View Full Version : Odds Brewster is our coach next year = 1:1
Studwell55
10-24-2009, 01:53 PM
100% chance Brewster is our coach.
Not 50%, not 75%, not 99%.
100%.
Let's get this on the record, knuckleheads.
GO4INLALALAND
10-24-2009, 01:56 PM
100% chance Brewster is our coach.
Not 50%, not 75%, not 99%.
100%.
Let's get this on the record, knuckleheads.
Exactly. Enough with the firing of Brewster; it is not going to happen. However, Brewster better get his head out of his butt and realize that Gray should be starting. If he starts Weber next week against MSU we will lose, without question and I will be pissed at Brewster. He needs to end his love affair with Weber. Gray gives this team an added dimension.
Agreed...he is not going anywhere.
frozengopher
10-24-2009, 01:58 PM
Once again, the idiots with 10 posts come out of the woodwork and put this board in a tizzy. There is no way Brew won't be coach until we completely fail on expectations. I would begin to worry if we pull an L against Illinois, though.
anonymous
10-24-2009, 02:00 PM
Studwell, I think he will be the coach. Can't imagine Maturi pulling the plug. But I also think you're a bit premature in that strong of a prediction.
But if they lose to both Sparty and the Illini, then all bets are off.
GortonsFisherman011
10-24-2009, 02:00 PM
I would begin to worry if we pull an L against Illinois, though.
Don't for one second think that this isn't a possibility.
While I have been very much discouraged by the play of the Gophers the last 2 weeks, I have no doubt that Brew will be back. I think that they really have to give the guy a legitimate chance to succeed (which IMO is when he's got 4-5 complete recruiting classes under his belt).
GoldenHerbs
10-24-2009, 02:08 PM
As fed up with this team as I am, I believe Brew will be back next year.
GortonsFisherman011
10-24-2009, 02:11 PM
Hey, we gave Jim Wacker 5 seasons before firing him. It seems like Brewster is a clone of Wacker, actually.
Gopherprof
10-24-2009, 02:11 PM
Even if you think Brewster is an awful coach, it's really hard to see Maturi pulling the plug on a guy that he hired within 3 seasons.
I'm glad this thread was made. Perspective people.
GO4INLALALAND
10-24-2009, 02:14 PM
The way that Gray played, he may be the reason Brewster keeps his job. He looked good today, despite the fact that he was playing against OSU's second string D. It was nice to see a qb scan the field for an open receiver. Weber locks onto a receiver and never takes his eyes off of him. Weber is very easy to defend against because of that.
alphagopher
10-24-2009, 02:46 PM
Don't diminish what gray did today--osu's 2nd team is every bit as good and likely better than our first teamers-he stepped in and took care of business, in a tough environment. He must be our starter from here on out if we hope to have any shot at yet another, mediocre, 6-6 season at a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#ty bowl game-wow, we really aim for the stars, don't we?!
Monty519
10-24-2009, 02:53 PM
LOL @ firing Brewster. That is not how you build a program at all. You have to give coaches REAL time to build it up. Sometimes, even 4 or 5 years isn't enough, though in this case I think it is. But this isn't the NFL, you can't just keep firing a coach cause you don't get the results you want every three years. College football is a different animal. Successful programs aren't hiring and firing coaches every few years because there are some struggles in there.
akgopher
10-24-2009, 02:58 PM
Would it disappoint any regents or even Maturi and Bruinicks if someone within the program stepped forward with some Littlejohn material?
Bronko Nagurski Gopher
10-24-2009, 03:01 PM
Would it disappoint any regents or even Maturi and Bruinicks if someone within the program stepped forward with some Littlejohn material?
sorry, but that is just a lame assertion to make.
Maroon
10-24-2009, 05:24 PM
The other thing to remember here is that there have been some off-field incidences that could also play a role in Brewster's ouster. With the players getting in trouble and Twitter gate and KFAN gate, it all adds up. Especially if you throw in a 5-7 record.
Gopherprof
10-24-2009, 05:39 PM
The other thing to remember here is that there have been some off-field incidences that could also play a role in Brewster's ouster. With the players getting in trouble and Twitter gate and KFAN gate, it all adds up. Especially if you throw in a 5-7 record.
Nobody gives a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# about KFAN. Nobody.
And yes, it would be nice if college athletes didn't have problems with the law, but they do. Everywhere.
koppco1
10-24-2009, 05:47 PM
Nobody gives a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# about KFAN. Nobody.
And yes, it would be nice if college athletes didn't have problems with the law, but they do. Everywhere.
Agreed. Once again, there is NO WAY Brew is not our coach next year. You gas a coach after 3 years and this job is then impossible to fill with almost any average to good coach. I also think it is likely he gets an extension (assuming he beats Illinois and SDSU and is competitive or beats MSU). He wins at Iowa and an extension is in the bank for him.
alpinegopher
10-24-2009, 05:51 PM
Not going to happen.
Can anyone imagine how difficult it'd be to hire a new coach with credibility if Brewster were fired this year?
Guess I was watching too much tv while typing and koppco beat me to the point.
Maroon
10-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Agreed. Once again, there is NO WAY Brew is not our coach next year. You gas a coach after 3 years and this job is then impossible to fill with almost any average to good coach. I also think it is likely he gets an extension (assuming he beats Illinois and SDSU and is competitive or beats MSU). He wins at Iowa and an extension is in the bank for him.
It's foolish to talk in absolutes.
go 31
10-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Right AlpineGopher, to be accepted in the AD ranks, Maturi has to give Brewster one more year. Even if we win a couple more this year, with no more than mediocrity next year, the bet is 99:1 to replace.
Maroon
10-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Nobody gives a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# about KFAN. Nobody.
And yes, it would be nice if college athletes didn't have problems with the law, but they do. Everywhere.
Maturi cares when Brewster makes him look like an idiot.
Dr.Don
10-24-2009, 06:06 PM
Absolutely, Maroon.
bankonit
10-24-2009, 06:35 PM
Hey, we gave Jim Wacker 5 seasons before firing him. It seems like Brewster is a clone of Wacker, actually.
Brewster is more of a clone of Mack Brown, Mike Shanahan, and Marty Schottenheimer. With some Ron Zook. Why do people in Minnesota hate anybody that is positive?
Gopherprof
10-24-2009, 06:47 PM
Maturi cares when Brewster makes him look like an idiot.
Again, nobody in administration is going to take into consideration an AM radio station when considering whether or not to fire a coach.
I would bet that, at best, 2% of the Gophers fan base listens to KFAN and is even aware of the 'situation'. It's a total non-issue except among the most rabid of the fan-base.
Bronko Nagurski Gopher
10-24-2009, 06:50 PM
The other thing to remember here is that there have been some off-field incidences that could also play a role in Brewster's ouster. With the players getting in trouble and Twitter gate and KFAN gate, it all adds up. Especially if you throw in a 5-7 record.
wow! you have to be joking right? who in the hell calls that minor crap twitter gate and kfan gate except you, d-bag dan barreiro and some becky or hogeye trolls? :rolleyes:
let's see here:
the minor scuffle involving tinsley was nothing to write home about. right or wrong that kind of stuff takes place (by athletes & non-athletes) at campuses all over the country. it was not a big deal. take a look at iowa (close to 30 players arrested in one off season) if you want to see a team full of law-breaking goons.
second, you think two small things that couldn't have been blown more out of proportion by the local media (taking a shot at fat pat reusse and calling out the circle jerk j-bags at kfan for taking unnecessary shots at the program) are going to have any impact on brewster keeping his job? they won't. that was nothing more than trumped up b.s. by a negative local media because the object of the justified criticism happened to be them.
please get a clue!
Maroon
10-24-2009, 06:50 PM
Again, nobody in administration is going to take into consideration an AM radio station when considering whether or not to fire a coach.
I would bet that, at best, 2% of the Gophers fan base listens to KFAN and is even aware of the 'situation'. It's a total non-issue except among the most rabid of the fan-base.
Except it's not about KFAN. It's about Brewster putting Maturi and the program in a difficult and embarrassing situation. It's about Brewster lying and then Maturi going on record with something that wasn't true because he believed what Brewster said. That's the issue.
Bronko Nagurski Gopher
10-24-2009, 06:51 PM
Again, nobody in administration is going to take into consideration an AM radio station when considering whether or not to fire a coach.
I would bet that, at best, 2% of the Gophers fan base listens to KFAN and is even aware of the 'situation'. It's a total non-issue except among the most rabid of the fan-base.
exactly!
Bronko Nagurski Gopher
10-24-2009, 06:58 PM
Except it's not about KFAN. It's about Brewster putting Maturi and the program in a difficult and embarrassing situation. It's about Brewster lying and then Maturi going on record with someone that wasn't true because he believed what Brewster said. That's the issue.
you sure about that? you just said in your other posts that it was all about what a lame ass AM station (kfan) thinks. btw - that was not a difficult situation for anyone other than the jerks over at kfan who were finally called out publicly for their overly-negative b.s.
another thing. your "version" of the supposed chain events sounds an awful lot like the b.s. that dan d-bag barrerio threw out there to try and cover kfan's sorry ass at the end of the day. not sure i am going to go with that overtly one-sided view of things.
the u of m communications dept. and the coaching staff didn't lie to anyone as you are insinuating. kfan.....yes kfan......chose to make an issue out of something that wasn't even there.
koppco1
10-24-2009, 07:34 PM
It's foolish to talk in absolutes.
Thanks for the advice o wise one. This coming from the person who thinks what happened with KFAN even registers a blip.
Maroon
10-24-2009, 07:50 PM
Thanks for the advice o wise one. This coming from the person who thinks what happened with KFAN even registers a blip.
You guys just don't get it, do you? Brewster and the communications guy who was doing what Brewster told him to do told Maturi that they didn't say that to KFAN. So Maturi believes them and goes out and says that none of what KFAN is alleging is true. So then KFAN goes out and reads the emails that prove that Brewster's communications guy did, in fact, say exactly what KFAN said they did. So they were caught in a lie. A lie that Maturi believed. And then got made to look like a fool because he believed them and went on record with it.
GoldInDirt
10-24-2009, 08:01 PM
Hey, we gave Jim Wacker 5 seasons before firing him. It seems like Brewster is a clone of Wacker, actually.
Gortons, did you watch the gophers when Wacker was head coach. His OVERALL wins for his 5 seasons was 2, 4, 3, 3, 4. His total Big tens wins 2, 3, 1, 1, 1. Please stop comparing Brewster to Wacker.
In Mason's last six years (years five through 10) he had a winning big ten record - twice. I guarantee you that Brewster will have a better Big 10 record then Mason.
Khaliq
10-24-2009, 08:35 PM
Agreed. Once again, there is NO WAY Brew is not our coach next year. You gas a coach after 3 years and this job is then impossible to fill with almost any average to good coach. I also think it is likely he gets an extension (assuming he beats Illinois and SDSU and is competitive or beats MSU). He wins at Iowa and an extension is in the bank for him.An extension? Good lord. I agree it's too early to talk about firing him but extending him? No way.
dcboe
10-24-2009, 08:46 PM
Brew is our coach. He is building a program (TBD). We are maybe 1 loss (WI) too many. Did any one really think we would beat PSU & OSU back to back on the road? Common people. RELAX and support your team!!
GopherBeef
10-24-2009, 08:47 PM
Gortons, did you watch the gophers when Wacker was head coach. His OVERALL wins for his 5 seasons was 2, 4, 3, 3, 4. His total Big tens wins 2, 3, 1, 1, 1. Please stop comparing Brewster to Wacker.
In Mason's last six years (years five through 10) he had a winning big ten record - twice. I guarantee you that Brewster will have a better Big 10 record then Mason.
Thank you very much for posting this. I was just looking up this info for a similar post.
I know some will say that Brew came into a much better situation than Wacker did, but until his final year Gutekunst-Wacker's predecessor- was usually a middle of the pack, around 0.500 Big Ten coach-much like Mase. That is what Wacker inherited, and subsequently was never better than 4 wins and 3 Big Ten wins.
Handsome Pete
10-24-2009, 08:47 PM
100% chance Brewster is our coach.
Not 50%, not 75%, not 99%.
100%.
Let's get this on the record, knuckleheads.
This is true, but maybe a bigger question is the status of his contract extension? I suspect this is hampering recruiting a bit (along with the bad losses). Will Brewster get an extension when he is performing at a level so obviously below the standards of a major college coach?
Bronko Nagurski Gopher
10-24-2009, 08:49 PM
This is true, but maybe a bigger question is the status of his contract extension? I suspect this is hampering recruiting a bit (along with the bad losses). Will Brewster get an extension when he is performing at a level so obviously below the standards of a major college coach?
huh?! :rolleyes:
Izatys98
10-24-2009, 10:56 PM
It's been a long time since I posted. Someone will look up my previous posts and say "the troll has returned" so I won't rehash my position on Brewster that I've had since day one. Unfortunately I have to agree with Studwell. We've got a coach working under contract for peanuts and Maturi has more concern about the bottom line than anything else. I'd be surprised if he didn't stand behind his guy for at least one more year. I seriously hope there's no consideration of an extension at this point...
Contrarian view for those who say it'd be impossible to bring in a legit coach IF they fired Brewster this year: I'd contend that it would show that the Administration is serious about turning the program around. The usual convention is that a "new" coach is graded seriously in the 3rd year. There hasn't been a heck of a lot to write home about in Brewster's third year...
Gopherprof
10-24-2009, 11:04 PM
The usual convention is that a "new" coach is graded seriously in the 3rd year. There hasn't been a heck of a lot to write home about in Brewster's third year...
I've heard that for the NFL. That seems early for college football. It's uncommon for a coach to be fired after 3 years. The Illinois AD just said he didn't think it would be fair to fire Zook after 5.
Gopherprof
10-24-2009, 11:05 PM
You guys just don't get it, do you? Brewster and the communications guy who was doing what Brewster told him to do told Maturi that they didn't say that to KFAN. So Maturi believes them and goes out and says that none of what KFAN is alleging is true. So then KFAN goes out and reads the emails that prove that Brewster's communications guy did, in fact, say exactly what KFAN said they did. So they were caught in a lie. A lie that Maturi believed. And then got made to look like a fool because he believed them and went on record with it.
For some reason my original response didn't post.
It's like a tree falling in the woods, if nobody hears, it doesn't matter. The % of people that are even aware of the "incident" is small. The % of people that care is much smaller. It's a total non-issue.
Izatys98
10-24-2009, 11:26 PM
Gophprof - pros versus college is a point taken. Even in college however, the third year is usually considered a measuring stick for how effect a coach has been in establishing an identity and bringing his initial recruits on the field on Saturdays. I acknowledge that because of the messed up hiring process he was put behind the 8-ball in year one, but we still don't have an identity as a team (one person's opinion) and we've seen some pretty atrocious outcomes already during Brewster's tenure.
With regards to the Illini comparison, I'm not sure it holds. Zook has a history as a head coach that they can at least grasp on to. Brewster is still a very much unproven commodity - as a game day head coach...
NewEngland_Gold
10-24-2009, 11:36 PM
because for the tribes of GN, firing Brew will likely result in yet another agonizing 3-5 years of wandering aimlessly in the desert of program "rebuilding" .
Izatys98
10-25-2009, 12:06 AM
because for the tribes of GN, firing Brew will likely result in yet another agonizing 3-5 years of wandering aimlessly in the desert of program "rebuilding" .
Assume you mean "tribes of GM"? I'd be willing to agree with you if I didn't think we're in for 3-5 years of wandering regardless due to the revolving coaching philosophy door that we've had thus far...
SelectionSunday
10-25-2009, 02:15 AM
"Can anyone imagine how difficult it'd be to hire a new coach with credibility if Brewster were fired this year?"
For the record, I don't think Brew will or should be fired (only maybe if he loses to both Illinois and SDSU), but it would not be difficult at all to hire a new coach. Brand-spanking new stadium in only its second season, Big 10 program, etc. Snicker if if you want about the strength of Big 10 football right now, but there are only 11 jobs of that nature. There would plenty of capable suitors, just have to pick the right one, i.e. an Alvarez, Ferentz, etc. The Big 10 is still the Big 10, and who heard of those two guys before they turned Wisconsin and Iowa (schools similar to the U) into winners?
Maroon
10-25-2009, 07:13 AM
For some reason my original response didn't post.
It's like a tree falling in the woods, if nobody hears, it doesn't matter. The % of people that are even aware of the "incident" is small. The % of people that care is much smaller. It's a total non-issue.
Then I wonder why Maturi is so P.O.'d
Once again, the idiots with 10 posts come out of the woodwork and put this board in a tizzy. There is no way Brew won't be coach until we completely fail on expectations. I would begin to worry if we pull an L against Illinois, though.
I doubt they have a chance against Michigan State. The Illinois game is important. He'll come back next year for sure but if they go 2-6 this year he'll have no room for error next year. Maturi can't waist the new stadium on failure.
minngg
10-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Other than birdies, who really has the inside scoop on Brewster/Maturi relationship? The Dunbar thing was bad for Maturi, I know, but the KFAN thing? C'mon. If anyone really has inside information on their relationship, please share.
Schnoodler
10-26-2009, 04:28 PM
I love all these people that think they know what Maturi is thinking. You probably don't even know what your wife is thinking. Which is why you're probably still married.
If I'm Maturi, even if I really don't think Brewster is the solution here I don't fire him now. The exception would be if there was a Tubby type lurking. The reason you don't fire him is first of all it's just too early. He's actually doing fairly well from a historical perspective. But even if Maturi wants a change he waits, because Brewster is a good recruiter. Two more solid recruiting years and who ever walks in has a damn good team to start with. And in two more years maybe Brewster is winning, and you don't have to schill out the big bucks for a big name. There is very little down side in waiting the program out two more years.
wait!what?
10-26-2009, 04:56 PM
U of M football has been either a coach killer or the last stop for coaches who ran out of HC options. Brew is going to get this thing turned around.
RedPoo
10-26-2009, 05:04 PM
... here would plenty of capable suitors, just have to pick the right one, i.e. an Alvarez, Ferentz, etc. The Big 10 is still the Big 10, and who heard of those two guys before they turned Wisconsin and Iowa (schools similar to the U) into winners?
I think the more pressing question would be, who would have guessed, in either of those two coaches' 3rd seasons, that either one was more than a mediocre coach for a perennial below-average Big 10 team?
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