as relevant b/c this was meant for today's Purdue game...yet even some on the board think we aren't a lock with that 30 pt drubbing of #6 Purdue?
#1. Strength of NC schedule (or lack there of)
#2. Losses to Michigan (2x), MSU, Miami, Indiana, Purdue, and Portland
BT tourney wins have been impressive, but everyone knows that tOSU, MSU and Purdue are NCAA tourney locks. They have little to gain by winning BT Tourney other than bragging rights and maybe a minor seed placement.
Bottom line is that the Gophers have to win the BT tourney to secure the automatic bid. Leaving it to the committee is a first out situation, even after today's trouncing of Purdue.
ShowinGoldyLove
03-13-2010, 05:42 PM
#1. Strength of NC schedule (or lack there of)
#2. Losses to Michigan (2x), MSU, Miami, Indiana, Purdue, and Portland
BT tourney wins have been impressive, but everyone knows that tOSU, MSU and Purdue are NCAA tourney locks. They have little to gain by winning BT Tourney other than bragging rights and maybe a minor seed placement.
Bottom line is that the Gophers have to win the BT tourney to secure the automatic bid. Leaving it to the committee is a first out situation, even after today's trouncing of Purdue.
Drex, you have to look at the other teams we're competing with. Despite our NC schedule and losses, our resume still looks much superior to nearly any of the other bubble teams.
Also, arguing that MSU, Purdue, etc. will somehow not attempt to play their best games because they were assured a NCAA spot is a suspect argument IMO when trying to justify our big wins.
rcpratt
03-13-2010, 06:33 PM
Drex, you have to look at the other teams we're competing with. Despite our NC schedule and losses, our resume still looks much superior to nearly any of the other bubble teams.
Also, arguing that MSU, Purdue, etc. will somehow not attempt to play their best games because they were assured a NCAA spot is a suspect argument IMO when trying to justify our big wins.
A win is a win. Izzo mentioned before the BTT tournament that MSU was taking it seriously, although that hadn't in the past. They were definitely giving it their all. It might have been hard to tell from watching the Boilers on the court today, but I'm pretty sure they were giving it their best effort as well. As pathetic as that is to believe.
Moses87
03-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Our RPI is still very weak and our win over Purdue is already be discounted by the pundits because of Hummel's absence.
Houston and Washington winning today along with Ohio over Akron could cost us a bid if we lost badly tomorrow.
jjgopher
03-13-2010, 06:40 PM
Our RPI is still very weak and our win over Purdue is already be discounted by the pundits because of Hummel's absence.
Houston and Washington winning today along with Ohio over Akron could cost us a bid if we lost badly tomorrow.
What in the blue hell does Ohio beating Akron have to do with us making the tourney? That just shows how ignorant and uneducated you are talking about our tourney chances
Moses87
03-13-2010, 06:58 PM
If Kent State had won the tourney they only get 1 bid....I believe Kent State gets an at large bid with an RPI of 47.
Moses87
03-13-2010, 06:58 PM
Another factor could be Richmond...if they steal the A-10 tourney over Temple, we could get screwed, especially if we lose badly to OSU.
rcpratt
03-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Another factor could be Richmond...if they steal the A-10 tourney over Temple, we could get screwed, especially if we lose badly to OSU.
Richmond was already in.
Winona Gopher
03-13-2010, 07:11 PM
If Kent State had won the tourney they only get 1 bid....I believe Kent State gets an at large bid with an RPI of 47.
Kent State is not making it as an at-large
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