The Myth of Minnesota Superiority

[athelstan]

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.

[Gold Vision]

Grow a pair. This is a Gopher board.

[MBAGuy]

:cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Mr. Samsonite]

good first post , I actually do enjoy all the culture here, and Minneapolis is one of my favorite cities, Iowa people are predominantly Cubs fans because their minor league team resides there, so they I dont completely understand your reasoning, and if youve ever been to a vikings or twins game then you'd realize just how much of a part they have in Minnesota, I understand you enjoy Iowa, but and there are redneck idiot fans everywhere, it just seems that a lot more come from Iowa and for those of us who have been in Iowa actually do think it is extremely boring and has very little to do....kind of like Nebraska, this mixed with all the things Iowa fans do just makes it way too easy to rip on your portly redneck fans

[Firejumper]

What irritates me are all the transplanted Iowans and Wisconsinites that reside in the Twin Cities, and their persistant feeling that their schools are superior to UofM. Why don't you all leave and go back to your states, where your University has apparently failed to be the public sector incubator for business and technology (to the point that you are unable to find employment there), and just leave us alone?

[PlayHosea]

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.Minnesota is superior, just for the simple fact that we know it's "drivel", not "dribble". I'll wager you wasted your entire evening on this garbage, I suggest you go to bed, you'll have to be up quite early to milk Bessie and Bossie in the morning.

[Brew_recruit]

it always makes me laugh when people claim that Iowa is even close to on par with Minnesota. There is a reason that all the Iowa graduates move to Minneapolis.

[Schnoodler]

I was shopping at the grocery store the other day and they had this cereal I had never tried. Honey bunches of oats with real peaches. Now it didn't sound so great but the price was right so I thought I'd try it. I mean two bucks, how can you go wrong. So I brought it home and tried it, ehh, it was ok but worth about two bucks. but what I was really shopping for was wheat chex. I love wheat chex. It's boring I know but I like it. Usually they're just too expensive so I don't buy them but this time of year they go on sale. Two bucks a pop, and so I load up. Now I don't know how long the shelf life is on the boxes so I really don't know how many boxes I could buy and store for later. So far in past years I've only bought ten boxes and the last one seemed all right. Maybe I'll try for twenty this year.

The real question though in my mind is how come I don't eat my absolute favorite very often. I love Kellog's Frosted Flakes, I'd say they're my favorite, but not just plain. I've got to slice a banana into the bowl to really set it off. It's yummy. but I might buy it like once a year. Why do you suppose that is? I don't know either. Curious things we do and don't do. Speaking of slicing bananas, I like to use the spoon to slice them. Just kind of scoop the slices right out of the peel. I think because it's one less utinsel. I bet that's why. I've been doing it that way for so long I don't really know why I do it that way.

Some times I think I should try a new type of cereal, which is why I grab things on sale. It forces me to try new things. Maybe that's why I like cheap women. But I digress. So when I go shopping there is usually a few things I must get, like say coffee filters. Speaking of, that's been like the only thing on my list the last three times I've gone shopping and each time I forget to buy them. I'm down to about a half a dozen. Maybe tomorrow. But I think I'm going shopping at Wall Mart with Doctor Don so maybe I'll wait until then if I don't lose my wallet first. But back to the point, I like shopping just for sales. It it's on sale and I think I'll eat it I buy it. Saves me all kinds of money and forces me to try new things. I don't suggest honey bunches of oats with real peaches though. It's Ok, but only on super sale.

[Firejumper]

Are you OK Schnoodler??

[Iceland12]

I was shopping at the grocery store the other day and they had this cereal I had never tried. Honey bunches of oats with real peaches. Now it didn't sound so great but the price was right so I thought I'd try it. I mean two bucks, how can you go wrong. So I brought it home and tried it, ehh, it was ok but worth about two bucks. but what I was really shopping for was wheat chex. I love wheat chex. It's boring I know but I like it. Usually they're just too expensive so I don't buy them but this time of year they go on sale. Two bucks a pop, and so I load up. Now I don't know how long the shelf life is on the boxes so I really don't know how many boxes I could buy and store for later. So far in past years I've only bought ten boxes and the last one seemed all right. Maybe I'll try for twenty this year.

The real question though in my mind is how come I don't eat my absolute favorite very often. I love Kellog's Frosted Flakes, I'd say they're my favorite, but not just plain. I've got to slice a banana into the bowl to really set it off. It's yummy. but I might buy it like once a year. Why do you suppose that is? I don't know either. Curious things we do and don't do. Speaking of slicing bananas, I like to use the spoon to slice them. Just kind of scoop the slices right out of the peel. I think because it's one less utinsel. I bet that's why. I've been doing it that way for so long I don't really know why I do it that way.

Some times I think I should try a new type of cereal, which is why I grab things on sale. It forces me to try new things. Maybe that's why I like cheap women. But I digress. So when I go shopping there is usually a few things I must get, like say coffee filters. Speaking of, that's been like the only thing on my list the last three times I've gone shopping and each time I forget to buy them. I'm down to about a half a dozen. Maybe tomorrow. But I think I'm going shopping at Wall Mart with Doctor Don so maybe I'll wait until then if I don't lose my wallet first. But back to the point, I like shopping just for sales. It it's on sale and I think I'll eat it I buy it. Saves me all kinds of money and forces me to try new things. I don't suggest honey bunches of oats with real peaches though. It's Ok, but only on super sale.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cool03::drink:

[Gold Vision]

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

That explains why there are only about 100 students at Carver Hawkeye tonight, Iowa is just to damn culturally diverse to attend the ball game.

[myleslong]

it always makes me laugh when people claim that Iowa is even close to on par with Minnesota. There is a reason that all the Iowa graduates move to Minneapolis.

Not all. There's a whole herd of them in the Chicago area. One can't ride the Red Line on the El without seeing that Fred Flinstone-esque black and gold logo hanging from balconies facing the tracks. My office administrator is one.

[MBAGuy]

Not all. There's a whole herd of them in the Chicago area. One can't ride the Red Line on the El without seeing that Fred Flinstone-esque black and gold logo hanging from balconies facing the tracks. My office administrator is one.

Awesome! Evidence that the enemy of my enemy truly is my friend! :D

[tikited]

I was shopping at the grocery store the other day and they had this cereal I had never tried. Honey bunches of oats with real peaches. Now it didn't sound so great but the price was right so I thought I'd try it. I mean two bucks, how can you go wrong. So I brought it home and tried it, ehh, it was ok but worth about two bucks. but what I was really shopping for was wheat chex. I love wheat chex. It's boring I know but I like it. Usually they're just too expensive so I don't buy them but this time of year they go on sale. Two bucks a pop, and so I load up. Now I don't know how long the shelf life is on the boxes so I really don't know how many boxes I could buy and store for later. So far in past years I've only bought ten boxes and the last one seemed all right. Maybe I'll try for twenty this year.

The real question though in my mind is how come I don't eat my absolute favorite very often. I love Kellog's Frosted Flakes, I'd say they're my favorite, but not just plain. I've got to slice a banana into the bowl to really set it off. It's yummy. but I might buy it like once a year. Why do you suppose that is? I don't know either. Curious things we do and don't do. Speaking of slicing bananas, I like to use the spoon to slice them. Just kind of scoop the slices right out of the peel. I think because it's one less utinsel. I bet that's why. I've been doing it that way for so long I don't really know why I do it that way.

Some times I think I should try a new type of cereal, which is why I grab things on sale. It forces me to try new things. Maybe that's why I like cheap women. But I digress. So when I go shopping there is usually a few things I must get, like say coffee filters. Speaking of, that's been like the only thing on my list the last three times I've gone shopping and each time I forget to buy them. I'm down to about a half a dozen. Maybe tomorrow. But I think I'm going shopping at Wall Mart with Doctor Don so maybe I'll wait until then if I don't lose my wallet first. But back to the point, I like shopping just for sales. It it's on sale and I think I'll eat it I buy it. Saves me all kinds of money and forces me to try new things. I don't suggest honey bunches of oats with real peaches though. It's Ok, but only on super sale.

I stick to Berry Berry Kix. It's my favorite, and I've been burned by other cereals before.

[Schnoodler]

I stick to Berry Berry Kix. It's my favorite, and I've been burned by other cereals before.

I think that's the real problem, my formative cereal years were prior to all the variations. I mean Kix was neat to have, except you didn't want to spill the box, they go everywhere. I never really got into the different kinds of kix. I imagine Berry Berry kix would be good. I think I'll look for them on sale and give it a go. Thanks for the tip.

[Swede]

Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin.

That's hawkeye-like. I thought Iowa was supposed to have good elementary schools?

[Schnoodler]

That's xxxxxxx. I thought Iowa was supposed to have good elementary schools?

We don't use that word on this site. You can replace it with hawkey like, or badgeresk. But no not that word.

[Swede]

good first post , I actually do enjoy all the culture here, and Minneapolis is one of my favorite cities, Iowa people are predominantly Cubs fans because their minor league team resides there, so they I dont completely understand your reasoning, and if youve ever been to a vikings or twins game then you'd realize just how much of a part they have in Minnesota, I understand you enjoy Iowa, but and there are redneck idiot fans everywhere, it just seems that a lot more come from Iowa and for those of us who have been in Iowa actually do think it is extremely boring and has very little to do....kind of like Nebraska, this mixed with all the things Iowa fans do just makes it way too easy to rip on your portly redneck fans

Just playing the devil's advocate here but I once heard that people that are bored or that can't find anything to do are really just boring people. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

[Swede]

We don't use that word on this site. You can replace it with hawkey like, or badgeresk. But no not that word.

Fixed.

[Bronko Nagurski Gopher]

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.

please son! minnesota has some large, hairy balls for your little ioweee mouth. move on you little pig-fucher you! :pig:

[Schnoodler]

Well done.

[monk10]

I was shopping at the grocery store the other day and they had this cereal I had never tried. Honey bunches of oats with real peaches. Now it didn't sound so great but the price was right so I thought I'd try it. I mean two bucks, how can you go wrong. So I brought it home and tried it, ehh, it was ok but worth about two bucks. but what I was really shopping for was wheat chex. I love wheat chex. It's boring I know but I like it. Usually they're just too expensive so I don't buy them but this time of year they go on sale. Two bucks a pop, and so I load up. Now I don't know how long the shelf life is on the boxes so I really don't know how many boxes I could buy and store for later. So far in past years I've only bought ten boxes and the last one seemed all right. Maybe I'll try for twenty this year.

The real question though in my mind is how come I don't eat my absolute favorite very often. I love Kellog's Frosted Flakes, I'd say they're my favorite, but not just plain. I've got to slice a banana into the bowl to really set it off. It's yummy. but I might buy it like once a year. Why do you suppose that is? I don't know either. Curious things we do and don't do. Speaking of slicing bananas, I like to use the spoon to slice them. Just kind of scoop the slices right out of the peel. I think because it's one less utinsel. I bet that's why. I've been doing it that way for so long I don't really know why I do it that way.

Some times I think I should try a new type of cereal, which is why I grab things on sale. It forces me to try new things. Maybe that's why I like cheap women. But I digress. So when I go shopping there is usually a few things I must get, like say coffee filters. Speaking of, that's been like the only thing on my list the last three times I've gone shopping and each time I forget to buy them. I'm down to about a half a dozen. Maybe tomorrow. But I think I'm going shopping at Wall Mart with Doctor Don so maybe I'll wait until then if I don't lose my wallet first. But back to the point, I like shopping just for sales. It it's on sale and I think I'll eat it I buy it. Saves me all kinds of money and forces me to try new things. I don't suggest honey bunches of oats with real peaches though. It's Ok, but only on super sale.

I totally agree. This is a conundrum. I would say my staple used to be Frosty Flakes. However it makes me think of college, and when I think of college I think how poor I was. I mean I did go to a great school, and a lot of people were jealous of me. Yet I was still poor. Not poor enough not to be able to digest 3 bowls of frosty flakes a day. However I was too poor to eat a banana. If you got lucky and ate your frosty flakes quickly, you could generally get another bowl in using the same milk, and of course save some cash.

However, now when I buy frosty flakes I feel like I can do better. I think to myself, how long must you relive your days when living in a sty was okay. Now when I walk down the isle I'm always drawn to the rich man's Pebbles. Only a man of wealth could confidently eat a cereal with so many colors and that would use so much milk with each bite. Then reality sits in, or maybe just a bunch of commercials, but you start buying Honey Nut cheerios. You start asking random people if they lowered their cholesterol. I sometimes like to brag, even though that isn't very Minnesota nice. I do feel guilty and then try to apologize and offer to share a bowl of frosty flakes over a nice afternoon of smurfs and spiderman cartoons. But mostly they say sorry I'm going to the Gutherie again. I was going to go to the Ordway, but St. Paul is so confusing with those drunken irish streets. I don't mind I guess since I was heading over to Stages to catch a show with my family. I, generally, have to watch two-three shows a week just to be able to walk to the water cooler and not be embarrassed that I can't talk about the latest understudy. In fact I was listening to KFAN and they were ripping the Guthrie. Something about how people just talk about going, but never do. I guess I don't know what they said, b/c I just felt bad for them that nobody pays attention to them, so I just turned to the station while I was going to the restroom to take a Reusse.

Anyways my frosty flakes are soggy. Ergo this thread kind of sucks now.

[bigtenchamps1899]

Not all. There's a whole herd of them in the Chicago area. One can't ride the Red Line on the El without seeing that Fred Flinstone-esque black and gold logo hanging from balconies facing the tracks. My office administrator is one.

seriously!?

i rode the red line almost every day for the last year and never saw ONE hawkeye fan, hat, shirt or lightsabre in that entire time.

maybe you were thinking thr brown line?

[EG#9]

I picture atheltstan sitting at his computer, with his lip quivering as he wrote this post.

I live in Des Moines, it's a decent place. It's certainly not Minneapolis/St.Paul. Everything closes early, there are no pro sports teams (although the ORIGNIAL Barnstormers when they played in the big leagues of Arena Football were fun), and the weather is virtually the same as the Twin Cities.

Enjoy having a better football program now. At some point, all the breaks you got this season will turn around and Hawkeye fans will spend their Sunday nights crying to Keith Murphy on Sports Sound Off once again.

[gophergrad]

I'm quickly going to take issue with two things.

First, moron mcgee here thinks Iowa has a better program and this is not an argument. Depending on what side of the state line you support you either think: A, Minnesota's six national championships and hundred years + of history make us a pretty good program, B you've only been alive or interested in the last 20 years. At the very least this is a debate.

Second, as a Phd student in the arts I take great offense to your bizarre claim that Gopher fans don't take in our great cultural events. I not only take in them all, I know the directors, curators and board members who run them. And you can polish a turd all you want but Des Moines has no Broadway quality theater.

You clearly have no life and spend it trolling around other teams boards, nice culture.

[Halsey Hall]

Schnoodler WTF

[MRJ]

Personally, I love it when visitors come over to our board, criticize the University and Minnesotans for some kind of elitist attitude, and then say things like "if it wasn't for needing another anti-slavery state, Minnesota would never have existed. It all would have been Wisconsin and Iowa."

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am looking forward to more enlightening revelations from our friends to the south. :cool:

[Schnoodler]

I totally agree. This is a conundrum. I would say my staple used to be Frosty Flakes. However it makes me think of college, and when I think of college I think how poor I was. I mean I did go to a great school, and a lot of people were jealous of me. Yet I was still poor. Not poor enough not to be able to digest 3 bowls of frosty flakes a day. However I was too poor to eat a banana. If you got lucky and ate your frosty flakes quickly, you could generally get another bowl in using the same milk, and of course save some cash.

However, now when I buy frosty flakes I feel like I can do better. I think to myself, how long must you relive your days when living in a sty was okay. Now when I walk down the isle I'm always drawn to the rich man's Pebbles. Only a man of wealth could confidently eat a cereal with so many colors and that would use so much milk with each bite. Then reality sits in, or maybe just a bunch of commercials, but you start buying Honey Nut cheerios. You start asking random people if they lowered their cholesterol. I sometimes like to brag, even though that isn't very Minnesota nice. I do feel guilty and then try to apologize and offer to share a bowl of frosty flakes over a nice afternoon of smurfs and spiderman cartoons. But mostly they say sorry I'm going to the Gutherie again. I was going to go to the Ordway, but St. Paul is so confusing with those drunken irish streets. I don't mind I guess since I was heading over to Stages to catch a show with my family. I, generally, have to watch two-three shows a week just to be able to walk to the water cooler and not be embarrassed that I can't talk about the latest understudy. In fact I was listening to KFAN and they were ripping the Guthrie. Something about how people just talk about going, but never do. I guess I don't know what they said, b/c I just felt bad for them that nobody pays attention to them, so I just turned to the station while I was going to the restroom to take a Reusse.

Anyways my frosty flakes are soggy. Ergo this thread kind of sucks now.

Yeah I know what you mean, I had the same random thoughts. I liked the part about reusing the milk. I can totally identify, but I really made an effort to marry just the right amount of milk with cereal. I only feel successful if my last bite of cereal is also my last drop of milk. I feel badly about myself if I fail.

[sonnygarcia]

1) I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines.

2) The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa.

1) :cheer:

2) Whatever you have to tell yourself there Chief

[Bronko Nagurski Gopher]

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.

ha! living in or visiting des moines, iowa by choice.......that is like saying: "hey, i am going to eagan or maple grove for the weekend". essentially it means.....BIG F-ING WHOOP! :rolleyes:

p.s. no offense to our eagan or maple grove gophers friends here on GH, but you know what i mean!

[monk10]

Yeah I know what you mean, I had the same random thoughts. I liked the part about reusing the milk. I can totally identify, but I really made an effort to marry just the right amount of milk with cereal. I only feel successful if my last bite of cereal is also my last drop of milk. I feel badly about myself if I fail.

My cereal is no longer my own, but just borrowed from my son until he gets to drink the sugared milk finally. I haven't found a way to explain how the sugar is stuffed into the cow to make the milk so sweet. Any ideas?

[oleboy41]

great thread is great

[Schnoodler]

My cereal is no longer my own, but just borrowed from my son until he gets to drink the sugared milk finally. I haven't found a way to explain how the sugar is stuffed into the cow to make the milk so sweet. Any ideas?

I hadn't thought about that. Good question, hopefully he doesn't ask until you find an answer. I had a similar thought about banana flavored milk. I don't know if they still sell it, but I always wondered if the cows had to eat alot of bananas or if they milked monkeys. I was hoping for the cows. But I never did find out for sure.

As to your original question I'm thinking it has something to do with gummy worms. I seem to recall something about that. Too much snacking, you'll generally find this to be a problem with younger milk cows. Perhaps they segregate this sugary milk just for cereal.

[monk10]

I sure hope our new cultured resident can explain how many gummy worms you can plant before you end up with a bunch of rif raff digging up your land. I hope we didn't scare him away with these simpleton concerns. We do have a lot of transplates from neighboring states. It is so hard to keep up with the Jones and their fancy pancy gingerbread homes.

[Ski U Master]

I think that's the real problem, my formative cereal years were prior to all the variations. I mean Kix was neat to have, except you didn't want to spill the box, they go everywhere. I never really got into the different kinds of kix. I imagine Berry Berry kix would be good. I think I'll look for them on sale and give it a go. Thanks for the tip.

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

[Ski U Master]

Yeah I know what you mean, I had the same random thoughts. I liked the part about reusing the milk. I can totally identify, but I really made an effort to marry just the right amount of milk with cereal. I only feel successful if my last bite of cereal is also my last drop of milk. I feel badly about myself if I fail.

I like to drink the sugary milk at the bottom of a bowl of cereal. Although I also strive for the perfect milk/cereal ratio but it seldom works out in the end.

[monk10]

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

I don't mean to sound Iowan but cheerios is something you do when you are like 9months old. You need to start hitting up the Guthrie and move on to Life.

[Schnoodler]

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

I kind of always liked nabisco shredded wheat. The old style, remember when you had to take one out and break it up. I thought that was neat. I like them because they were locally grown. I still like to see all the nabisco shredded wheat farms across the landscape with all those great big biscuits just sitting on the field waiting to be broken into little ones and packaged for the store.

[Goldmember]

Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more."

Popeye must have said that when he was bored off his ass after spending 5 minutes in Iowa.

[thestl]

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines.


haha, this sentence voids your whole argument. Theatre is the contrapositive of Iowa, you have failed here. And when you compare Minneapolis to Chicago, well, in my opinion, we're better than our counter-parts in some areas, and very competitive in others. Everyone knows that Iowa is filled with farms, and well, that's about it. Your comparative state, Nebraska, at least has Warren Buffet to save them.

But for you, no one is there. But hey, I'll give you this, if there ever is a zombie invasion, Iowa would definitely look like an attractive refuge.

[Bronko Nagurski Gopher]

I kind of always liked nabisco shredded wheat. The old style, remember when you had to take one out and break it up. I thought that was neat. I like them because they were locally grown. I still like to see all the nabisco shredded wheat farms across the landscape with all those great big biscuits just sitting on the field waiting to be broken into little ones and packaged for the store.

this has to be the best one yet. bravo! :clap:

[Schnoodler]

Thank you.

[Gophers507]

Minnesota is superior, just for the simple fact that we know it's "drivel", not "dribble". I'll wager you wasted your entire evening on this garbage, I suggest you go to bed, you'll have to be up quite early to milk Bessie and Bossie in the morning.

+1 this is great lol

[Studwell55]

nm

[tikited]

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

No one talks about my Kix that way!!:mad:

"People 'need' to stick to the basics" I think we can make the connection between cereal choice and communism if needed. I look at Berry Berry Kix in the same light as freedom. I like fruit, but I don't always have the real thing..hence the artificial fruit flavor. I choose to eat 'Red'. I choose to eat 'yellow'. That is America right there...the right to eat red and yellow.

[athelstan]

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

[tikited]

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

I thought this thread was about cereal?

[50PoundHead]

Schnoodler, your first entry on this thread is probably the best thing I've ever read on this board.

athelstan, Des Moines is nice. The Twin Cities are nice. Duluth is nice. I grew up in a small town in Minnesota in the 1960s and I'm sure that our slack-jawed yokels and Iowa's slack-jawed yokels are similar. Life wherever it is lived can be full of enjoyment. What's your point?

[Winnipegopher]

I've really rediscovered Raisin Bran. Sweet but substantial.

If I go for sugar, I go Captain Crunch. Problem is it tears up the roof of my mouth and then the coffee burns like hell. Complaints about pain fall on dead ears at the breakfast table AND at work.

[minngg]

Two posts and he can't stand no more. Funny stuff. If MN wasn't superior, he wouldn't care enough to post about it. Thanks for the Iowa comments on MN, they were hilarious.

[Handsome Pete]

Go back to your slop pail, only 8 hour hours till Old Country Buffet starts the early seating!

[Handsome Pete]

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

You have the typical country cousin mentality: why do I need the big city when all I need is right here? The problem is that the things you need probably amount to a bowl of shredded wheat and the USA today. For people who want more, there are large metropolitan areas like Minneapolis.

Your ridiculous argument is like me saying Minneapolis is as grand as New York City or London because we have food to eat and a movie theater.

EDIT: to stay on topic for the football board, I will also point out that Minnesota has 6 National Championships and Iowa has zero. Hope this helps.

[gopherguy05]

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.


In response I give you these FACTS, not opnions:

1.Minneapolis was the most literate city in the country in 2008 and St. Paul was the fourth most literate, according to a study by Central Connecticut State University. No Iowa cities on that list. http://web.ccsu.edu/AMLC08/overall_10.htm

2. Out of 50 cities, Minneapolis-St. Paul ranks seventh nationwide for “fun,” according to Bizjournal.com. Again..no Iowa cities on the list. http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/138.html

3. 2008 US Sustainable Cities rankings: Minneapolis #7. Iowa cities....unlisted http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-rankings/overall-rankings

4.Thedailybeast.com- America's smartest Cities 2008. #4- Minneapolis-St. Paul. Iowa?? MIA
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-04/americas-smartest-cities---from-first-to-worst/?cid=bs:archive9#gallery=787;page=1

5.Travel and leisure.com. America's favorite cities list. Theater rankings- Minneapolis- #3 behind New York and Chicago....Iowa...once again missing... http://www.travelandleisure.com/afc/2009/category/13/subcategory/69/

6. America's health rankings. Minnesota- 6th Healthiest State. Iowa- 15.
Prevelence of Obesity. Minnesota ranked 13th best. Iowa....26th.
Occupational Fatalities- Minnesota...#1 safest...Iowa...37th. Damn hog farming be killing people..
Just a few more to wrap up...you are going to like these:

You're thinking, well Minneapolis is the big bad city, of course its going to have some advantages, but Iowa is small town people...we are good, polite, law abiding people...
Air Pollution: Minnesota 13th best. Iowa 22...
Cardiovascular deaths: Minnesota- least deaths in nation, Iowa= 23
and my favorite:
Violent Crime: Minnesota 13th safest. Iowa 17th.
http://www.americashealthrankings.org/statecompare/2009/IA/MN.aspx

I rest my case your honor....Minnesota is better then Iowa.

[Tubtastic]

Well done gopherguy. I like Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

[dpodoll68]

I hate to break up the cereal orgy, but as you know, I just can't help myself.


More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board...ad nauseum.

Ha. "Dribble." Ha. "Ad nauseum."


Iowa has a better program than you do

Six national championships versus zero, and 18 Big Ten championships versus 11 would tend to disagree with you. Not to mention that pesky little 59-41 head-to-head record. This, of course, means that Iowa could win every single game against Minnesota from now through 2025, and still have fewer wins that Minnesota head-to-head. That's gotta hurt.

Iowa has a better team than Minnesota, but not a better program. Not even remotely in the vicinity of the ballpark of close.


Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players.

Blah, blah, blah I'm angry because I have to drive 6 hours to watch sports played at its highest level.


I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not even from Minnesota, but rather South Dakota, and there was a reason I moved here. I love my home state, but just like Iowa, it is an economic and cultural wasteland. There are a ton of things I can get here that I can't get in the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, or Wisconsin. And you know it. And that's the reason why 9/10 young people in those states move to Minnesota or Illinois, either for college or immediately after it.

Also, it's Æthelstan. But I'm not surprised that they misinformed you about English history in Iowa's esteemed educational system.:rolleyes:

[athelstan]

Once again, you are missing the point, but there is no good reason to keep repeating what I've said before. I can't comment on South Dakota because I have never lived there. When you say that it is an economic wasteland, I will have to defer to your judgement. I think that what you are really saying, however is that a very large metro area provides economic opportunities which are not present in rural America, which is suffering in every state.

The fact is, however, that most people living in the twin cities live no better lives than most people living in a smaller city like Des Moines. It is not about where you live, it is about taking advantage of the opportunities that exist where you live. I would be interested to know what % of Minnesota people regularly participate in "cultural activities." For all I know, they might as well live in Sioux Falls, which is a very nice city by the way.

I have no problem if you want to brag about what can be measured; it is the moronic stereotypes that I object to. One measurable which is indisputable, however is that Iowa football has been superior to Minnesota football for about 30 years. If you want to count what happened B.C. go for it. National championships have always been subjective, even in the era of the B.C.S. As I recall, the last time that Minnesota won one, they took the vote before the bowl game, which Minnesota lost. As for Iowa not having one, there is 1958 in which the title was a split decision with L.S.U., but that means about as much as the one you won in 1960. Absolutely nothing. Since 1979, Iowa has won five Big Ten titles, gone to three Rose Bowls and one Orange Bowl (which should have been a Rose Bowl except for the B.C.S.). I am not saying that that makes Iowa an elite national power. But it is a little better by far from what you have done.

As for Saturday, good luck, and may the best team win. I am still not convinced that it will be Iowa, as I have been to every home game this year, and have yet to leave the stadium with a good feeling about what I have seen.

[gophergrad]

It is not about where you live, it is about taking advantage of the opportunities that exist where you live. I would be interested to know what % of Minnesota people regularly participate in "cultural activities." For all I know, they might as well live in Sioux Falls, which is a very nice city by the way.


You aren't grasping why major cultural centers are in large metropolitan areas. It's because a lot of people go to them. We could have put the Guthrie or the Minneapolis Institute of Arts in Red Wing MN (nice city by the way) but then not nearly as many people would go to the Guthrie and we'd have to change the name of the MIA. I have no idea what the percentage of Minnesotans regularly go to arts things, but the overall number of people doing those things is higher here than it ever will be in a rural area.

And just to go in a slightly different direction. Since we began the Floyd of Rosedale in 1935 Minnesota's won the pig 6 more times than Iowa. Add that to the 6 national titles versus your half a one and I'm pretty happy with my program overall.

Gotta be honest guys, I'm not really a cereal fan. I like to go out for breakfast (before attending a cultural event) for pancakes or waffles.

[monk10]

gophergrad that is kind of divisive language that splits us gopher fans. When you try to compare eggs to a delectable choice like Apple Jacks, that is when people start question your ability to cheer for a great tradition like the U.

The edit button is there. Make the right choice.

[dpodoll68]

As I recall, the last time that Minnesota won one, they took the vote before the bowl game, which Minnesota lost. As for Iowa not having one, there is 1958 in which the title was a split decision with L.S.U., but that means about as much as the one you won in 1960. Absolutely nothing.

Why do people keep bringing that up like it is relevant? It's not like in the fall of 1960, they suddenly decided to vote before the bowl games to change things up. That's the way it had always been done - FOR 24 YEARS. But Minnesota's is meaningless, because they won the vote fair and square like everyone before and after them (until 1968)? Gotcha.

And to call Minnesota's 1960 national championship even remotely equivalent to Iowa's 1958 Grantland Rice Trophy is so absurd it's ridiculous. The AP has been the arbiter or co-arbiter of the consensus national championship for 73 years. No one outside of the FWAA cares about the Grantland Rice Award. I think it's pretty interesting (and telling) that the University of Iowa itself has never came out and commented either way on its number of national championships. That way, their fans can keep pretending they have one.

[Khaliq]

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.Didn't read this.

[Schnoodler]

I thought this thread was about cereal?

I think it just morphed into a thread about cereal. I think the original intent of the thread as near as I could tell was nonsensical prose. I felt up to the challenge, and think I captured the spirit.

[DiehardGopher]

The best argument to counter the whole "Iowa is just as good as Minnesota" thing, is the fact that Iowa does not have reciprocity with Minnesota? I wonder why that is....it couldn't possibly be to discourage High School graduates of Iowa (the few that don't drop out or get pregnant) from going to a good university like the University of Minnesota by forcing them to pay over twice the tuition costs. Good try, Iowa.

[bassy123]

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[GophersInIowa]

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

I think you're taking a lot of this too serious. Iowa is one of our biggest rival and we're playing them this week. People are going to make fun of Iowa (or any other rival). It's what we do. I love my job down here and I enjoy who I work with. Overall, my time here has been a good experience. However, I still make fun of Iowa (the teams, the people, and the state as a whole). And my friends and co-workers do the same about MN. It's what rivalries are all about.

Des Moines is a nice city. But I know many people who travel all the time to the Twin Cities, Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City because there is more there.

[Khaliq]

athelstan GIA is being nice to you. We literally think of Iowa as a third world country.

He is there doing mission work. Teaching your people how to dig wells and how to handle basic sanitary care.

[GophersInIowa]

athelstan GIA is being nice to you. We literally think of Iowa as a third world country.

He is there doing mission work. Teaching your people how to dig wells and how to handle basic sanitary care.

To be specific, I'm down here installing bathtubs and showers for people who don't have them in their house. I'll never run out of business.

[GoldInDirt]

Oh's is the best cereal. We make special trips to buy it as it's only sold at SuperTarget and Rainbow these days.

Not to divert a good thread about cereal, but we also go out of our way to buy Newman O's (cookies and especially the very hard to find hint-a-mint only sold at Lunds, organic stores and possibly still SuperTarget). And buy the FigNewmans, they're fantastic and low fat.

[Schnoodler]

Oh's is the best cereal. We make special trips to buy it as it's only sold at SuperTarget and Rainbow these days.

Not to divert a good thread about cereal, but we also go out of our way to buy Newman O's (cookies and especially the very hard to find hint-a-mint only sold at Lunds, organic stores and possibly still SuperTarget). And buy the FigNewmans, they're fantastic and low fat.

I love cookies, good tip. If the Iowans want to start another nonsense rambling prose thread I'll go with cookies I think. Good call.

[Goldmember]

athelstan GIA is being nice to you. We literally think of Iowa as a third world country.

He is there doing mission work. Teaching your people how to dig wells and how to handle basic sanitary care.

:clap:Best post ever.

[STPGopher]

gophergrad that is kind of divisive language that splits us gopher fans. When you try to compare eggs to a delectable choice like Apple Jacks, that is when people start question your ability to cheer for a great tradition like the U.

The edit button is there. Make the right choice.

Yeah, How could he pick oatmeal in the land of General Mills. I bet he's never been to Cedar Rapids.....The city of five smells....well five industrial anyway.:D

BTW Schnoodler Would get post of the week from me. That is if we can nominate a reply within a post.

[hyaluronic]

I love cookies, good tip. If the Iowans want to start another nonsense rambling prose thread I'll go with cookies I think. Good call.

Do not compromise the integrity of this thread. I rather enjoyed Cookie Crisp in my younger years.

[gophergrad]

gophergrad that is kind of divisive language that splits us gopher fans. When you try to compare eggs to a delectable choice like Apple Jacks, that is when people start question your ability to cheer for a great tradition like the U.

The edit button is there. Make the right choice.

I took oatmeal out, everyone knows that was a lie, nobody likes oatmeal.

[gophergrad]

Yeah, How could he pick oatmeal in the land of General Mills. I bet he's never been to Cedar Rapids.....The city of five smells....well five industrial anyway.:D

BTW Schnoodler Would get post of the week from me. That is if we can nominate a reply within a post.

Is Cedar Rapids anything like Northfield? Good god that city smells like malt o meal. Gross.

[Sam]

Seriously athelstan?

I don't really get into the discussion about which state is better but I have to point a weekend I had last week. Where can I check out Solid Gold, one of Mpls' great local bands playing at First Ave, a Minneapolis institution, on Friday night, attend a college football game, Gophs against SDSU, on Saturday morning, go see Jerry Seinfeld on Saturday night at the Orpheum, I'm a contributor to the Hennepin County Theatre Trust, and then attend an NFL football game on Sunday, Vikes against the Lions? This doesn't include the drinks and meals i had at some great restaurants and bars.

This did make a big dent in my wallet, but I didn't have to leave the city. All of this cannot be regularly found in many cities let alone Des Moines.

Quality of life is subjective but I do believe mine is higher than the average 24 year old's in Des Moines.

[MilitaryGopher]

I am just offended that he thinks we want to be like Chicago!?!? Who the heck in their right minds wants to be like that dirtbag city. Horendous crime, rampant corruption and horrendous traffic. No, if the Twin Cities gets even close to being like Chicago I for one will be packing my bags and moving elsewhere.

[STPGopher]

Is Cedar Rapids anything like Northfield? Good god that city smells like malt o meal. Gross.

Worse. Mix Peanut Butter and Berry (flavored) scented Captain Crunch with oatmeal and two sileage like ADM smells and you have Cedar Rapids.

[athelstan]

Well Sam, that certainly was an impressive weekend. Since you want to drop names, I'll play. The closest that I have come to that was going to a Paul McCartney concert on a thursday night, and then driving to Iowa City for the Hawkeye game that weekend. Of course, I'm sure that you are aware that we don't have an N.F.L. team in Iowa, but if I cared, I could drive to Kansas City, which would be no more of a drive for me than someone from western Minnesota who wanted to go to a Vikings game. The fact that they are called the Kansas City Chiefs would bother me not one bit, because most, if any of the players are not from there anyway. Get it! I have, on more than one occasion, attended a Big Ten game in Iowa City and a Big Twelve game in Ames that night, which I'm pretty sure that you couldn't do. As for Jerry Seinfeld, I've had the opportunity to see him in Des Moines, but took a pass.

Once again, if we could return to the point of this whole topic, some arrogant Minnesotans seem to have an obsession with putting down and expressing hatred for Iowa. I repeat what I said before. It is provincial and childish. After reading most of the responses to this topic, I rest my case. If you really want us poor folks down here to buy in to your level of urban sophistication, you shouldn't have to keep telling us how sophisticated that you are. Meanwhile, most of us down here are doing just fine.

[RodentRampage]

Is Cedar Rapids anything like Northfield? Good god that city smells like malt o meal. Gross.

Northfield smells great! I spent the weekend in Northfield with my wife back in January. We were walking down the street and we could smell what seemed like fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies, so we tried to figure out what store had them. Finally we figured out that it was from the Malt-O-Meal plant.

Minnesota is so cool that our industrial waste smells like chocolate chip cookies! :D

[Sam]

Athelstan, my point isn't your access to entertainment but vicinity. You point out that you can drive to iowa city and kansas city and ames, which would be quite a road trip. I didn't even have to leave my municipality to go to these events. My point is moot, but I enjoy living here, you enjoy living there which I'm glad, let's just leave it at that.

[Khaliq]

Well Sam, that certainly was an impressive weekend. Since you want to drop names, I'll play. The closest that I have come to that was going to a Paul McCartney concert on a thursday night, and then driving to Iowa City for the Hawkeye game that weekend. Of course, I'm sure that you are aware that we don't have an N.F.L. team in Iowa, but if I cared, I could drive to Kansas City, which would be no more of a drive for me than someone from western Minnesota who wanted to go to a Vikings game. The fact that they are called the Kansas City Chiefs would bother me not one bit, because most, if any of the players are not from there anyway. Get it! I have, on more than one occasion, attended a Big Ten game in Iowa City and a Big Twelve game in Ames that night, which I'm pretty sure that you couldn't do. As for Jerry Seinfeld, I've had the opportunity to see him in Des Moines, but took a pass.

Once again, if we could return to the point of this whole topic, some arrogant Minnesotans seem to have an obsession with putting down and expressing hatred for Iowa. I repeat what I said before. It is provincial and childish. After reading most of the responses to this topic, I rest my case. If you really want us poor folks down here to buy in to your level of urban sophistication, you shouldn't have to keep telling us how sophisticated that you are. Meanwhile, most of us down here are doing just fine.How long did you have to crank the generator to fire this post out?

[monk10]

Well Sam, that certainly was an impressive weekend. Since you want to drop names, I'll play. The closest that I have come to that was going to a Paul McCartney concert on a thursday night, and then driving to Iowa City for the Hawkeye game that weekend. Of course, I'm sure that you are aware that we don't have an N.F.L. team in Iowa, but if I cared, I could drive to Kansas City, which would be no more of a drive for me than someone from western Minnesota who wanted to go to a Vikings game. The fact that they are called the Kansas City Chiefs would bother me not one bit, because most, if any of the players are not from there anyway. Get it! I have, on more than one occasion, attended a Big Ten game in Iowa City and a Big Twelve game in Ames that night, which I'm pretty sure that you couldn't do. As for Jerry Seinfeld, I've had the opportunity to see him in Des Moines, but took a pass.

Once again, if we could return to the point of this whole topic, some arrogant Minnesotans seem to have an obsession with putting down and expressing hatred for Iowa. I repeat what I said before. It is provincial and childish. After reading most of the responses to this topic, I rest my case. If you really want us poor folks down here to buy in to your level of urban sophistication, you shouldn't have to keep telling us how sophisticated that you are. Meanwhile, most of us down here are doing just fine.

That Schnoodler ruined this thread. :D

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/funny-pictures-cat-drinks-cereal-milk.jpg

[Schnoodler]

I feel so ashamed.

[monk10]

I feel so ashamed.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/teh-shame.jpg

[RodentRampage]

Once again, if we could return to the point of this whole topic, some arrogant Minnesotans seem to have an obsession with putting down and expressing hatred for Iowa. I repeat what I said before. It is provincial and childish. After reading most of the responses to this topic, I rest my case. If you really want us poor folks down here to buy in to your level of urban sophistication, you shouldn't have to keep telling us how sophisticated that you are. Meanwhile, most of us down here are doing just fine.

I'd rest my case and cut my losses if my case was as flimsy as yours. What is childish is you're "stop picking on us, it's not nice!" Grown ups can handle it, try acting like one.

[Sour1729]

Unfortunately, I grew up in Iowa. And I can tell you that it sucks.

[JackiO]

<img src=http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/americanpi/DysPhunctional-Photos-2.jpg?t=1258571564>

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[Vail_Hawk]

This thread is just comical. I feel bad for those who feel its buildings around you and not the people that make life special. It seems many Gopher alumni seem to stay in Minnesota and not get any life experiences and outside perspectives living elsewhere. I like the Twin Cities but really don't see a major difference between it and Des Moines as can't many not from the Midwest. The Pro Sports teams debate is comical as I've gone to two Viking games this year using my uncle from Iowa's season tickets. Probably more than most of you and I live in Vail, CO. I personally couldn't live in either state because of the harsh winters and would rather live my life on a vacation.

[MBAGuy]

This thread is just comical. I feel bad for those who feel its buildings around you and not the people that make life special. It seems many Gopher alumni seem to stay in Minnesota and not get any life experiences and outside perspectives living elsewhere. I like the Twin Cities but really don't see a major difference between it and Des Moines as can't many not from the Midwest. The Pro Sports teams debate is comical as I've gone to two Viking games this year using my uncle from Iowa's season tickets. Probably more than most of you and I live in Vail, CO. I personally couldn't live in either state because of the harsh winters and would rather live my life on a vacation.

Speaking of comical....

[MRJ]

Speaking of comical....

I'm with you on that one. I'm still trying to figure out what "can't not many from the midwest" means. :confused::confused:

[MBAGuy]

I'm with you on that one. I'm still trying to figure out what "can't not many from the midwest" means. :confused::confused:

For people not affiliated with Iowa, that would be called a double negative. :)