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jrb27
11-14-2009, 12:31 PM
I'm not sticking up for him but everyone need to relax a little it's not like brew came in here and took over a top ranked football team he was handed the keys to the titanic give him a damn shot there's not many people that could take this team and in 3 years be contending for a championship

JackiO
11-14-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm not sticking up for him but everyone need to relax a little it's not like brew came in here and took over a top ranked football team he was handed the keys to the titanic give him a damn shot there's not many people that could take this team and in 3 years be contending for a championship

In three years we should be handling a d1-AA team.

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 12:35 PM
Brewster is not showing any signs of being a real head coach.......

jrb27
11-14-2009, 12:35 PM
Tell that to the ducks who lost to Stanford last week *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# happens. In case you haven't seen them before sdsu is not a bad football team

Maximus
11-14-2009, 12:37 PM
Tell that to the ducks who lost to Stanford last week *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# happens. In case you haven't seen them before sdsu is not a bad football team

Stanford is ranked 25th in the country.....FOR SHAME OREGON!!! FOR SHAME!!!!

JackiO
11-14-2009, 12:39 PM
Stanford is ranked 25th in the country.....FOR SHAME OREGON!!! FOR SHAME!!!!

LOL

Doogie
11-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Tell that to the ducks who lost to Stanford last week *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# happens. In case you haven't seen them before sdsu is not a bad football team

This comparison doesn't work ... Stan. is a good 1-A team, as others have mentioned

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 12:44 PM
I like how you call yourself a gopher fan after reading some of your post you not fan your someone who like to bitch about a team 99 persent of ur post are garbage

I like how you didn't debate what he said.......

GoldenHerbs
11-14-2009, 12:46 PM
AA-Team < Division 1 Team. This is unexceptable. To be owned by both Dakota teams is very sad. Lets pull this one off boys.

ncgo4
11-14-2009, 12:48 PM
I've been a consistent Brewster supporter on this board. However, the inability to be into the last half of the 4th quarter and not score a single touchdown against a team from South Dakota? That has nothing at all to do with talent and recruiting. We have been plain and simply out coached in every aspect of the game. Offensive, defensive and special teams.

Lack of coaching ability is undeniable when the JV beats the Varsity.

JackiO
11-14-2009, 12:49 PM
I've been a consistent Brewster supporter on this board. However, the inability to be into the last half of the 4th quarter and not score a single touchdown against a team from South Dakota? That has nothing at all to do with talent and recruiting. We have been plain and simply out coached in every aspect of the game. Offensive, defensive and special teams.

Lack of coaching ability is undeniable when the JV beats the Varsity.

I love his recruiting...but when you can't coach the talent you bring in what is the point?

theTurning
11-14-2009, 12:51 PM
I'm not sticking up for him but everyone need to relax a little it's not like brew came in here and took over a top ranked football team he was handed the keys to the titanic give him a damn shot there's not many people that could take this team and in 3 years be contending for a championship

do you think he should be extended?

frozengopher
11-14-2009, 12:52 PM
I've been a consistent Brewster supporter on this board. However, the inability to be into the last half of the 4th quarter and not score a single touchdown against a team from South Dakota? That has nothing at all to do with talent and recruiting. We have been plain and simply out coached in every aspect of the game. Offensive, defensive and special teams.

Lack of coaching ability is undeniable when the JV beats the Varsity.

Hit that one on the head. I love Brew, but this seriously bothers me. Still, I don't want to see another fire/hire and three more years of reestablishing our identity. We've been dragged through the mud enough already.

jordanjo
11-14-2009, 12:56 PM
I'm not sticking up for him but everyone need to relax a little it's not like brew came in here and took over a top ranked football team he was handed the keys to the titanic give him a damn shot there's not many people that could take this team and in 3 years be contending for a championship

now do you change your mind after watching back to back timeouts and an incomplete pass when they had 3 minutes to figure something out...all brewster.

Bye Bye

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 12:57 PM
Threadstarter is looking more and more hawkeye.......

JackiO
11-14-2009, 12:58 PM
16-13!!!!!! Give'en the old mock roar!

Lol. Really though, you would think that this team would be able to execute by now. Very disheartening. Oh wait! kick to the 40!!!! ouch.

jrb27
11-14-2009, 01:01 PM
Damn Carter droped the int. Fire brew

MRJ
11-14-2009, 01:02 PM
My biggest beef with Brewster at this point is the fact that he keeps telling us what a great job everyone associated with his team is doing. Newsflash: They're not. But the way Brew talks about them, you'd think we were on the cusp of football utopia.

The bottom line is this: Brew's team hasn't delivered. Will it eventually? Maybe. But at this point, I can't blame people for starting to question things, especially when all we hear about week-after-week is what a good job the players are doing, how hard they are working, how the staff is doing a tremendous job and how close we are to being a Big Ten contender only to back up that talk by looking completely inept for stretches during every game.

tpbeight
11-14-2009, 01:09 PM
Stop trying to defend Brewster. These last 2 games are indefensible. Losing to a crappy Illinois team at home followed by an embarassing performance against an FCS team at home. Show me the progress. She me where there's hope. What has Brewster done in his brief tenure to inspire confidence? Do we see a brighter tommorow? Will the Gophers be a better team next year? I don't see it.

I hate starting over. It sucks and i don't like the idea of doing it, but........you have to asses Brewster and figure out what's best for the program. I don't want to see another year like this one, and i think it's time to admit that Brewster isn't the guy and move on.

FireCosgroveGuy
11-14-2009, 01:13 PM
In three years we should be handling a d1-AA team. Wow you are intelligent aren't you?

No doubt.

Like him or not, Mason's teams could run all over teams like this and would physically dominate them.

The whole team has a schizophrenic personality. Brewster doesn't know whether he wants a spread or pro style, Fitch doesn't know whether he wants to be a passing team or running team, and within that he doesn't know whether he wants to be a short passing or deep ball team.

The team is run by morons.

balds
11-14-2009, 01:17 PM
In Mason's last year NDSU missed a field goal in the final seconds that would have won it. I beleive we escaped with a 12-10 win, or some score very similar.

jordanjo
11-14-2009, 01:19 PM
Brewster has brought in a lot of recruits, but none are panning out. He has been recruiting players but not a big ten identity. Cant he find a big bruising back like every other successful team has? These players just arent mixing well.

Doogie
11-14-2009, 01:20 PM
In Mason's last year NDSU missed a field goal in the final seconds that would have won it. I beleive we escaped with a 12-10 win, or some score very similar.

That NDSU team, with 10 or so guys who got NFL tryouts/found their way onto a practice squad, was a ton better than this SDSU team.

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 01:21 PM
In Mason's last year NDSU missed a field goal in the final seconds that would have won it. I beleive we escaped with a 12-10 win, or some score very similar.

We were also 2-5 heading into that game against a 6-0 team that was #1 in "FCS"........

WAGopher
11-14-2009, 01:22 PM
Hes some 35 yearold living in his mom attic with nothing better to do

You mean this is a bad thing? Hmmmhhh, Hmmmmhhh (Clearing throat to yell downstairs).
Mom! Mom! Some guy on GopherHole says I have to move!!

bigtenchamps1899
11-14-2009, 01:23 PM
That NDSU team, with 10 or so guys who got NFL tryouts/found their way onto a practice squad, was a ton better than this SDSU team.

how can you possibly make that call?

just a great college football mind?

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 01:26 PM
how can you possibly make that call?

just a great college football mind?

Because when we played NDSU they (ndsu) looked like a good team on the field (i still have the game on tape), SDSU looked like a high school team today and yet were 1 play away from beating us.......

FargoBison
11-14-2009, 01:39 PM
Because when we played NDSU they (ndsu) looked like a good team on the field (i still have the game on tape), SDSU looked like a high school team today and yet were 1 play away from beating us.......

The Bison had a QB, SDSU not so much. Steve Walker was a finalist for I-AA offensive player of year in 2006. SDSU does have a nice defense though, Batten their DE will probably be drafted

That game also wasn't half as ugly as whatever I was watching today. For a while it seemed like neither team wanted to win the game.

jovs
11-14-2009, 01:39 PM
It's becomming pretty obvious that Brewster is a failed experiment. Weber has not developed at all in Brewsters tenure, the offensive line has regressed. They don't have a Big Ten running back.

Did he get a four year contract initially. If he did I would let the contract run out and determine his status as next year progresses. I would say he is 0-3 in his career as far as the season's go.

GortonsFisherman011
11-14-2009, 01:41 PM
I've never seen a more frustrating triad of football personnel than Brewster, Fisch and Weber.

GO4INLALALAND
11-14-2009, 01:43 PM
I love his recruiting...but when you can't coach the talent you bring in what is the point?

+1

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 01:50 PM
The Bison had a QB, SDSU not so much. Steve Walker was a finalist for I-AA offensive player of year in 2006. SDSU does have a nice defense though, Batten their DE will probably be drafted

That game also wasn't half as ugly as whatever I was watching today. For a while it seemed like neither team wanted to win the game.

That's what I'm saying...the 2006 game against NDSU was much different. NDSU came to play and moved the ball nearly at will at times...the Gophers gameplan was poorly executed and I'm sure Mason overlooked NDSU and it almost cost him his job. The SDSU team I seen today was sloppy and didn't impress me at all & yet we played just as sloppy if not sloppier.......

tpbeight
11-14-2009, 01:55 PM
You can't let Brewster's contract run out. How does he recruit under that scenario? You have to determine at the end of this season if he's the guy you want to move into the future with. If he's not (he's not) you have to fire him now and turn the page.

Doogie
11-14-2009, 02:00 PM
how can you possibly make that call?

just a great college football mind?

As always, it's my opinion, and we can certainly debate it.

JackiO
11-14-2009, 02:12 PM
Are You Drunk? Brewster's recruits are the only reason we held onto this game (Carter, Wilhite, Cooper) masons recruits tried to lose (Weber). saying his recruits are not panning out is funny.

Most of this team is all Mason's recruits. Cooper and Wilhite do not start, nor does Carter unless he is forced into the role. I would say most of his recruits haven't really helped this team yet.

bankonit
11-14-2009, 02:22 PM
really? the receivers are all his recruits, the Kick returner and Punt Returner are his recruits, Kirksey and Mckinley who have played roles in winning games are his recruits. Of course a lot of starters are masons but only because Brewsters recruits are sophomores and freshmen. Brewsters recruits are the only reason we have won games

JackiO
11-14-2009, 02:28 PM
really? the receivers are all his recruits, the Kick returner and Punt Returner are his recruits, Kirksey and Mckinley who have played roles in winning games are his recruits. Of course a lot of starters are masons but only because Brewsters recruits are sophomores and freshmen. Brewsters recruits are the only reason we have won games

Brewster's receivers do nothing for this team. His defensive backs have COST us how many games now because they can't cover or tackle? The best players on our defense are mason's players. Small, Brown, Triplett and Campbell (sp). Tow-Arnett, our best offensive player is Mason's recruit. Pretty simple. I'll give you stoudamire but generally you want your best difference makers playing every down. Stoudamire is not an effective receiver yet; he is the king of dropped balls.

Maroon
11-14-2009, 02:28 PM
I've never seen a more frustrating triad of football personnel than Brewster, Fisch and Weber.

This guy gets it!

MGGopher
11-14-2009, 02:47 PM
Brewster's receivers do nothing for this team. His defensive backs have COST us how many games now because they can't cover or tackle? The best players on our defense are mason's players. Small, Brown, Triplett and Campbell (sp). Tow-Arnett, our best offensive player is Mason's recruit. Pretty simple. I'll give you stoudamire but generally you want your best difference makers playing every down. Stoudamire is not an effective receiver yet; he is the king of dropped balls.

I appreciate your post, but Brewster's recruits are mainly sophomores, redshirt freshmen, and true freshmen. Why wouldn't seniors be expected to contribute more than those players? Give it a couple years and then let's compare the Brewster seniors/juniors (Maresh, Tinsley, Wilhite, Carter, Cooper, Edwards, Stoudemire, Gray, McKnight, Whaley, Hageman...many more) to the above named players. BTW, I'd actually add that many of our best defensive players are already Brewster recruits: Lawrence, McKinley, Cooper...even Small signed after Brewster was hired, I believe.

gophermanic
11-14-2009, 02:53 PM
I appreciate your post, but Brewster's recruits are mainly sophomores, redshirt freshmen, and true freshmen. Why wouldn't seniors be expected to contribute more than those players? Give it a couple years and then let's compare the Brewster seniors/juniors (Maresh, Tinsley, Wilhite, Carter, Cooper, Edwards, Stoudemire, Gray, McKnight, Whaley, Hageman...many more) to the above named players. BTW, I'd actually add that many of our best defensive players are already Brewster recruits: Lawrence, McKinley, Cooper...even Small signed after Brewster was hired, I believe.




You could have the 85' bears talent, but if you cant prepare them and put them in the right spots to succeed, it does not matter. Brew and Fisch cannot do that.

magpie
11-14-2009, 06:57 PM
Mason was 10-3 his 3rd year. Brewster should at least be 7-5.

thailleagle
11-14-2009, 06:58 PM
Mason was 10-3 his 3rd year. Brewster should at least be 7-5.

Mason was 8-4 his 3rd year, you're thinking of his 7th.......

WHB Brewer
11-14-2009, 07:47 PM
I appreciate your post, but Brewster's recruits are mainly sophomores, redshirt freshmen, and true freshmen. Why wouldn't seniors be expected to contribute more than those players? Give it a couple years and then let's compare the Brewster seniors/juniors (Maresh, Tinsley, Wilhite, Carter, Cooper, Edwards, Stoudemire, Gray, McKnight, Whaley, Hageman...many more) to the above named players. BTW, I'd actually add that many of our best defensive players are already Brewster recruits: Lawrence, McKinley, Cooper...even Small signed after Brewster was hired, I believe.


Where are all these "prize" recruits? 9 seniors on D, most are Mason's players. The WRs can't catch. The O-line is attrocious. He won't play Gray for some reason. With all this talent he claims to have brought in the past 2 years, why aren't they playing? The coaches job is to play the best guys and win games. If the young guys don't play, why would they continue to come? Why should a player like Gray stay?

RodentRampage
11-14-2009, 11:07 PM
His firing may be inevitable. It may just be a question of this year or next year. There just seems to be a growing lack of faith in the Gophers and in Brewster. The team seems to be in disarray. I think the spread was too radical a change in the offense. A second radical change to a pro-style offense this year didn't help. If we have to make radical changes next year, a new coach may be part of the change.

Halsey Hall
11-14-2009, 11:35 PM
Hey, we brought in Davis and we're going to pound the rock. What's that? You need a running back to pound with? Oh.

Maturi will extend Brew first, then fire his ass. Way to go, Joel.

gopher pops
11-15-2009, 07:30 AM
before this season started many of the experts predicted Minnesota would have a better team but a worst record than last year...
many experts had Minnesota only winning 5 games
many experts predicted Minnesota would not be bowl eligible
many experts have stated that moving from the spread to a pro style offense would be painful but necessary ..

Last night the experts said they were wrong and surprised Minnesota was bowl eligible... especially since

Michigan is not
Illinois is not
Indiana is not
Purdue is not
wonder what the board would have looked like if Minnesota had lost this game?

JackiO
11-15-2009, 09:41 AM
before this season started many of the experts predicted Minnesota would have a better team but a worst record than last year...
many experts had Minnesota only winning 5 games
many experts predicted Minnesota would not be bowl eligible
many experts have stated that moving from the spread to a pro style offense would be painful but necessary ..

Last night the experts said they were wrong and surprised Minnesota was bowl eligible... especially since

Michigan is not
Illinois is not
Indiana is not
Purdue is not
wonder what the board would have looked like if Minnesota had lost this game?

I'm sorry, but the little Caesars pizza bowl doesn't count. I can't believe people keep saying, well at least we are "bowl eligible" now. Are you kidding me? The pizza bowl? Might as well be the toilet bowl because it will generate zero interest from our fan base.

And Minnesota actually has a worse team this year than we had last year....

We should have won 4 games this year. Michigan State got royally screwed when they called a blocking the kicker and Syracuse totally choked at the end of the game. If you look at our year, we were horrendous through and through. Oh have you checked the statistics lately?

Worst Defense in the Big ten.
Worst Offense in the Big ten.

Yea, we made some BIG improvements this year.

60 Cent
11-15-2009, 10:28 AM
Mason was 8-4 his 3rd year, you're thinking of his 7th.......

Mason also lost those 4 games by a combined 15 points...the '99 team (which was Wacker's seniors) was probably his best overall outfit.

Halsey Hall
11-15-2009, 10:40 AM
With 3 years of Brew's recruiting and we didn't blow anybody out this year. Most of the wins were gifts. And still we have Brew talking crap

magpie
11-15-2009, 12:19 PM
You're right, he was 8-4... but that's still better than Brewster has done. And I'm not a Mason supporter.

PlayHosea
11-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Brewster's the head coach, so he takes the lion's share of the blame. When you have 3 1st and goal situations and you come away with 9 points, that's on your line, QB and offensive coordinator.

RedPoo
11-15-2009, 12:59 PM
With 3 years of Brew's recruiting and we didn't blow anybody out this year. Most of the wins were gifts. And still we have Brew talking crap


Brewster's only had 2 recruiting classes thus far. He wasn't hired until 3 weeks before signing day in 2007.

GopherGod
11-15-2009, 01:10 PM
Brewster's only had 2 recruiting classes thus far. He wasn't hired until 3 weeks before signing day in 2007.

And he said he inherited good talent and was fortunate that this was not a rebuilding job, his words.

RedPoo
11-15-2009, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry, but the little Caesars pizza bowl doesn't count. I can't believe people keep saying, well at least we are "bowl eligible" now. Are you kidding me? The pizza bowl? Might as well be the toilet bowl because it will generate zero interest from our fan base.


Unless Michigan beats OSU, the worst bowl we could draw is the Insight (again).

And of course, the Little Ceasars bowl doesn't count, because you don't care.

Khaliq
11-15-2009, 01:19 PM
It's a good thing Insight's prices are terrible now, otherwise having to do business with them would give me PTSD flashbacks.

RedPoo
11-15-2009, 01:19 PM
And he said he inherited good talent and was fortunate that this was not a rebuilding job, his words.

That doesn't change the fact that he's only had 2 recruiting classes.

gopher pops
11-15-2009, 04:05 PM
And he said he inherited good talent and was fortunate that this was not a rebuilding job, his words.

Brewster looks at the cup half full not half empty..... he is optimistic about everything..... he said he inherited good talent because he had to coach those kids that were left...

so either he is an optimist are a snake oil salesman.... you can not twist and turn phrases to fit whatever point you are trying to make at the time... be consistent.....

50PoundHead
11-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Hey gopher pops, nice play by D.L. yesterday!

gopher pops
11-16-2009, 06:28 AM
Hey gopher pops, nice play by D.L. yesterday!

my son is on offense

minngg
11-16-2009, 09:46 AM
With 3 years of Brew's recruiting and we didn't blow anybody out this year. Most of the wins were gifts. And still we have Brew talking crap

Three years? You cannot be serious? If you are, then you have lost all credibility.

monk10
11-16-2009, 10:03 AM
my son is on offense

I hope he is in his first yea and gets 4+ years to learn the same offense :). One of the best chances for him to be successful. Of course, that assumes the new pro-style fits his abilities. :p

gopher pops
11-16-2009, 05:58 PM
Hey gopher pops, nice play by D.L. yesterday!

my son plays on the offensive line so please stop